DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

Where is DSP?

  • He is in Connecticut visiting family/funeral

    Votes: 213 47.9%
  • He and Khet are on a honeymoon style trip

    Votes: 12 2.7%
  • He has an issue (s) with the HOA requiring immediate fixes

    Votes: 27 6.1%
  • Comcast/ISP/Internet Issues

    Votes: 16 3.6%
  • He is taking a Kino Casino style break by not announcing when he comes back

    Votes: 30 6.7%
  • Phil and/or Khet Health Issue

    Votes: 48 10.8%
  • This is a social experiment from DSP

    Votes: 99 22.2%

  • Total voters
    445
  • Poll closed .
I think the big difference compared to a few years ago is that he might've had really bad days with low viewers before but he definitely had far more actual "supporters" compared to now. If what people are saying is really accurate and it's only like 3 people propping him up right now then the reducing viewcount average + the fact he has less people giving meaningful "positive support" is very much cause for concern.

I don't think he'll do #dspolitics in the first place, so the idea that it might give a temporary boost is a moot point to begin with (by this, I mean him actually owning the concept and doing it with passion, effort and regularity - if he just does one or two #dspolitics streams then it doesn't even count).

I don't see any way he can obtain more dents ("open wallets") right now. People have warned him about this for ages though. The only way he can do an about turn is to become a regular guest on some podcast where he is not only welcome, but also fits in. But a "guest on a podcast" doesn't cut $100k/year in tips and subs, unless it is really a top like 5% of podcasts to begin with.

So in essence, these may actually be the end times for DSP.
He'll never do anything with passion or effort but I agree if he only did it occasionally when something big is going on it'd work to get extra views but I feel like if the first stream goes well he will try to milk it dry. He always seem to spam things that work once like it's an infinite money glitch and is always shocked when it doesn't last forever.
 
A guy at my work streams a few nights here and there and gets more than 170 viewers.

Yeah but can he extract more than $100k/year from them while rubbing it in their face that the uses the proceeds of it for a shitty, gay as fuck WWE gacha mobile game?

We all know the answer to this: no.

The only people who can get to the highly coveted $100k/year level are either ethots who make incels happy/fulfilled or also have an onlyfans or people with substantially higher viewership than DSP has.
 
The only people who can get to the highly coveted $100k/year level are either ethots who make incels happy/fulfilled or also have an onlyfans or people with substantially higher viewership than DSP has.
Yeah in terms of viewership in relation to income DSP is an absolute oddity. He should be making 300$ a month not a day. (though in reality it's more likely 230$ or so considering the deductions) And most ethots who make that much have bigger audiences or do also real cam girl work or as you said OnlyFans stuff. And even they work harder then this gout ridden fat fuckThough I wonder how long this ride will go. Unless he can attract another whale or two it might just reach the breaking point.
 
Yeah in terms of viewership in relation to income DSP is an absolute oddity. He should be making 300$ a month not a day. (though in reality it's more likely 230$ or so considering the deductions) And most ethots who make that much have bigger audiences or do also real cam girl work or as you said OnlyFans stuff. And even they work harder then this gout ridden fat fuckThough I wonder how long this ride will go. Unless he can attract another whale or two it might just reach the breaking point.

Dude there is a blue-haired chick on the newest season of Fishtank that is "reasonably hot" and only has like 10-100 followers. The days of just being reasonably attractive and getting a following because of that are fucking long gone. (I tried to use ChatGPT to recall this chick that had a hot ass backside and had a few low quality webcam shots in the early 00's and became "famous" without anyone ever knowing her true name/face as an example but ChatGPT is shit and this isn't the first time it has failed me on this kind of question)

Compared to even 3-5 years ago, any content creator today has to do something basically beyond exceptional to stand out from the crowd or have some true knowledge about a very niche subject that is of interest to enough people. There are those that get a few million views but the people that can do something and milk it for years afterwards (which is what DSP not only wants but actually needs) are incredibly difficult to achieve.

DSP doesn't have blue hair, isn't female, doesn't have a nice ass and doesn't have any esoteric wisdom to share with the world. I know you weren't arguing in your post that he has any chance of surviving, but the only reason whales tipped in the past was to "stick it to da trollz". The trollz are now more or less gone and the number of people who even care who DSP is are rapidly dwindling. DSP's entire existence is basically at the whim of the attention span of less than 10 people who actively contribute and people move on from boring shit quite rapidly. DSP has become boring.

