Abortion is good. - While bad for the family, it's ultimately positive for society.

it is clearly a health risk to wait until a fetus has no heartbeat before an abortion which is what the texas law instructs.
Post some cases and the law itself then. Worst case scenario just slightly rewrite it if necessary, because the goal is just to prevent unnecessary abortions, which is 99% of them.

and what babies have I killed?
Voting for infanticide is no different than killing a baby yourself.

you could oppose me more if you moved overseas, actually.
Maybe if I took you with me and left you there.

As for demons, you're becoming a devil yourself. Advocating dictatorship, really? What next? Selling your soul?
Devils and dictators who oppose infanticide are good in my book. You don't even have a soul to sell, demon, so don't worry about mine.

infant mortality rate is quite clear, it is the death of infants. Babies. Which abortion bans are causing.
And what's the alleged correlation between an increase in infant mortality and a ban on killing infants in the womb?

Abortion does not kill babies.
"Carnivores do not eat meat" LOL

A fetus is not a baby.
It quite literally is a baby. What magic occurs to make a """fetus""" a baby exactly?

You have a 9-month "fetus" and a doctor takes it out, at what precise point did it transform into a baby? Pinpoint the moment. While you're at it, tell me what anatomic differences there are before and after that moment transpires.
 
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There will never be common ground on the pro/anti abortion people. The antis believe a clump of cells the size of a grain of rice, with no brain has a souls and is a person. The pro abortion people believe an 8 month old fetus should be killed if the mother wants to.

The fact that every progressive (anti racist) supports abortion, and black women get the majority of them, is unquestionably hilarious.
It's also hilarious that the progressives are the ones in full support of using banned surgeries to extract the fetus intact at the detriment of the mother, just to sell for biological research that leads no where without the mother's consent. Or that they support surrogacy for fags by removing the women's "my body my choice" and makes them liable to be sued. In both cases, women have no say over their bodies and they are being reverted into a commercial product to be sold.
 
Post some cases and the law itself then. Worst case scenario just slightly rewrite it if necessary, because the goal is just to prevent unnecessary abortions, which is 99% of them.

law here

texas woman almost dies after being denied abortion

previous vid
more cases


Voting for infanticide is no different than killing a baby yourself.
And how did I vote for it? I've been voting for the conservative party - liberals-for ages. If they legalise abortion, who I vote for?



Maybe if I took you with me and left you there.
This makes no sense whatsoever.

Devils and dictators who oppose infanticide are good in my book. You don't even have a soul to sell, demon, so don't worry about mine.
Oh but I am. I am concerned about your soul.

And what's the alleged correlation between an increase in infant mortality and a ban on killing infants in the womb?
that the abortions usually done, the ones being banned, are for non-viable pregnancies to begin with.

"Carnivores do not eat meat" LOL
But it's true. There are no babies involved in abortions. Redefining what's actually done - which involves a fetus - and calling it baby killing is pretty much sticking to a lie. Be honest, at least.

I get maybe you didn't get sex-ed where you came from, but please, know the difference.

It quite literally is a baby. What magic occurs to make a """fetus""" a baby exactly?
Health, for starters.

It isn't going to end up much if a baby if it doesn't have that.

But hey, if you want to equate a fetus with a baby, why not just equate it with a full grown adult? It's okay to kill those, according to you. It's okay to treat them like crap in your desired dictatorship.

You have a 9-month "fetus" and a doctor takes it out, at what precise point did it transform into a baby? Pinpoint the moment. While you're at it, tell me what anatomic differences there are before and after that moment transpires.
at 22 weeks of pregnancy, as it's what the law decided where I am . And the conservative group decided that so it must be right. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
 
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If you're too lazy to actually put effort into posting it and argue how it proves your case instead of just spamming links then you essentially concede as far as I'm concerned.

And how did I vote for it?
I figure you vote for what you advocate for, silly me.

This makes no sense whatsoever.
It does, but it proves you ain't much for thinking.

I am concerned about your soul.
Then pray for it while you repent for advocating for infanticide.

that the abortions usually done, the ones being banned, are for non-viable pregnancies to begin with.
Prove that claim, it's false.

But it's true. There are no babies involved in abortions.
Sure there are, just hiding behind euphemistic language doesn't change that.

Redefining what's actually done - which involves a fetus - and calling it baby killing is pretty much sticking to a lie. Be honest, at least.
Take your own advice, unborn babies are still babies, your choice of term isn't a spell which changes what the baby is.

