Sept 28 2024 - Chris and Flutter in Helsinki, Finland

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

Surely Chris isn’t generating that much money? I want a cursed Sonichu medallion as much as the next man but the price and the possibility of getting doxed if Chris or one of his tard wranglers has a bad day puts me off.

He’s not exactly a top streamer either?

He's probably making fuck-all off of the merch. My suspicion is that Caden's basically treating him as a cash lolcow with which to pay off the property and buy drugs, in part by way of the tugboat and in part by working him like a kid in a Chinese shoe factory through making trinkets. That's not to say that he has no income whatsoever, but rather that he keeps relatively little of what he has or receives.

That said, there's really no way of knowing. We can take some educated guesses at how much he receives for the tugboat, but the rest of the possible income sources are pretty opaque. If he's making one medallion a month or 100 per week, we just don't know.

FWIW, I'm gradually coming around to the idea that Flutter may be bankrolling a large (if not complete) chunk of the travel. Still not 100% certain on it, though, mainly because her background is still somewhat nebulous.

 

[merrybrandybuck]

It's a pretty neat thing, because many people in Europe regularly travel to work in another country and this means that they can just..go there, without any hassle.
Loads of Poles work summer jobs in Germany, for example.
Chris still needs a passport and can only stay for up to 90 days each time though.

That's not Shengen, that's EU freedom of movement. Ireland is not Shengen but if you're an EU citizen you have the right to live/work there(indefinitely). Conversely, if you have a Shengen visa as a non-EU citizen you may only travel to member states as a tourist for a limited time.

 

[King Kiwi]

When I was growing up, I always thought that other countries were like in the 1500s or 1600s with no technology or anything.

I basically thought that all countries in Germany or other places looked like Heidi or Pinocchio or something. Especially when my parents described it. To be honest, I always thought that if I left the United States I would be killed on sight.

Which I get with some places that's technically true but as I have found how modern everything in the world is I have lost interest somewhat in exploring the world.

Of course I wouldn't think Chris can enjoy something like authentic Finnish cuisine because he probably have to go to someone's home in order to have it.

And even then he might not be able to appreciate it.

 

[Rapier Ape]

When I was growing up, I always thought that other countries were like in the 1500s or 1600s with no technology or anything.

I basically thought that all countries in Germany or other places looked like Heidi or Pinocchio or something.

Was this just a self assessment or were you fed some goofy information as a kid or something?
I had sort weird ideas about euro countries because I spent a lot of time with my grandparents who were well old and Murika fuck yeah.
I remember them explaining that no one in Europe has any money or anything good because they're forced to "give it all to the government" and then it gets shared with all the lazy people etc.
Then follow ot up with a loaded question like would I like having to give all of my money to all the other kids in the neighborhood etc?

 

[Niall Meanwhile]

He's probably making fuck-all off of the merch. My suspicion is that Caden's basically treating him as a cash lolcow with which to pay off the property and buy drugs, in part by way of the tugboat and in part by working him like a kid in a Chinese shoe factory through making trinkets. That's not to say that he has no income whatsoever, but rather that he keeps relatively little of what he has or receives.

I believe this to be the case too. It's either an "old mining town" scenario where most of CWC's merch sales revenue goes straight back into Caden's pocket as payment for room and board, or (a bit less likely) a "child star" one where Caden or someone else from his camp tells Chris "we're taking care of your finances, but in the meantime, you want that Lego set or w/e? We'll get that for you" without any actual money ever passing through CWC's hands.

Especially when shopping malls have been a dying trend for decades now.

Chris is essentially a shopping mall, he was born in the 80s peaked from the 90s to the 2000s but as the 2010s rolled around people lost interest. He stopped being worth the effort and now only a few stragglers still drop in the see the decay before their very eyes.

Shopping mall mass death is pretty much a North American phenomenon. Sure they're not exactly in their prime in the rest of the Western world, but they're having some very dignified twilight years, so to speak. Your average suburban English mall still looks like a backdrop from a 2000s teen sitcom on any given weekend.

That's not Shengen, that's EU freedom of movement. Ireland is not Shengen but if you're an EU citizen you have the right to live/work there(indefinitely). Conversely, if you have a Shengen visa as a non-EU citizen you may only travel to member states as a tourist for a limited time.

