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It's even dumber in this case because he's trying to compare two wildly different approaches to similar material and flubbing it horrendously.
For those that aren't aware, the clip he was reacting to (three months late for some reason) is from the latest season of The Boys, in which A-Train (one of the bad supes) rescues one of said Boys and drops him off at a hospital, only to be spotted briefly by a kid who gives him a look of awe at a simple heroic act. For a moment, he actually feels like the hero he's been pretending to be for years, forcing him to grapple with what he should be doing. It's part of a slow shift in his character that picked up more in the last season.
Bob's argument is that anyone who tries to satirize or deconstruct capeshit inevitably wants to prove that they can do it right, and rather than stick to making jokes, they instead pivot to a more serious story. As proof, he brings up the MCU and claims that it went from a somewhat humorous Iron Man to a super grounded and serious Captain America in the span of four movies.
This, of course, is retarded on multiple levels. To start off, Iron Man was not a satire or deconstruction of capeshit, it was literally just a fairly faithful movie adaptation of a comic book character. Just because Jon Favreau has a background in comedy doesn't mean he was setting out to do anything groundbreaking. You also have to consider that the immediate followup to Iron Man was The Incredible Hulk, so they were already producing movies more serious in tone. Flip flop back to a bit more lighthearted with Iron Man 2, then half-and-half with Thor. And this argument gets even dumber when you consider the very next movie after Cap was The Avengers, which created the snarktastic mold that every following MCU movie would use.
We can further torpedo his point by discussing perhaps the most famous deconstruction of capeshit of all, Watchmen. At no point did Alan Moore try to "make it right and do it for real again," and he'd probably have quite a few harsh words for Bobbo for implying it.
So I get where you're coming from, and that's probably how a lot of the MCU shit was planned out to begin with (broad strokes that get filled in with more detail later), but it's not really what Bob's talking about, and he's so fucking wrong in what he is talking about. The MCU was never a deconstruction, it hasn't gradually shifted from making fun of the source material to taking it very seriously (the opposite, if anything), and not all satirical works want to create a better version of what they're mocking.
and thus opinion immediately discarded by Bob.
" cultist. Opinion automatically discarded.
needs to point this out.
