Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Cedric_Eff]

He's been jacking himself off in Discord for hours making memes about how smart and invaluable he was to the Redot project.

Yeah I think the Redot people were in the right for kicking them out.

This isn’t coping anymore. This is full on sneeding.

 

[AnOminous]

Yeah I think the Redot people were in the right for kicking them out.

This isn’t coping anymore. This is full on sneeding.

Who even gives a flying fuck about Godot? What the fuck actual games have been created in it that even matter?

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Who even gives a flying fuck about Godot? What the fuck actual games have been created in it that even matter?

Sonic Colors Ultimate and how disastrous it was.

 

[306h4Ge5eJUJ]

The unhuman-like comments for stubs that are self described are indicative of ChatGPT code.

I've seen these from beginner devs again and again, even before LLMs existed. I think it's related to them not being able to "fluently read" code. He could also just be closely following a tutorial.

 

[SCV]

I think you're completely ignoring the 'autistic angle' here and given how central it is I honestly don't believe you're engaging in good faith anymore, so I'm just going to make a couple quips and hopefully leave it at that.

Your defense of him saying that disgusting shit is that accusations of child rape are "stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing"!?? What the fuck man.

That's part of the direct quote which you can find linked in my previous post. Such is life effort posting. I also find it amusing that you are now quoting the other half of the quote out of context. Anyway you are seemingly intentionally conflating "child rape" (your words) with "voluntarily pedophilia" (RMS quote) which is, again, exactly the kind of hair-splitting that is at issue and that you seem to be willingly ignoring to make your ""point"". On the other hand the difference between voluntary acts and rape is a felony so maybe that's not all that pedantic and maybe you're full of shit.

really the hill you want to die on when arguing if bestiality should be illegal? Spoiler alert: fucking dogs is gross! Anyways, we have an entire sub-forum for you if that's the case lmao.

At no point have *I* argued anything about the legality of bestiality. If you must know I think it should be illegal for several reasons including the reason *I* gave as a possible better-than-religion argument.

And man, I'm very familiar with the arguments he's making. I used to be a vegetarian and even today I rarely eat meat. "If it's okay to kill an animal then why is it not okay to pleasure it" is a very tired, old PETA line that has been repeatedly destroyed as the retarded garbage it is.

No one has said this. You are indiscriminately attributing arguments and positions to RMS as a strawman to knock down. If you feel otherwise then source me a quote.

He then spends another 20 years occasionally saying "well I changed my mind about those spicy things" while doubling down on them.

it's a lifetime of saying really gross shit about pedophilia and bestiality,

this isn't just "six lines" being used to hang someone, it's a lifetime of writing this shit.

Well, you've got two lines and a rumor so far. Best get to work if you want to substantiate that "lifetime of saying really gross shit".

 

[skunt]

Sorry, but I don't buy this "autism tho" angle. Nobody else gets the same olive branch when being accused of the same things. Autistic or not, he's not a fucking retard and if he's failed to learn why the things he's saying are reprehensible then he deserves to hang with the others. It's really just that simple.

 

[Kola]

Stallman is autistic and thought he could make a logical case supporting all sorts of weird sexual relations. Of course these things are not based on logic so he backtracked a couple of years later but I don't think he genuinely thinks he said something wrong, somebody just told him it's better for PR and it was egregious enough even for him to realize that. He's not in a position to actually do anything like that so it's just some fat retard's musings on the internet. Without WWW nobody would know he's like that (maybe except a small circle of friends).

He made the same mistake years later when he thought he could defend Minsky by making a logical argument when a lynch mob was picking up the torches and pitchforks.

 

[SCV]

if he's failed to learn why the things he's saying are reprehensible

"[Many years after posting this note, I had conversations with people who had been sexually abused as children and had suffered harmful effects. These conversations eventually convinced me that the practice is harmful and adults should not do it.]"

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

The whole point of discussing things is to learn. I've watched some absolute shitshows here, but have still managed to reflect and learn things in all of the arguing.

If it's not acceptable for someone to make a logical argument for something, or to realize the error of his ways and change his opinions after conversation, then what's the fucking point of free speech?

As a final note, remember that Bill Gates doesn't get any shit for his repeated visits to the island, and MicroSoft's image is still squeaky clean. That's so funny, isn't it?

 

[Stratovorious]

The whole point of discussing things is to learn. I've watched some absolute shitshows here, but have still managed to reflect and learn things in all of the arguing.

If it's not acceptable for someone to make a logical argument for something, or to realize the error of his ways and change his opinions after conversation, then what's the fucking point of free speech?

As a final note, remember that Bill Gates doesn't get any shit for his repeated visits to the island, and MicroSoft's image is still squeaky clean. That's so funny, isn't it?

I actively cringe at some of the dumb bullshit I've said or believed over the course of my life. Social media being an immutable public record of one's mistakes, for which they can never be forgiven, is a Hell that I only wish on the worst of humanity.