This one's tricky. EEA ≠ EU ≠ Schengen area (which includes EEA countries but not the whole of the EU).
If you're an EEA citizen (this is EU plus Switzerland, Norway, and Iceland), it's like you said.
If you're a visitor from abroad, you can travel freely (without passing through customs or border control, that is) only within the Schengen area.
If you have a residence permit from an EU member state, you can freely travel within Schengen, but unlike EEA citizens, you only have the right to live and work in the country that issued your visa, even if your partner is an EEA citizen.
Not that either of those caveats would be of any concern to Chris, even if he gets to legally marry egg and somehow manages not to scare or piss her off for long enough to actually get Finnish citizenship through her.

 

[King Kiwi]

Was this just a self assessment or were you fed some goofy information as a kid or something?
I had sort weird ideas about euro countries because I spent a lot of time with my grandparents who were well old and Murika fuck yeah.
I remember them explaining that no one in Europe has any money or anything good because they're forced to "give it all to the government" and then it gets shared with all the lazy people etc.
Then follow ot up with a loaded question like would I like having to give all of my money to all the other kids in the neighborhood etc?

Silly kid logic I probably misinterpreted from snarky adults.

 

[FedPostalService]

It's a pretty neat thing, because many people in Europe regularly travel to work in another country and this means that they can just..go there, without any hassle.
Loads of Poles work summer jobs in Germany, for example.
Chris still needs a passport and can only stay for up to 90 days each time though.

It’s not that neat. It’s forces wages down in affluent European countries by having access to cheap pools of low skilled labour in the east and graduates in the south.

When the UK left the EU there was a decent bump in pay for low skilled jobs as companies couldn’t just import Poles anymore and a good bump in offices as you couldn’t just pick up graduates from Spain, Greece, and Italy which have good education systems but terrible youth employment.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Chris's still in Finland.

If this was in Virginia time, it would be posted at between 3:30 to 4:30 AM. In Finland's time, that's around 11:30 AM - 12:30 PM.
Chris's sleep schedule for all of post jail saga has been waking up at 11 AM and sleeping around 2 AM, therefore, the above.

Edit: Going into the comment itself reveals it was posted at 4:08 AM Virginia time. So yeah.

 

[King Kiwi]

Chris's still in Finland.
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If this was in Virginia time, it would be posted at between 3:30 to 4:30 AM. In Finland's time, that's around 11:30 AM - 12:30 PM.
Chris's sleep schedule for all of post jail saga has been waking up at 11 AM and sleeping around 2 AM, therefore, the above.

Edit: Going into the comment itself reveals it was posted at 4:08 AM Virginia time. So yeah.
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I fucking love Hasbro. 4ever.

Even today I still get excited over a yellow Camaro with black stripes.

If Chris is trying to hide his whereabouts, he's pretty pathetic.

But 3:30am is like 11:30am to me anyways.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

I already touched upon this ealrier on in the Flutter thread, but I thought it'd be good to post it here too.

The Normal location is important. Mall of Tripla had, at one point, two Normals. The store Chris was sighted at is almost certainly the second floor Normal. That one was being moved to the third floor at the time of the sighting, where it is now located today, which had opened on either the 2nd or the 4th of this month. The second floor Normal had a closing sale around that time as well.
Not that important, but if the picture doesn't match anywhere in the one store that's in operation right now, that's why.

 

[Glowie]

You can continue to collect Social Security abroad, of the SSDI type that Chris has, or normal Social Security

Put it simply: You cannot collect American SSI, any other form of income surpassing 500 €~ each month. Finnish equivalent of IRS will audit you and cut off gibs if you fail send in proper paperwork

Chris's still in Finland.
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If this was in Virginia time, it would be posted at between 3:30 to 4:30 AM. In Finland's time, that's around 11:30 AM - 12:30 PM.
Chris's sleep schedule for all of post jail saga has been waking up at 11 AM and sleeping around 2 AM, therefore, the above.

Edit: Going into the comment itself reveals it was posted at 4:08 AM Virginia time. So yeah.
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Can confirm at the time of writing it's 5:40 AM Finland time at time of writing (of this post) it's near midnight in Virginia. First thing Chris does is go on Twatter instead of doing something productive or healthy. Flutters fully enables Chris' delusions and unhealthy lifestyle. Flutters is essentially mommy wife who isn't going to say no to Christ incarnate.

