US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Lian Xing]

I'm a time traveler and this is the final electoral map, if I'm wrong I owe everyone a heartfelt apology personalized to each one of you:
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>NC blue when Trump has been polling +2.5%
I disagree with you here. Out of all the so-called swing states, NC is the most Trump leaning. However, I like your 271-267 for maximum seethe.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Wtf is going on with Michigan.

 

[The Ugly One]

Denver is 54% White. It hasn’t been 70% White since the 1970s.

It's close to 70% when you include white Hispanic.

If Denver simply following national voting patterns:
Whites 55% Rep
Hispanic 35% Rep
Black 12% Rep
Asian 35% Rep

...then Trump would have gotten at least 45% of the vote. Instead, he got 18%. About 40% of whites vote Democrat, and these whites are heavily concentrated in cities. You could go full RaHoWa, and the current GOP would still not even have a shot in the cities.

 

[General Disarray]

Travelling along with Nick, we're visiting North Carolina!

 

[Pure Snort]

Things like computers are often used for business' and selling Amish made goods. The computer is usually kept in a closed off part of the house, inaccessible by anyone but the business owner, but with a big fucking window looking right in to where the screen is so anyone passing by can confirm the owner is only doing business.

Different sects and even communities also accept different levels of technology. I've seen Mennonites (another anabaptist sect) that allow cell phones, but only for business, and they're flip phones.

Cool, learning new facts. Despite knowing we have the Amish as a customer I've not been the one directly interacting so there's lots of neat details I don't know.

 

[Dr J]

…do the Amish have credit cards? Don’t think I’ve ever seen a self checkout that takes cash.

You have them here in Britain but they're becoming fewer and fewer

 

[Gehenna]

Cool, learning new facts. Despite knowing we have the Amish as a customer I've not been the one directly interacting so there's lots of neat details I don't know.

One of the families in my little homesteading project are a former Amish family with some fascinating tales. They loved the lifestyle, which is why they signed onto my dumbfuck idea, but didn't like a lot of the more... extreme elements of Amish culture. The amish really are a lesson in dualities.

 

[Lian Xing]

It's close to 70% when you include white Hispanic.

There is a difference between truly Hispanic people (European Iberians that have been in the desert Southwest for centuries) and what the US calls Hispanic in 2024 (Iberians and Latinos [mestizoes from Central and South American]). Latinos not being in their own category makes the US "Hispanic" category useless.

but didn't like a lot of the more... extreme elements of Amish culture.

I, too, enjoy regular bathing.

 

[Dr J]

Maybe his family will do a quiet apolitical image rehabilitation like Jimmy Carter did with Habitats for Humanity

He really isn't going to live long enough to rehabilitate himself

I do not expect them to throw Kamala under the bus

Well then, you're naive. You're never ever gonna hear about Kamala again if she loses this

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

Polymarket odds have closed somewhat over the last couple days. But Trump is still up by a good margin.


The swing states have remained nearly unchanged everywhere but Michigan and Wisconsin, with Michigan completely flipping to a large lead for Kamala.



This is Michigan for the last week.

Polymarket

 

[Gehenna]

I, too, enjoy regular bathing.

More the extreme level of clannishness, to the point that anyone who steps a toe out of line has to go through an amish struggle session that would make the Chinese say to tone it the fuck down.

 

[Kankichi Ryotsu]

Polymarket odds have closed somewhat over the last couple days. But Trump is still up by a good margin.
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The swing states have remained nearly unchanged everywhere but Michigan and Wisconsin, with Michigan completely flipping to a large lead for Kamala.
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This is Michigan for the last week.
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Polymarket

Did something happen to explain such a surge for Kamala in Michigan in the last few days?

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Polymarket odds have closed somewhat over the last couple days. But Trump is still up by a good margin.
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The swing states have remained nearly unchanged everywhere but Michigan and Wisconsin, with Michigan completely flipping to a large lead for Kamala.
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This is Michigan for the last week.
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Polymarket

That Michigan swing looks like someone with insider knowledge. Wonder if the Dem's dirty ballot operations there haven't been detected or compromised yet.

 

[Gehenna]

Did something happen to explain such a surge for Kamala in Michigan in the last few days?

