Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

[Horribadger]

I guess they were really holding out hope that the Halloween Special would somehow turn things around.
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[Edgeymcedgename]

Rest in piss Velma

Roast in piss

 

[Chromeo]

I won't go into the cringe machinations of my own cartoon ideas right here and now, but I'd love to make a cartoon where a character has anxiety but there AREN'T realistic panic attacks and therapy-speak all the time. No more grounding scenes, no more slow motion/sounds fading/ears ringing nonsense. We don't need child characters talking like 30-something psych majors and everyone being super unproblematic and perfect at dealing with anxiety. Imagine how novel that'd be in current year, a character who freaks out but can get their shit together in under 20 minutes and kick ass in the end anyway.

 

[Space Police]

I want these as toys NOWWWWWWW

And how can I forget the Xabungle reference?

Also, CBC's Indigenous tax dollars are finally being useful: we have a new vehicle show that uses actual models, similar to Thomas. It's called Go Togo; unfortunately it's only available on CBC's website, so you'll need a Canada VPN:

 

[A Grey Cat]

Started re-watching happy tree friends out of nostalgia (yes htf is nostalgia now) and I really miss it. It's hard to belive people once called htf "dumb internet junk." Especially when you compare to zoomer culture on the internet now, like say skibidi toilet or whatever it is "these darn kids" are watching.

Htf, even it's first season looks like fucking looney tunes when compared to crap like skibidi toilet.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Started re-watching happy tree friends out of nostalgia (yes htf is nostalgia now) and I really miss it. It's hard to belive people once called htf "dumb internet junk." Especially when you compare to zoomer culture on the internet now, like say skibidi toilet or whatever it is "these darn kids" are watching.

Htf, even it's first season looks like fucking looney tunes when compared to crap like skibidi toilet.

You excited for the skibidi toilet movie adaptation?

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Does anyone miss this character style in cartoons?
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I don't know why, but I really like it. Maybe it's nostalgia for Curious George. This is like the evolution of the character artstyle in serious 80s cartoons, but with less detail and less QUALITY. Sadly, you don't get to see it much anymore because now all characters are either anime, CGI plastic, or CalArts blobs, and sadly, the only good shows I've been able to find that use this artstyle are Curious George and Stargate Infinity.

I liked it, more angular than anime and gritty but not overly so. Far better than the "uncanny valley anime" we have today.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

I won't go into the cringe machinations of my own cartoon ideas right here and now, but I'd love to make a cartoon where a character has anxiety but there AREN'T realistic panic attacks and therapy-speak all the time. No more grounding scenes, no more slow motion/sounds fading/ears ringing nonsense. We don't need child characters talking like 30-something psych majors and everyone being super unproblematic and perfect at dealing with anxiety. Imagine how novel that'd be in current year, a character who freaks out but can get their shit together in under 20 minutes and kick ass in the end anyway.

That's more or less the TV show Monk

 

[A Grey Cat]

You excited for the skibidi toilet movie adaptation?

Do I sound like someone who knows what skibidi toilet is?

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

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In case anyone is curious, here are some animations done by Swaybox, skip to 2:45 for two surprises...

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Also, obligatory...

Jason Todd

Is the crowbar going to make an appearance as well?

 

[Horribadger]

I won't go into the cringe machinations of my own cartoon ideas right here and now, but I'd love to make a cartoon where a character has anxiety but there AREN'T realistic panic attacks and therapy-speak all the time. No more grounding scenes, no more slow motion/sounds fading/ears ringing nonsense. We don't need child characters talking like 30-something psych majors and everyone being super unproblematic and perfect at dealing with anxiety. Imagine how novel that'd be in current year, a character who freaks out but can get their shit together in under 20 minutes and kick ass in the end anyway.

A) My desire is to have someone having a Realistic Panic Attack tm but it's played for laughs and you're supposed to laugh at their suffering
B) Share your autism, I like hearing people's ideas

 

[Chromeo]

B) Share your autism, I like hearing people's ideas

Probably the wrong thread so I'll just spoiler it so people can ignore this comment if they don't care.

Spoiler

My idea is a serialized show about this teenage mermaid, Sakana Sakamoto, whose hometown in Japan was destroyed by human pollution, uprooting her family to a completely new country where the show takes place. At her new school, Sakana is encouraged to process her grief through songwriting, but instead of writing blithe happy nonsense she writes these raw, aggressive songs that inspire two other music students to join her and form a band! They become best friends and call their group The Lub Glub Band, and the show follows them as they deal with teenager stuff and musician stuff! It's like Jem and the Holograms meets Fall Out Boy and it's all underwater and colorful and just super cool.
I don't have a lot drawn out for it, but I threw some colors on sketches I made at work of the main characters:

Sakana Sakamoto is the puffer in the middle, and her two bandmates are Shaquonder Moray (left) and Kipper Trout (right.)

While Sakana basically has PTSD and anxiety after surviving a natural disaster and being a fish out of water (har har,) a 20-minute episode doesn't have time to devote 3 minutes to a realistic panic attack. She's like Twilight Sparkle in early MLP, no matter how afraid she gets she's got the support of her friends and her community that helps her do whatever it is and rock the house by the end of the episode! I think it's way more fun for a show to actually be about its premise than just a 20 minute therapy session for the author tbh.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

B) Share your autism, I like hearing people's ideas

I've always wanted to expand on the ideas that Reticulon explored, I've been a big fan of how he does writing and animation. I know it sounds kinda stupid, but actually treating animation the same way people treat live action, as in taking the medium seriously, and treating it like its capable of telling mature stories (to be clear here, "adult sitcoms" or anything else that appeals to immature manchildren do not count) is such a breath of fresh air for me. I've always wanted to see his animation & writing style done with a proper budget put behind it for a feature-length film/TV series.