I really don't see any way he can unsink this "permanently sinking ship" at this point in time. He might last a few more months like this, but as soon as one of his main supporters drops out or finds a new shiny thing to follow, DSP may well and truly be fucked. To do an about turn at this point he would have to garner some remarkable amount of attention with modern audiences. Even LTG (black DSP) managed to get a presenting job at a real life awards ceremony or some shit like that, DSP will never get something like that and even if he did get offered it he would refuse it.

Literally his only way out of this is to become a regular on Lolcow live or as a permanent KC guest, but I don't see either of those happening as he seems extremely guarded whenever he is a guest anywhere outside of his own channel.
 
I interpreted it as ATL not wanting to be cringe and make a big deal about Phil “finally noticing them”, or something of that nature. I think they’d leap at the opportunity for Phil to go on TBS, which I believe would be incredibly entertaining so long as Steve didnt end up trying to command the conversation and moralfag over stuff. Meerkat and ALT debunking Phil to his face would be a lot of fun imo
There's no need to think they'd have them on when they have said multiple times in the past there is an open door for Phil to come on for an episode
 
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Phil mentioned that he would only vote if he "lived in a swing state." and he mentioned that he always lived in areas that voted heavily blue. That's fucking rich coming from a guy that not only lives in a part of the U.S. that tilts heavily to the left. Eastern Washington, for those that don't know, is pretty right leaning and those residents HATE the fact that Seattle-Metro controls where Washington State goes.

Forever the fence sitter. Also, he said "Fuck the Democrats.", which we all know, Phil has had ties to the Republican party and was once a registered Republican during his time in New England. Why he didn't spend the extra few minutes to update his voter registration, that you can do online, well....he's a busy guy! Staying in KC's chat until 2-3AM HIS time, posting on Twitter at 4 in the morning, etc....where does he have the time? The man streams 6 days a week and spends one day with his prized Clydesdale, dood!

Basically, just when you think that he can't get any lazier, there's another rock layer.
 
Phil mentioned that he would only vote if he "lived in a swing state." and he mentioned that he always lived in areas that voted heavily blue. That's fucking rich coming from a guy that not only lives in a part of the U.S. that tilts heavily to the left. Eastern Washington, for those that don't know, is pretty right leaning and those residents HATE the fact that Seattle-Metro controls where Washington State goes.

Forever the fence sitter. Also, he said "Fuck the Democrats.", which we all know, Phil has had ties to the Republican party and was once a registered Republican during his time in New England. Why he didn't spend the extra few minutes to update his voter registration, that you can do online, well....he's a busy guy! Staying in KC's chat until 2-3AM HIS time, posting on Twitter at 4 in the morning, etc....where does he have the time? The man streams 6 days a week and spends one day with his prized Clydesdale, dood!

Basically, just when you think that he can't get any lazier, there's another rock layer.

We all know that even if DSP's absolute "perfect set of preconditions of participating in democracy" as he currently states them were matched, DSP would just spin a further, more elaborate and far more conditional set of prerequisites before he would ever consider actually voting ("I won't vote unless it happens on a Tuesday between the hours of 3:30-3:35PM via email only, because khet has to go to the doctor and costco closes at 11 PM!!!!").

Any actual 20-legged spider that casts literal webs of deceit that are designed to entrap unknowing insects would just stand in awe at whatever excuse he could come up with. He has never had any actual intention of participating in voting because he's fat and lazy and useless. He won't vote because he simply doesn't think it is worth his time, there's no real reason to read into it more than that.

He is basically the most solid argument for allowing voting online because then there is no real excuse he could fathom for not exercising his right to participate. But how to make that fair and verifiable is another matter entirely - I am sure if he had no excuse left he would attack the fairness of his potential vote in counting in the first place.

A lesser man would maybe just admit they were too fat and lazy to go to the polls, but DSP will never admit that in the first place because in his mind there is some set of magical conditions that are a prerequisite for everyone else to adhere to before he would even consider voting. DSP is perfect.
 
Sorry, but I have to give a bit of credit to Phil's "pendulum" theory, because this is what's going to happen.
He will continue streaming as he is for the rest of the year, coping about how everyone likes him and doing a few more KC collabs. Then he will start DSPolitics and just like the ReACKs, it will do well at first, Phil will act like he's become an expert because money = being right and then it will be boring. The most we'll get is some other mediocre lolcow politics show starting shit with Phil and then that will eventually die out without a big event.

