Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Kate Farms Shill]

It definitely is training them with more effective excuses and language to use to manipulate others.

However, having known two total BPD cases before the advent of SM, they cannot hold jobs.

Yeah that's kind of the distinction I was making. There's real BPD which I absolutely believe is real and probably hell to treat. I've talked to a lot of people including some on this very forum who swear they are the good borderlines who go to treatment, totally unaware that all they're doing is using therapy to justify their behavior. My friend calls it "therapy masturbation" - they go to make themselves feel better about themselves, convince themselves they're not a problem anymore, while continuing to do exactly the same thing but it's okay now because they're really trying and using their coping skills and whatever therapy speak they can pull out of their asses on the fly. It also gives them a new way to play victim when you point out that's what they're doing. How could you be so horrible to them when they're really trying? They're fucking irredeemable.

Then there's a whole bunch of young women whose manipulative bullshit is being rewarded by social media who are getting diagnosed with BPD because they have the symptoms of that disorder, but who would be fine in the absence of social media.. those people do not have real BPD. They just have hugboxes they've built that won't tell them they're wrong and an unstable identity because they're trying to find what will get them the most followers. if those people get off social media and into a routine their symptoms largely disappear because IRL no one actually rewards that shit and your lies will either get ignored or called out eventually. If you tell your social media audience the boss is a pervert and out to get you because you don't want to sleep with him and that's why you're about to get fired, chances are good it's going to go largely unquestioned. If you say it to your coworkers, they know the boss is a normal guy and they know you're getting fired because you show up late and have a shit attitude.

Real life incentivizes you to lie in the opposite way. You want to keep your job? You don't tell your boss they're a slimy weasel you can't stand, you don't say anything controversial on social media, you don't tell your coworkers about problems in your personal life they can weaponize against you, and you don't feign helplessness for attention and asspats.

 

[RandallBoggs]

I share this belief. There have always been nightmare people but there are definitely more now. Social media creates a feedback loop that amplifies the tendencies whereas before society largely beat it out of people. Attention as currency is a good way of putting it. It literally trains them to behave poorly.

Also, in Ye Olde age, the only women who could afford to munch were upper class. And back then, in most cases you were either upper class or poor. There was no average comfortable middle ground like there is today. Munching is expensive, but you don’t need to necessarily have millionaire parents to leech from in order to pull it off.
These girls have no idea how good they have it. If they were a peasant farmer’s daughter in 1820, and refused to do any work claiming ridiculous problems like POTS, they’d be disowned. Why keep around another mouth to feed when they refuse to help with anything on the homestead.

I worked with a munchie who kept her stuff offline and mostly used it as a way to get out of doing any real work. Some notable things she did:
- acted like she couldn't eat solid foods for 2 years. Gained weight (she was around 5ft tall and probably the same diameter), never ate at work beyond ice cream and chocolate bars (they melt so are not solid). Everyone knew she was making it up.
- thought natural gas from eating fiber in her terrible diet was IBS.
- claimed to be incontinent for a while as a reason to hide in the back office all the time; she was using this to watch the nanny cam she had on her dog while at work.
- "broke" two fingers when a binder fell on her hand, had a forearm cast and a sling for months. Her doctor tended to play along with her BS.
- used her "broken" fingers as an excuse to get out of doing work that wouldn't even be affected by them. Years after they were broken.
- used an old foot injury she refused to treat (she had special shoes because of it and instead wore shitty, worn out sneakers) as an excuse to get pain killers
- claimed she had covid after burping once, took a two week paid vacation thag she bragged about online. Forgot the manager had her on facebook.
- was temporarily doing payroll and was on salary at that time. Would vanish for "heart problems" constantly, when asked for a doctors note she refused to provide one. Was demoted and no longer got paid for her time off, stopped having heart problems

There's probably more.

Sounds more like a malingerer IMO

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Also, in Ye Olde age, the only women who could afford to munch were upper class.

yep there's the other half. My favorite was Christine Millneaux/ Carrie Earl, our TB munchie visitor from 2019. She totally missed the part where most actual TB patients in the 1800s did not have the luxury of laying in their sick bed being tended to and having the sweat mopped from their brow. They worked. They worked until they dropped dead on the factory floor or they never woke up in their tenements surrounded by stacks of garment outwork that the family was relying on for income. Their surviving family was lucky not to end up on the streets picking rags or in a debtor's prison. Munchausen was a rich person's game. Now they can monetize their illness, apply for disability and HUD and medicare and get their boyfriends listed as their legal paid caretaker for extra gubmint bux.