I get maybe you didn't get sex-ed where you came from, but please, know the difference.
I got enough to know where babies come from.

Health, for starters.

It isn't going to end up much if a baby if it doesn't have that.
No, it will be, even if it's born with AIDS and no hands or whatever. It's not a toaster or a dog, but a human baby, and you can't change that.

But hey, if you want to equate a fetus with a baby, why not just equate it with a full grown adult?
Yes, why not? I mean, if a baby in the womb is equal to a baby out of it--since location doesn't dictate species or value--and a baby is equal in value to an adult, then surely a baby in the womb is also equal to an adult. This is called logic, sweetie.

It's okay to kill those, according to you. It's okay to treat them like crap in your desired dictatorship.
If they're not innocent, yes, evil people shouldn't live, at least not among us. Grave, cell, or exile for your type.

at 22 weeks of pregnancy, as it's what the law decided where I am
So niggers weren't human and women were property when and where that was law, and you're fine with that because law dictates morality and reality, good to know.

And the conservative group decided that so it must be right.
Or they must be RINOs ripe for purging.
 
Abortion is murder.
Yes.

Murder can be justified.
Not murder of babies you retard.

Not every life has equal value.
Every soul has a spark of divinity in it and they're babies you fucking retard.

A child growing up unloved or destitute is worse than it not being born.
So don't let that child grow up unloved or destitute you retard.

Culling young is not a new practice.
Culling baby murderers is not a new practice either.
 
Because the people in those situations are generally too retarded to even have existential thoughts to begin with. Some people who grew up with retarded methhead parents or who were FAS babies really do make something of themselves. Most don't, that's why poverty is generational. Easiest way to stamp out poverty is to encourage genetic wastes like the average trailer park methhead or inner city crackhead to abort their kids. "Oh why not just tell them to wear condoms and do birth control?" Well good thing you asked, because these people are genuinely retarded and won't do that shit no matter how much you tell them. A baby isn't just a consequence for them (which is weird way to think about babies I gotta say), it's a consequence for society because my tax money goes to support the welfare these trailer trash and hoodrats hoover up every single day, let alone the inevitable prison sentences, crime, etc.
It's a retarded way to think about human worth. I've lived in close proximity to both white trash and rich white people. Were there some losers among the former who lived up to their label? Sure, but I could count the families like that on one hand. They were reviled and ostracized by the rest, and were a limited problem. The rich kids though? Drugs were ubiquitous at the local boarding school. Almost all of them were complete fuck-ups, wastes of human life who never made anything of themselves. I could count the number of them who made something worthwhile of themselves on one hand, the rest were parasites coasting by on mommy and daddy's money.

Why are they better? Because they have money? Their parent's wealth is being stolen from you just the same as a welfare recipient's. Their parents were cozy with politicians, they engaged in insider trading, lobbied for crooked regulations that favored their interests, outsourced labor, cut benefits, imported slave labor for those financial interests which they derived their money from. That's how they maintained their wealth, by looting the carcass of a once-great country and impoverishing its actually productive middle-class inhabitants.

A welfare recipient costs me as a productive citizen pennies on the dollar. A heroin-chic trustfund brat costs me hundreds of times that, and they'll end up working at some non-profit dedicated to smuggling Guatemalan rapists into the country. At least I can count on most of the 'white trash' to be sensible politically and to (on average) produce useful, productive people. And working class white people used to be able to raise a family on one income. Who changed that? Who subsidized their increased profits from slashed wages by agitating politically to put their underpaid workforce on the public dole and make it your problem? Those rich white people with 'superior genes' that you're so eager to see reproduced. It's such a ridiculous, buck-broken mentality.
 
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Crossposting myself:
Perspective from a healthy society:
Don't want kids, don't have sex, it's that simple, it doesn't take much mental capacity to keep your pants on. My taxes should not go to some "medical procedure" that is mostly dedicated for whores, that's a society I don't support. If you want to have sex and not have kids, then I'm only pro abortion if it's followed through by a sterilisation right after, unless it was a consequence of actual rape (a very rare exception where it can be allowed to perform an abortion without the sterilisation).

I honestly believe that all of the fucked up dynamic surrounding dating and "gender roles" and so on is due to birth control/contraceptives and abortions being too easily obtained. You remove the whole "having a baby" part from sex, you end up segregating those two parts mentally and it leads to some really nasty consequences.

