US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

There's a lot of whining about women voters and blaming them for not voting Republican, but in 2020, in Pennsylvania Trump gained voters among women, and lost men. In fact men were the only group that he got less than 2016 for Pennsylvania.

2016/2020 Pennsylvania

 

[Necrosan]

Is this doom enough for yall?

I do like speculating what a Kamala win would look like and what it would entail, I don't think it's necessarily doomposting.

Especially with the rise in conflicts that we are having, how are the people going to respond if there is a draft after getting their election stolen again, and basically going back to being checked out of society?

If there was a way to simulate it, I'd be all over it, I know there are countries that can give you an idea of what it would look like but I'm still curious as to how the case would be in the US.

 

[Absolutego]

This is an interesting claim. Why would that be the case? For the same reasons you describe, a lot of the people who view abortion as a hard No (outside of medical emergencies) won't be a relevant demographic to any conservative parties, and by then the policy you'd be conserving is the states deciding. The indians or mexicans or whoever inevitably becomes 75% of the population also don't support abortion bans historically.

It's the socially conservative cause du jour and we're in the beginnings of a socially conservative backlash to the rainbow nonsense going on at the moment.
But women care for nothing more than the ability to have consequence-free sex (see: last 50 years of history), and nothing will rile up the cat ladies of the world more than the GOP actually trying to illegalize abortion instead of just kicking it to the states. Hell, even just localizing the issue turned abortion into an alarming amount of women's #1 issue on the ballot motivating their vote.

 

[Pascal's Wagie]

The Pro-Life end wanting a national abortion ban are going to be more of a hindrance to the party than the Never Trumpers.

These kinds of Evangelical spoilers are just crypto-Never Trumpers moving the goalposts after Trump handed them their biggest W they'll get this decade. They're the Jesus Rock Band, stadium church-goers with convictions as watery and fickle as their faith. Their millionaire pastors negging Trump on his displays of wealth and divorces (as they quietly one-up him on the latter). All of them too stupid, greedy, or lazy to do the realpolitik of getting the kind of abortion regulation they want in their state. It's not just the Democrats that grifted off federal involvement in abortion, it made a lot of money for scum on both sides.

 

[Caesar]

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I don't like a Christmas Eve where there's a 50% chance I get presents, and a 50% chance that those presents are taken away by the Grinch, who sets the house on fire, kills my dog, kicks me in the balls, and tells me it didn't happen.

That's why I'm mentally preparing for Trump to win in a landlside and then immediately announce gun confiscation.

 

[Verdun_Salient]

I won't lie, I am a bit nervous about tomorrow

 

[Uncle Buck]

Democrat Disaster

This is such a big hole that there is no possible way the Democrat E-day vote would make up for this. Democrats suddenly didn't get phobic of the post office.

The only real methods to vote for most people in PA is mail or E-day. They don't do in-person earlies and they purposely make voting absentee hard. The mail is not there. Not there at all.

If Democrats want to make this up there will be MASSIVE lines outside the polling stations in Philadelphia... and not just the Center City locations, but far away from downtown. And massive Democrat turnouts in Northeast Philly.... a place that has generally hated Democrats through most of its existence.
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That map appears to have multiple SW PA counties beyond Allegheny going blue; that does not seem realistic.

 

[whoishomermynameis]

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

That map appears to have significant portions of SW PA counties beyond Allegheny going blue; that does not seem realistic.

That's just denoting the early voting returns by party registration. All these areas probably lean D in early voting just not as much this year as they need.

 

[Absolutego]

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She was on board for almost all of that, her only regret is that they got found out.
Lewinsky isn't some victim of workplace harassment so much as an active participant in all of it who's sour it got made public.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

we used to be a country.

No, you used to be a little bit country and a little bit rock & roll.

 

[Calandrino]

After his last campaign stop today, Trump should rest for most of tomorrow until the polls close.

I thought surely we were pretty much done, then an innocent squirrel was assassinated and Kamala gifted Trump a primetime political ad for no reason. Here's hoping for more excitement before the winner is announced!

 

[Caesar]

She was on board for almost all of that, her only regret is that they got found out.
Lewinsky isn't some victim of workplace harassment so much as an active participant in all of it who's sour it got made public.

I just thought the community note was funny

 

[Nuns with guns]

The anticipation is like being a kid on Christmas eve.

 

[draggs]

That map appears to have multiple SW PA counties beyond Allegheny going blue; that does not seem realistic.

That's just early vooting by party registration, it is not voots for. It also doesn't show ballots by independents. Trump is winning independents. Not all Republican ballots will be for Trump, not all Democrat ballots will be for Kumala

Tomorrow all those counties in SW PA but Allegheny are gonna be red when all the voots are counted. Erie will end up red too

 

[The Last Stand]

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I bet she knows in the back of her hand that she was a one night stand for a prominent political figure that quickly went down South. She'll have to live with that for the rest of her natural life, while she develops Stockholm Syndrome for the establishment that protected her accuser.



That dress don't lie.

 

[Breadbassket]

The video I (and someone else) linked that a couple people didn't like is basically saying that voting is complying with a system where both sides are comped by Israel, and is just encouraging a shifting Overton window where the liberals of yesterday become the conservatives of today. This was once considered a cynical yet smart take until figures like Catboy arrived out of nowhere to repeat it while Roman saluting and bouncing on black dildos, thus making it unappealing.

The pro-Israel interests are concerning but it is difficult to remove them from American politics as it stands right now. Falling on the electoral sword in the short-term in order to somehow hope things work out in the long-term will have its own consequences many will not find ideal. Right now all it would do is embolden the politicians that hated Trump from the start and also be a setback in its own way.

As for the shifting Overton window where many conservatives always seem to hold the position liberals had on something 10-15 years ago that also its own issue.

It is something that has been observed since the 19th century:

“It may be inferred again that the present movement for women’s rights, will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent, Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is to-day one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will to-morrow be forced upon its timidity, and will be succeeded by some third revolution, to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt hath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it he salted? Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious, for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always—when about to enter a protest—very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop, that its “bark is worse than its bite,” and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent rôle of resistance. The only practical purpose which it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it “in wind,” and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy from having nothing to whip. No doubt, after a few years, when women’s suffrage shall have become an accomplished fact, conservatism will tacitly admit it into its creed, and thenceforward plume itself upon its wise firmness in opposing with similar weapons the extreme of baby suffrage; and when that too shall have been won, it will be heard declaring that the integrity of the American Constitution requires at least the refusal of suffrage to asses. There it will assume, with great dignity, its final position.”

From: Robert Lewis Dabney, “Womens’ Rights Women” (from his Secular Discussions, pp. 491-493)

The USA in many ways has as time gone on become more "progressive" in how it functions compared to how it was when it was founded. This quandary may have more to do with institutional control and influence as well as human psychology so it is something that cannot entirely be resolved by choosing to not vote for a candidate.

 

[Ethereal Eye]

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The way she viciously bashed on Christmas, god damn. She really is a living Grinch.

 

[DoomsdayElite]

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She was able to make a comfortabe career from sucking cock. No wonder she finds a kindred spirit in Harris.