The chinese vote that was illegal but "Would still be counted" probably. Likely shattered any confidence in that early on and it simply never recovered.

 

[Burnt Effigy]

Is there such a thing as a November surprise?

https://xcancel.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1852335609932587109 / https://archive.is/BuKfe

Interference don't stop until it's over

https://xcancel.com/WallStreetApes/status/1852335006208958582 / https://archive.is/Qeucz

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

What I’m left wondering is what’s the future of the DNC because the party is going to be at a crossroads with moderate Bill Clinton side fighting for control with the radical left. Not like I’m soothsayer but I think the Dems will be forced to have an image reinvention like the GOP did. I just don’t see how a Democratic Party that doesn’t really stand for anything maintains any relevancy.

It all really boils down to how close the defeat is for the democrats. If its close, expect the more moderate elements to retain power. If its a crushing defeat, expect the more radical elements to gain more control of the party. With the severity of that gain based on how crushing the defeat. 350+ electoral landslide for example, would spell the end of even the Obamas.

I am going to rate this very optimistic. I know in NJ Rs are leading Ds in early voting, but there is a solid D political machine there. For VA, I want to believe. I know in AZ and NM, Latinos are breaking to Trump by double digits compared to 2016 and 2020 so I can buy that. However, I don't see how GA is blue this cycle.

Georgia was red last cycle. Then a leaky pipe busted down in Fulton and magically the state became blue. Given the same RINO shitheads are still in power in Georgia, I'll call it a miracle if the state goes red this year.

 

[Obsessed snowman]

Did something happen to explain such a surge for Kamala in Michigan in the last few days?

Some lefty polls flipped the RCP average and a doomer cascade followed. This post outlines an explanation.

I think it is to try and demoralize Trump voters and suppress their vote. You have seen it on Twitter, some Trump supporter with a large following mentions the betting markets swinging towards Harris, all their followers start dooming. I think it is all a part of a bigger psyop going on and sadly it seems a lot of Trump supporters are falling for it.

- CNN drops an insane Harris+5 and +6 in Michigan and Wisconsin
- Trump supporters start posting it, people start dooming
- Betting markets start this insane pump and dump to show odds/states start swinging towards harris
- more dooming and Trump supporters posting about it
- CNN starts talking about men not voting early and the electorate is much more female(without the context of young black men not showing up for Harris and conservative men have said they will vote on election day in much larger % than democrats and the male early vote is already a higher % in early voting than 2020 and 2022)
- more dooming
- Now CNN and other left wing people on Twitter start saying there is panic inside Trump's inner circle over early voting.

It feels like this is all coordinated to suppress Trump voters on election day, and sadly so many people with influence over Conservatives are falling for it.

 

[Gehenna]

Is there such a thing as a November surprise?

https://xcancel.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1852335609932587109 / https://archive.is/BuKfe

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Its less a surprise and more a reminder. Badly timed for Harris though since if it gains any traction it stands as the thing more recent in peoples memory.

 

[Lian Xing]

Is there such a thing as a November surprise?

https://xcancel.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1852335609932587109 / https://archive.is/BuKfe

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>bullshit jobs numbers
It is absolutely amazing to me in 2024, with multiple government agencies to which employers have to report employees earnings and employment eligibility (IRS, SSS, ICE), we can't know exactly how many unique people are employed at any given time or how many people have started new (to them) jobs.

Georgia was red last cycle. Then a leaky pipe busted down in Fulton and magically the state became blue. Given the same RINO shitheads are still in power in Georgia, I'll call it a miracle if the state goes red this year.

That's a totally fair assessment. I have been enlightened.

 

[The Ugly One]

It all really boils down to how close the defeat is for the democrats. If its close, expect the more moderate elements to retain power. If its a crushing defeat, expect the more radical elements to gain more control of the party.

If it's a crushing defeat, the woke will get mercilessly purged. A real hammering at the ballot box results in a party's more unpalatable elements heading out to the wilderness. Somewhat recent examples are George McGovern and Barry Goldwater. In fact, the whole reason the woke have risen is that the Democrats have felt invincible in the wake of Bush torching the GOP's credibility. It's when you think you can't lose elections that you let the retards take over.