Millennials and zoomers don't see it as a "baby making" act, but rather a "casual social" act. Which means that as long there is no STD's or pregnancies, it's ok... and that's how we got pedo acceptance, because if you "don't spread STD's or knocking up someone, what's the harm right?". Like why do you think the "sexual liberation" is closely tied with faggotry, pedos and anti-nihilism?
I think that if you are sexually active and don't see a baby after some time, you become mentally ill because that's not what is supposed to happen naturally, you brain will think that something is wrong and you become more extreme, develop fetishes, hook up with other partners and so on. Men will seek younger women because they think that the woman they were with might have been too old (or just broken ovaries). Women will start looking for other men (other races, more feminized or more extreme masculine men) because she will think the previous partners balls didn't work.

All this because people got access to birth control/contraceptives and abortions. In a healthy society, this stuff would be heavily constrained.

Perspective from an unhealthy society:
We need to cull the niggers! Mandatory abortion, quickly followed by a sterilisation right after the procedure.

If you do have an abortions. I do think we should revoke the voting rights for this person. If you can't take up the role of taking care of one person (you don't have the will of having a kid now), then I doubt that you have the mental capacity to know what is best for a country (many more people).
Depends on the society IMO.
 
I'll avoid the moral discussion and just do the public interest aspect of this. To be blunt abortion is birth control and birth control is abortion and both are promiscuity culture. Let me be clear promiscuity culture is an unmitigated public health and cultural disaster that has frankly given us a thermo nuclear explosion of single motherhood. Along with causing the spread of diseases within the community, we risk losing control over. I'll be blunt once again promiscuity culture is utter social cancer along with being a fiscal liability. In contrast before the sexual revolution or great leap backwards we flat out didn't have single mothers, or stds as we have them now. Promiscuity culture powered by abortion on demand by no stretch of the imagination has done anything other than turn to shit anything it touches. It is like being able to burn oneself on a stove but rather than pain experiencing an intense sense of pleasure. We shall touch the stove time and again.

TL;Dr
We have an epidemic of single mothers because abortion gives a license for people to fuck around so its a net negative for the public.
 
Abortion is just self-defense, most abortions are self defense for economical reasons and this is the trend internationally. Age of when it becomes a person is irrelevant, and if Kyle Rittenhouse can mow down a bunch of ppl and claim self defense, so too can the college strong and independent women getting her 50th abortion of the year!
 
Applicable meme from the funny pictures thread (and my thoughts on the subject)
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If you're too lazy to actually put effort into posting it and argue how it proves your case instead of just spamming links then you essentially concede as far as I'm concerned
I gave you the law you requested and cases involved. How is it my fault I have to make even more tl:dr text walls when I am busy with real life while you neither have a life or the guts to click on a link

I figure you vote for what you advocate for, silly me
I do, though.

See, what you are is incredibly naive. You think daddy government will be a magic wand to make your country a pro-life utopia? Lol. Trump could very well be elected, he might do something. Or his talk might all he bluster and he could do nothing anyway. he could do something, then get backlash and back out. He could do something, then next two days die of heart attack (as old people do) , and be replaced by someone who isn't fussed about pro-life at all. It's a Western government, it's going to constantly change.

You spend all this time and energy expecting someone to force the issue. You never try reaching or understanding. So you waste time with what little power you have, which is no power at all.


Then pray for it while you repent for advocating for infanticide.
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Prove that claim, it's false.
the infant mortality rate rising after Texas abortion ban proves abortions done are for non viable pregnancies.

Why don't you prove that abortions are done 100% of the time by loose women getting knocked up every other week, or whatever straw man you have in your head?

Sure there are, just hiding behind euphemistic language doesn't change that.
it's not just language, it's a physical difference. You are continuing to lie.

Take your own advice, unborn babies are still babies, your choice of term isn't a spell which changes what the baby is
Your choice if term isn't a magic spell to change what a fetus is.

I got enough to know where babies come from.
See below

No, it will be, even if it's born with AIDS and no hands or whatever. It's not a toaster or a dog, but a human baby, and you can't change that.
Nature does change that. It could be stuck in the fallopian tube and not be viable. It could develop with no brain. It could be stuck outside the uterus. I don't think you understand how nature works and how dangerous and messed up it could be.


Yes, why not? I mean, if a baby in the womb is equal to a baby out of it--since location doesn't dictate species or value--and a baby is equal in value to an adult, then surely a baby in the womb is also equal to an adult. This is called logic, sweetie.

If they're not innocent, yes, evil people shouldn't live, at least not among us. Grave, cell, or exile for your type.
So human life is valuable for nine months, maybe a couple of years then as soon as it is capable of thought it should be killed. Why not just skip the nine months altogether? You don't value human life at all, just pumping out DNA so it can be killed.