 

[AnOminous]

Put it simply: You cannot collect American SSI, any other form of income surpassing 500 €~ each month. Finnish equivalent of IRS will audit you and cut off gibs if you fail send in proper paperwork

And Chris isn't on SSI, he's on SSDI.

 

[Glowie]

And Chris isn't on SSI, he's on SSDI.

Finnish considers it as another form of disability/welfare. He isn't applicable for gibs if he is getting benefits from another source eg US gubmint. Visa process is long and citizenship takes years.

Chris would have to renew his visa every so often, since he's outside EU he'll receive US disability until he gets living permits or citizenship, he can only receive disability from one country, not both.

Finnish IRS will check every bank account under Chris' name and look into the money traffic and the source of said money.
Chris is too retarded to do that and united SSDI considers that as undisclosed income or defrauding. Chris already avoided criminal record

Failure to disclose any kind of income or unentitled benefits is FRAUD in united States, same with Finland. Don't worry man unless Praetor tard wrangles Chris' finances, only one country has to suffer a welfare leech, you can keep him we have enough home grown retards, thank you.

 

[King Kiwi]

you can keep him we have enough home grown retards, thank you.

You sure? Well take Flutter for keeps and you can have a living legend.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Failure to disclose any kind of income or unentitled benefits is FRAUD in united States, same with Finland. Don't worry man unless Praetor tard wrangles Chris' finances, only one country has to suffer a welfare leech, you can keep him we have enough home grown retards, thank you.

Weens already reported Chris for that, pretty sure. Hell, they probbaly already reported him there for the Etsy store, conpletely forgetting that, as he's not earning revenue and doesn't officially work here, Caden does, he's not commiting a crime.

 

[Glowie]

Weens already reported Chris for that, pretty sure. Hell, they probbaly already reported him there for the Etsy store, conpletely forgetting that, as he's not earning revenue and doesn't officially work here, Caden does, he's not commiting a crime.

Nothing came of it since Chris isn't a recipient of many Finnish welfare gibs due to lack of visa, refugee status or citizenship. Chris is mooching off Flutters rich parents to get by

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Nothing came of it since Chris isn't a recipient of many Finnish welfare gibs due to lack of visa, refugee status or citizenship. Chris is mooching off Flutters rich parents to get by

Indeed.
I fucking hate Redditors. They always do the dumbest shit possible.

 

[PursuerJ]

Why has everybody just accepted these Finland sightings as legit? Especially the Normal picture, I don't think he looks like Chris, at least not undeniably. The other ones are really obscure. They could be Chris and Flutter but they could as well not be.

Is there some proof I'm missing? I haven't followed CWC since the he went to prison but this Finland connection piqued my interest.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Why has everybody just accepted these Finland sightings as legit? Especially the Normal picture, I don't think he looks like Chris, at least not undeniably. The other ones are really obscure. They could be Chris and Flutter but they could as well not be.

Is there some proof I'm missing? I haven't followed CWC since the he went to prison but this Finland connection piqued my interest.

I posted it all in the Flutter thread, but, TLDR, it answers a lot of questions we have had, explains his long absence from the internet between late March and May, lines up with everything we know, and is, frankly, way too funny to let it slide.
Ah, and Flutter's Finnish. Chris has obsessively learned Duolingo over the past year as well.

 

[PursuerJ]

I posted it all in the Flutter thread, but, TLDR, it answers a lot of questions we have had, explains his long absence from the internet between late March and May, lines up with everything we know, and is, frankly, way too funny to let it slide.
Ah, and Flutter's Finnish. Chris has obsessively learned Duolingo over the past year as well.

Yeah it would make sense, can't disagree with that. But these pictures aren't really solid proof. And I can't get over the one with the blue hoodie at Normal. I seriously doubt it's Chris.

First of all, the jawline. It is really well defined. I doubt a high angle shot could make THAT much of a difference, you don't see a hint of a double chin. Second, Chris has a nice flabby set of manboobs. This blue hoodie covers this persons possibly small boobs (if he even has any). He's wearing a bag over them so if it was Chris the bag would really put them on display. Third, I think the person in the picture looks younger than 40. I think it"s just some feminine dude.