In terms of ideas, I have two, but there's nothing really concrete to them.

1) a Tom Clancy-style techno-thriller inspired by the Bojinka plot, except it's a little better planned. In terms of visuals, I'm thinking something like G.I. Joe's art style, but adapted for 3D. Nothing too complex in terms of themes/story arcs, I want to mainly focus on the action & the story beats with it.
2) a seemingly ordinary cartoon for Young adults and general audiences that slowly devolves into an all-out war movie, i.e., " Come and see." I'd like to explore a de-romanticized image of a modern Civil War and emphasize the sheer totality that ethnic conflict entails. In other words, the total opposite of what the movie "Civil War" was.

 

[Horribadger]

Probably the wrong thread so I'll just spoiler it so people can ignore this comment if they don't care.

Spoiler

My idea is a serialized show about this teenage mermaid, Sakana Sakamoto, whose hometown in Japan was destroyed by human pollution, uprooting her family to a completely new country where the show takes place. At her new school, Sakana is encouraged to process her grief through songwriting, but instead of writing blithe happy nonsense she writes these raw, aggressive songs that inspire two other music students to join her and form a band! They become best friends and call their group The Lub Glub Band, and the show follows them as they deal with teenager stuff and musician stuff! It's like Jem and the Holograms meets Fall Out Boy and it's all underwater and colorful and just super cool.
I don't have a lot drawn out for it, but I threw some colors on sketches I made at work of the main characters:
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Sakana Sakamoto is the puffer in the middle, and her two bandmates are Shaquonder Moray (left) and Kipper Trout (right.)

While Sakana basically has PTSD and anxiety after surviving a natural disaster and being a fish out of water (har har,) a 20-minute episode doesn't have time to devote 3 minutes to a realistic panic attack. She's like Twilight Sparkle in early MLP, no matter how afraid she gets she's got the support of her friends and her community that helps her do whatever it is and rock the house by the end of the episode! I think it's way more fun for a show to actually be about its premise than just a 20 minute therapy session for the author tbh.

This is pretty autistic, but I like the cut of your jib. You keep doing you man.
I'll also say that, I don't think reality-influenced anxiety/panic attacks are necessarily bad, it's the Realistic Panic Attack(tm) where it feels like a derailment into lecturing the audience about it that sucks.

I've always wanted to expand on the ideas that Reticulon explored, I've been a big fan of how he does writing and animation. I know it sounds kinda stupid, but actually treating animation the same way people treat live action, as in taking the medium seriously, and treating it like its capable of telling mature stories (to be clear here, "adult sitcoms" or anything else that appeals to immature manchildren do not count) is such a breath of fresh air for me. I've always wanted to see his animation & writing style done with a proper budget put behind it for a feature-length film/TV series.

In terms of ideas, I have two, but there's nothing really concrete to them.

1) a Tom Clancy-style techno-thriller inspired by the Bojinka plot, except it's a little better planned. In terms of visuals, I'm thinking something like G.I. Joe's art style, but adapted for 3D. Nothing too complex in terms of themes/story arcs, I want to mainly focus on the action & the story beats with it.
2) a seemingly ordinary cartoon for Young adults and general audiences that slowly devolves into an all-out war movie, i.e., " Come and see." I'd like to explore a de-romanticized image of a modern Civil War and emphasize the sheer totality that ethnic conflict entails. In other words, the total opposite of what the movie "Civil War" was.

That also sounds cool. Taking the medium seriously is a fairly untapped market, outside of anime. Kiwi animation studio when?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

God damn Twitter has garbage taste, they were gassing up Primos because of this clip and it's just ugly

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

God damn Twitter has garbage taste

In other news, the sky is blue

 

[ENDTOPII]

I'm going to drop an not so obscure, but somehow it goes under the radar. Lucky Luke



To spice this discussion up, let's take a look at the plot of "La Fiancée de Lucky Luke" (Lucky Luke's engagement/bride).

Located in the Wild West, the town of Purgatory is only inhabited by men. Leaving him go and disorder reigned there. The disappearance of the city also seems inevitable, as the absence of women prevents births and thus the renewal of generations. However, in the east of the country, dozens of women are not finding men. A handful of them then decide to go to Purgatory, in order to marry the inhabitants - Translated from the french Wikipedia

A childrens show depicting the "men not getting married = civilizational collapse" meme as the start of an episode is very thunk provoking to say the least, if we compare it to modern "cartoons".

Archive, can't find an english speaking version.

Spoiler: More versions

Swedish version

Local archive, just in case.

Any thoughts?

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

A childrens show depicting the "men not getting married = civilizational collapse" meme as the start of an episode is very thunk provoking to say the least, if we compare it to modern "cartoons".

Actually the premise is that both men and women are unhappy and incomplete without each other so they need to be brought together. The joke is on both genders and neither is shown in particularly bad or good light.

The women take on the uncomfortable and dangerous journey for the men and tons of the jokes are about the ladies struggling with the elements and their feminine stereotypical behavior. I haven't seen the movie version but I did own the comic growing up. It was one of my favorites Lucky Luke's because it was so silly and visually distinct.

 

[Lone Star]

God damn Twitter has garbage taste, they were gassing up Primos because of this clip and it's just ugly

Weren't they treating Primos like Satan incarnate just a few months ago?

 

[Super Malario]

Weren't they treating Primos like Satan incarnate just a few months ago?

Twitter niggas have the brain capacity of a fly, their attention only lasts for a day.