She also missed the part where a lot of times "sanatarium" was code for "rehab." A lot of those "invalids" were alcoholics and morphine addicts who needed a nice two months in the san far away from their family's reputation to dry out.

What I genuinely think would help a lot of people - other than getting the fuck off social media where you're only as important as the likes on your last post - is a regular job. Because I think a lot of the problems young people have is they get their first few jobs and it's 20 hours a week, but you don't know what 20 hours. You never have enough money because they don't give you enough hours and you can't plan a life because you might always have Tuesday off but the one week you make plans on a Tuesday they'll schedule you. If you know you work 8-4 Monday through Wednesday you can at least find something else to do on your days off but you can't because your first job wants your schedule totally free so they can put you on whenever they need you. Even if you save every penny you earn you're not moving out because the landlord wants proof you make 3x the rent every month and your savings doesn't mean diddly squat. If you went to college and try to get a better job in your field, they want five years experience and how do you earn that when no one will hire you? So why bother? if all you're doing is running in place, why not stop running?

 

[PigFarm]

@Kate Farms Shill i love the "I'm not like other bpds" bpds.

They're either on an honest step towards recovery but haven't fully accepted that they're shitty yet.. or (and more likely) they've upgraded their manipulation with the aid of therapy instead of making any honest steps forwards.

I'd sub to a thread about the online ones that interject themselves in unrelated conversations to tell everyone how they're bpd "but....",

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

There was a guilty verdict in some baby murder case today, Leilani Simon. She was some of the purest, raw BPD I’ve seen off of SM in years.

Thanks for this rabbithole. I'm not much of a true crime enjoyer with a few exceptions, but I needed to know what was so terrible about her so I put on some of the trial footage as background noise.

I was kind of tuning in and out until I found out the drug user boyfriend who wasn't even the child's biological father was so convinced she did it that he let the FBI bug his motel room and his cell phone, fully aware they'd know everything else he did, just to try to figure out what the fuck she did to the baby. Holy shit.

TL;DW she had three babies with different men, all babytrap attempts. The first one's father was trying to get full custody of him after she intentionally overdosed in front of the child. Second child's father wanted her to abort and left when she didn't; multiple people testified that she resented the child for this and openly talked about how he should have been aborted, he ruined her life, etc etc. The third was an infant she had with the boyfriend who cooperated with the FBI, who was living with her and helping raise the other two kids at the time the middle child was murdered. There was also a new man she was fucking on the side who she'd sneak out in the middle of the night to see. The night the child was murdered she went on a drug binge and tried to pop in on the new man/drug dealer, but he wasn't home. Then she went home, killed her son, drove his body to a trailer park, and dumped his body in a dumpster. She initially tried to lie and say she just went out to get numbing gel for a toothache and went straight home but when the police told her they had her at a dumpster throwing away a bag of garbage she said the bag containing her son's remains was just "rotten shrimp pasta that was stinking up the car."

She still hasn't admit what she did to the baby, now claiming the drugs made her totally black out. They still have very little idea how she actually murdered him because all they found was bone fragments. She laughed and rolled her eyes through most of the trial and only cried when she found out she wasn't getting that special Casey Anthony treatment. And I only watched a few hours of footage, so I'm sure there's way more.

 

[tastelikeluckystrikes]

Late reacts incoming, but Rose puzzles me because it's so obviously fake and easy to disprove; the sheer number of photos she posts of herself in poses that would be absolutely impossible if she had the condition(s) she claims to have alone are enough, but everyone just seems to go along with it and never question her. Utterly bizarre.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Late reacts incoming, but Rose puzzles me because it's so obviously fake and easy to disprove; the sheer number of photos she posts of herself in poses that would be absolutely impossible if she had the condition(s) she claims to have alone are enough, but everyone just seems to go along with it and never question her. Utterly bizarre.

I think the tides are finally turning. I've gotten a few DMs from people who felt something was off about her and were led back to my posts and are now sharing them. I am more than happy to let these people know everything is fetish for her and if you read this thread you'll see her posting and confessing to things she's now denying.