So niggers weren't human and women were property when and where that was law, and you're fine with that because law dictates morality and reality, good to know.


Or they must be RINOs ripe for purging.
Oh? So you are capable of having doubts on a conservative government? You are capable of realising that your republican party could very well turn your back on you? What would you do then? Purge yourself?
 
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How is it my fault I
am lazy?" There, I finished your sentence.

You think daddy government will be a magic wand to make your country a pro-life utopia?
Of course not, baby killing is a cultural disease brainwashed into the masses, tricking the naive and enabling the evil, all for profit and their god Satan. It's not going down without a fight.

the infant mortality rate rising after Texas abortion ban proves abortions done are for non viable pregnancies.
Libtards love to screech correlation does not equal causation, and it actually applies sometimes, like here. It's a fact that most abortions are elective, not for medical reasons.

Why don't you prove that abortions are done 100% of the time by loose women getting knocked up every other week, or whatever straw man you have in your head?
Not 100%. Elective and unspecified reasons: 95.9%. And medical doesn't even make up 1%.

it's not just language, it's a physical difference. You are continuing to lie.
There's physical difference between human of all stages of development, you think that once someone's out of the womb they're done changing and there's no more physical differences? LOL. An infant is physically different than a toddler, they're both human you dipshit.

Your choice if term isn't a magic spell to change what a fetus is.
True, it's just an unborn baby regardless if what we call this early human stage of life.

Nature does change that. It could be stuck in the fallopian tube and not be viable. It could develop with no brain. It could be stuck outside the uterus. I don't think you understand how nature works and how dangerous and messed up it could be.
Oh my favorite, arguing entirely around rare outliers like brainless babies, amazing, never saw that before. Thank God you're too pussy to say "yes I support the 96% of non-medically necessary abortions too because I just like killing babies".

So human life is valuable for nine months, maybe a couple of years then as soon as it is capable of thought it should be killed.
A couple years? What 2 year old is capable of true evil?

Oh? So you are capable of having doubts on a conservative government? You are capable of realising that your republican party could very well turn your back on you? What would you do then? Purge yourself?
Purging them would be better, but since that's neither possible nor wise even if it was possible, I'd just vote for an outsider like Trump who RINOs hate. Trump has my vote because he makes you fuckers seethe.
 
am I busy?" There, I finished your sentence
FTFY
Of course not, baby killing is a cultural disease brainwashed into the masses, tricking the naive and enabling the evil, all for profit and their god Satan. It's not going down without a fight.
don't you think you might be the one who's brainwashed? You adamantly stick to renaming things despite physical differences, like a cultist. You blindly strawman and demonise your adversaries, like a cultist. You have been lied to that all abortions are all done by promiscuous women and there totes are no happy couples just having trouble getting a healthy pregnancy.

You, my poor fellow, are in a cult. Not because you are religious, but you are somewhat of an extremist.

not a libtatd don't make assumptions
love to screech correlation does not equal causation, and it actually applies sometimes, like here. It's a fact that most abortions are elective, not for medical reasons.
so why is there a rise in infant mortality rates in Texas, then?

Not 100%. Elective and unspecified reasons: 95.9%. And medical doesn't even make up 1%.
so I checked out your Charlotte lozier institute and googled a bit, found this 🤔

But if I still want to humour you, then that would still be 3.1% of a large population (america is a big place, and we do like to focus on one country too, don't we?) that aren't elective.

And that's humouring you.

There's physical difference between human of all stages of development, you think that once someone's out of the womb they're done changing and there's no more physical differences? LOL. An infant is physically different than a toddler, they're both human you dipshit.
and vice versa. This is what I'm trying to explain. Do you think there was no prior changes before a baby was born? Did it suddenly pop out arms and legs and eyes two seconds after the sperm fused with the egg?

True, it's just an unborn baby regardless if what we call this early human stage of life.
Again, like a cultist, you try to redefine definitions.

Oh my favorite, arguing entirely around rare outliers like brainless babies, amazing, never saw that before.
So again, why are the infant mortality rates rising in Texas?

I gave you some cases of woman at risk and dying from lack of access to legal abortion. Do they not matter at all because you believe it's all so rare?

Is that what you consider invaluable life? Is that is what it makes it okay for someone to die?

Thank God you're too pussy to say "yes I support the 96% of non-medically necessary abortions too because I just like killing babies".
like a cultists, you demonise your opponent into some sadistic straw man.