The public's treatment of RMS makes me glad I'm a Nobody that no one gives a shit about. Man can't ever catch a break.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

At this point, who isn’t doing anything in like open source stuff??

 

[Kola]

if he's failed to learn why the things he's saying are reprehensible

"[Many years after posting this note, I had conversations with people who had been sexually abused as children and had suffered harmful effects. These conversations eventually convinced me that the practice is harmful and adults should not do it.]"

I don't think this is sincere because it directly contradicts what he said earlier:

The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.

If he changed his mind about cases where it was voluntary, why did it happen after speaking to victims of abuse?

 

[teriyakiburns]

If he changed his mind about cases where it was voluntary, why did it happen after speaking to victims of abuse?

His initial position was the very binary belief that they could have just said no, so if they didn't say no, it must have been voluntary. Talking to abuse victims gave him the revelation that abuse victims are generally prevented from saying no by the threat of further abuse. This is just the sort of autistic behaviour I'd expect from someone more used to dealing with state machines than people.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Who even gives a flying fuck about Godot? What the fuck actual games have been created in it that even matter?

Halls of Torment isn't bad. I don't know that it "matters", but it's a pretty decent game.

 

[BlueSpark]

People in this thread seriously defending that degenerate kike pedophile, what the fuck

Your entire reply fails to address or even mention my point about self-reflection or that he changed his mind about this. And again you've left out the other half of the quote:
"I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.". By the way, if this comes off as edgy atheist fedora tipping that's because it's from 2006. I'm sure everything you wrote in 2006 is entirely kosher. I bet you never even said nigger.

I knew fucking kids was bad back in 2006 when I was a literal child myself and so did everyone else you fucking freak. Yeah saying nigger and thinking that raping children is ok are both the same please kill yourself

Doesn't RMS also have terminal cancer or something?

God, I hope so, and I hope he lives a long time with it before it kills him.

 

[i440BX]

I think the obsession of making a fork for the sake of being anti woke only is useless.
It is much better to modify your engine to your liking when you are not pleased with the treatment the main devs do or when they ban you.

 

[jakkufurosuto]

I think the obsession of making a fork for the sake of being anti woke only is useless.
It is much better to modify your engine to your liking when you are not pleased with the treatment the main devs do or when they ban you.

in general it's just better to use/make something you'd like to be spending many many hours of your life with! all the features and support and goodies it has don't mean jackshit if everyone's just putting up with its shenanigans all the time. it's gonna bite you in the ass when you least expect it, at the worst time, and you'll be scrambling to hack some solution up before deadline's up. (PL: been subject to this a few times)
idtech engines are often well regarded for being able to build on top of them because they really are battle-tested. that's what happens when you develop a game engine alongside a game, you have a goal and your tools need to meet it to realize it. godot originally was built primarily for games the developers worked on, but that got thrown out the window quick. now it's all "tech" "demos", with that third person shooter one being particularly hilarious with it being a blatant showcase of the engine's shader problems up to eleven.

 

[Stumbling7]

Who even gives a flying fuck about Godot? What the fuck actual games have been created in it that even matter?

Buckshot Roulette a good cheap game that has Linux Support, and Cruelty Squad a game that people soy over and the creator is a fag.

And also City game Studio, imagine a more in-depth version of Game Dev Tycoon, the polishing needs some work but it's alright.

 

[Hall of Cost Payer]

I think the obsession of making a fork for the sake of being anti woke only is useless.
It is much better to modify your engine to your liking when you are not pleased with the treatment the main devs do or when they ban you.

I mean the plan, the Reddit fags talked about was not bad at all. They said how a lot of PR's to Godot were feature complete but not merged because of Godot maintainers' opinions. And their plan was to merge them to Redot.

Making them the "feature complete" version sounds solid and they could freeboot a bunch of work others have already provided. But even just integrating those and make everything function with other master changes would require significantly more coding skill than the whole group of clout chasers ever displayed.

 

[Likely]

I think you're completely ignoring the 'autistic angle' here and given how central it is I honestly don't believe you're engaging in good faith anymore, so I'm just going to make a couple quips and hopefully leave it at that.

I'm not ignoring it, but being autistic is not some free pass. That man was a functioning grown ass adult in his 30s or 40s when he said that. He is not a retard.

At no point have *I* argued anything about the legality of bestiality. If you must know I think it should be illegal for several reasons including the reason *I* gave as a possible better-than-religion argument.

lmao again, it was about laws, not religion. you cant even keep your own facts straight

you are seemingly intentionally conflating "child rape" (your words) with "voluntarily pedophilia"

oh my god bitch you have completely lost the plot

Well, you've got two lines and a rumor so far. Best get to work if you want to substantiate that "lifetime of saying really gross shit".

ive got a guy in my mentions splitting hairs that "child rape" is not the same as "voluntary pedophilia" (that's you). i understand that he recanted (many years later), but he has a lifetime of hemming and hawing about age of consent. That's a HUGE red flag, and a bunch of random.txt contenders. I guess we're just too far apart on this. tbh i dont really think there's a point in engaging further