I'm thinking of making a sharable reddit-friendly SFW-ish document they can pass around that goes through her long history of faking sick, how she deleted her original sick accounts to protect the fetish, and just in general why she's full of shit. But I tried that with Andie Proskus and no one wanted it - even if I didn't take credit or even acknowledge it, it was obviously traceable to my research therefore fruit of the poisonous tree.

But I won't lie, she's a big part of the reason I'm burned out on this right now and making no progress on my current series and I think it would be really fucking cathartic, even if it dies on my hard drive like the Andie one.

 

[OnionMuncher]

But I won't lie, she's a big part of the reason I'm burned out on this right now and making no progress on my current series and I think it would be really fucking cathartic, even if it dies on my hard drive like the Andie one.

So another reason to hate Rose. She's keeping the only forum on this site I check every day dry? She's the ginger, diaper wearing, beaver that dammed up the Delicious, Creamy, Kate Farms river?
For this, I cast sepsis on Rose for 3 DDLG coins.

 

[Endangered Species List]

Disney adults and munchies… the perfect pairing.

Shit never ends!!!

Spoiler: Letter

 

[Breadbear]

Shit never ends!!!
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Spoiler: Letter

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Ok yeah that's still not how ADA works but I'll be damned if it isn't funny watching them seethe

 

[Jimmy Dean Bowl]

Shit never ends!!!
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Spoiler: Letter

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Waaaah! I actually have to provide medical proof of my made up conditions to get to the front of the line.
Disabled genocide.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Oh, also, Allyson got bored and is busy working on a return to an inpatient treatment program and advertising her "anorexia relapse".

It’s crazy how most people who can provide proof of these conditions spend huge amounts of time learning how to cope and communicate, while the ones who can’t provide proof of diagnoses don’t try to cope. Really makes you think.

 

[InternetDramaFillsTheVoid]

Sjogrens is a very creative one to munch on, specially when it has a proper diagnostic procedure lol. The doctors just put a paper in your eyes and you are left to suffer there for minutes, then they see how many tears you've produced through markings on the paper. If your eye lubrification is normal you don't get diagnosed with it. There are also exams to measure salivary production. None of these exams are something you can manipulate to get a false positive.
And to even get considered for a diagnosis, the patient was most likely already diagnosed with another associated autoimmune disease, shit like lupus. I really want to know who put Sjogrens in her head to begin with.

Not only that, but essentially announcing to the world that not only do you have super dry eyes and dry mouth, but also super dry vagina.

Spoiler: Source:

I have Sjögren’s.

 

[Breadbear]

Not only that, but essentially announcing to the world that not only do you have super dry eyes and dry mouth, but also super dry vagina.

Spoiler: Source:

I have Sjögren’s.

You can disprove someone's Sjörgen's just by giving them a dry sandwich. They can eat it without chugging 2 liters of water? Congrats, no Sjörgen's.

Also sorry about your vagina.

 

[InternetDramaFillsTheVoid]

Also sorry about your vagina.

You and me both, friend.

 

[Kami Neko]

A wild Rose appeared on SFW normie Reddit and scared the shit out of me in the process.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RainbowEverything/comments/1gkkvrp/well_someone_had_to_add_some_color/

 

[a hapless toad]

A wild Rose appeared on SFW normie Reddit and scared the shit out of me in the process.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RainbowEverything/comments/1gkkvrp/well_someone_had_to_add_some_color/

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"I look great!"

No, you look like a retarded fucking clown, which is exactly what you are.

A dog molesting, predatory, abusive, malignant, lying, creepy, perverted, retarded fucking clown.

 

[Randomrando]

A wild Rose appeared on SFW normie Reddit and scared the shit out of me in the process.

The "legs open crotch shot" is really so obvious now, I'm sure if we could peek at her camera roll (when our collective vomiting ceased) 3 shots after this one she starts undressing and reveals the diaper.

 

[LonesomeDud]

Waaaah! I actually have to provide medical proof of my made up conditions to get to the front of the line.
Disabled genocide.

It's just such a wasted life.

A wild Rose appeared on SFW normie Reddit and scared the shit out of me in the process.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RainbowEverything/comments/1gkkvrp/well_someone_had_to_add_some_color/

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I spy a triple lumen catheter in her lap.

I love that for her.

 

[gampboonerisms]

A wild Rose appeared on SFW normie Reddit and scared the shit out of me in the process.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RainbowEverything/comments/1gkkvrp/well_someone_had_to_add_some_color/

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She looks like a Halloween mockery of a 70s black woman.