A couple years? What 2 year old is capable of true evil?
I don't know, at what point do you think a person becomes evil? 2 years old? 5? 10? 18? If you consider it's okay to kill someone for being pro-choice, what if a 10 year old is out trying to convince a baptist kid it's whack? You gonna kill that 10 year old?

Purging them would be better, but since that's neither possible nor wise even if it was possible, I'd just vote for an outsider like Trump who RINOs hate. Trump has my vote because he makes you fuckers seethe.
And that's all you're capable of, deluding yourself into thinking your pro-life utopia is around the corner and that you have any control over anyone's life, and deluding yourself that every single person is crying over your opinion, instead of reality: I feel sorry for you.
 
That's a better reason but either way you're conceding.

You have been lied to that all abortions are all done by promiscuous women and there totes are no happy couples just having trouble getting a healthy pregnancy.
You're not convincing anybody most abortions are for unviable babies.

so why is there a rise in infant mortality rates in Texas, then?
You're the one making the claim, prove banning abortions caused infant mortality to spike.

But if I still want to humour you, then that would still be 3.1% of a large population (america is a big place, and we do like to focus on one country too, don't we?) that aren't elective.
Feel free to cite your own numbers and source. But like I said, that remainder still isn't getting abortions for medical reasons. It's very rare to need a medically necessary abortion.

Do you think there was no prior changes before a baby was born? Did it suddenly pop out arms and legs and eyes two seconds after the sperm fused with the egg?
I never claimed it did, but you're implying a human isn't a human just because it isn't developed enough to survive outside the womb, which is retarded.

Again, like a cultist, you try to redefine definitions.
The one in the cult is you, your infanticidal anti-natalist cult denies humans of their human rights just because they're small and helpless.

I gave you some cases of woman at risk and dying from lack of access to legal abortion. Do they not matter at all because you believe it's all so rare?
You didn't prove they died due to abortion bans, you merely claimed it and sent a link, making no argument and providing no proof. I'm not wading through links, post the relevant info like I did when I cited abortion stats. I didn't just send a link.

If you consider it's okay to kill someone for being pro-choice, what if a 10 year old is out trying to convince a baptist kid it's whack? You gonna kill that 10 year old?
I'm not going to kill anyone, but that doesn't mean baby killers don't deserve death. 10 year olds are little kids, they aren't responsible for what they say because they're retarded kids. In 8 years he'd deserve a woodchipper, however.

And that's all you're capable of, deluding yourself into thinking your pro-life utopia is around the corner and that you have any control over anyone's life, and deluding yourself that every single person is crying over your opinion, instead of reality: I feel sorry for you.
That's a really cool fanfic.
 
You're not convincing anybody most abortions are for unviable babies.
and who do you think you're busy trying to convince with your arguments? Yourself?

You're the one making the claim, prove banning abortions caused infant mortality to spike.
go for it if you wish

Feel free to cite your own numbers and source. But like I said, that remainder still isn't getting abortions for medical reasons. It's very rare to need a medically necessary abortion.
here it claims 12%
Not rare enough



I never claimed it did, but you're implying a human isn't a human just because it isn't developed enough to survive outside the womb, which is retarded.
putting words in my mouth.

I am implying it is better for it to die before it is capable of pain. I thought I made that clear.

The one in the cult is you, your infanticidal anti-natalist cult denies humans of their human rights just because they're small and helpless.
victim mentally is not just for leftist libtards it seems.



You didn't prove they died due to abortion bans, you merely claimed it and sent a link, making no argument and providing no proof. I'm not wading through links, post the relevant info like I did when I cited abortion stats. I didn't just send a link.
the video clearly showed why they were denied medical help. Or didn't you watch? They did claim some stats so why not watch?

I'm not going to kill anyone, but that doesn't mean baby killers don't deserve death. 10 year olds are little kids, they aren't responsible for what they say because they're retarded kids. In 8 years he'd deserve a woodchipper, however.
You extend mercy on a 10 year old but just give up on someone after this magical 18 years of age (and why 18 I'd like to know), as if people just stop being retarded.


But don't worry, I'm not going to give up on you ❤️

That's a really cool fanfic.
I'm enjoying yours ❤️
 
Courageous to try but nah, as a whole life conservative just being human is enough for me to adhere to the non-agression principle.

Natural death to everyone, the unborn, the sick, the criminal, the old.
 
You think abortion is bad because you care about "the gift of life".
I think abortion is bad because I don't want the ultrarich getting any more stem cells to cheat death.

We are not the same.
 
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