Then, we'll see a bit of a struggle as Phil will inevitably piss off a whale and if his numbers don't get higher, we will see a consistent 100-150 viewers total (he will probably abandon Kick by then). Phil will only gain relevancy when he goes back to the classic loser mode where he begs and becomes desperate. Some big name will react to him, give him some temporary boost and the cycle repeats again. I think people just assume Phil will fade into obscurity, but I don't see that happening, because before that happens, Phil will grow desperate and get attention because someone is making fun of him. It's happened before and it will happen again. There's too many grifters on the internet, one will eventually laugh at Phil and start the cycle because Phil won't be happy with 100 viewers and just one whale doing everything, and even if he is, someone will eventually comment on that oddity.


I'm really looking forward to DSPolitics because Phil is quite possibly the most incurious person I've seen on the internet. We've seen this with the reacts and his gameplay, but Phil has absolutely zero interest in learning anything. Even his precious SF6 he couldn't be bothered to actually learn it, and every time something he doesn't get appears, he just says it makes no sense. He truly, truly hates learning anything because he just assumes he knows everything already, so every new thing he doesn't get is instantly nonsense that defies reality. Phil sees a puzzle and it's like seeing a glitch in reality for him, he can't even process the idea and moves along.

He's also a severly unintelligent person. We know Phil doesn't read, he's not someone who even knows basic concepts of economy (or whatever he studied in college). He's not the kind of guy to pick up a book, as much as he wants to act like he's this educated, street smart individual, he doesn't have either. He's not even close to the "code monkeys" he looks down upon so much, nor he has the discipline to sit and learn any concept that requires any sort of analysis. If he can't even be bothered to learn a mechanic on a videogame for children, what is he going to do when he sees a topic that requires a bit of knowledge of, say, the Constitution or how Congress works? We know the answer, and that's the beauty of it.

We also have that Phil is a complete hermit. Not even like a guy who doesn't go out much, this guy has no friends and no family to spend time with, he has zero human contact beyond Kat (and that's being generous) and he also has no idea how people live. He's spent the last 15 years completely isolated, and before that his social life was exclusively playing at arcades, so what kind of life experience can Phil use? If anything, we may get some new stories about his time at the helicopter company or have the same 5 stories re-used every time to illustrate a topic.

Not that there was any doubt, but DSPolitics will really, really expose just how utterly fucking dumb Phil really is. If he looks stupid when talking about a topic he should know, imagine him talking about topics he legit has no idea.
 
Some big name will react to him, give him some temporary boost and the cycle repeats again. I think people just assume Phil will fade into obscurity, but I don't see that happening, because before that happens, Phil will grow desperate and get attention because someone is making fun of him. It's happened before and it will happen again.

The biggest joke in all of this is, and I quote myself is that anyone who will even reach the extent of reading these retard-length analysis messages looking so deep into his current shit has fallen for the joke: DSP is the joke.

 
I think the big difference compared to a few years ago is that he might've had really bad days with low viewers before but he definitely had far more actual "supporters" compared to now. If what people are saying is really accurate and it's only like 3 people propping him up right now then the reducing viewcount average + the fact he has less people giving meaningful "positive support" is very much cause for concern.

I don't think he'll do #dspolitics in the first place, so the idea that it might give a temporary boost is a moot point to begin with (by this, I mean him actually owning the concept and doing it with passion, effort and regularity - if he just does one or two #dspolitics streams then it doesn't even count).

I don't see any way he can obtain more dents ("open wallets") right now. People have warned him about this for ages though. The only way he can do an about turn is to become a regular guest on some podcast where he is not only welcome, but also fits in. But a "guest on a podcast" doesn't cut $100k/year in tips and subs, unless it is really a top like 5% of podcasts to begin with.

So in essence, these may actually be the end times for DSP.
It's literally 4 people right now
IronChefOIC
Rend/Patric
DarkSydePimp
Adamdbz90s'man (there's currently no evidence that this guy isn't just an OIC alt)

With a few Dolphins:
Perrythewhite - Seems broke
(Guy who tips him under gross names)
ndo (although recent slip ups by OIC hint that current year ndo is OIC)
slayer
pwnage101
DarkSydeBepis (and a few other alt names)

So, we're kinda at the endgame I do believe and once a whale or 2 falls off (Patric and Pimp) we are gonna have some amazing panic streams.
 
It's literally 4 people right now
IronChefOIC
Rend/Patric
DarkSydePimp
Adamdbz90s'man (there's currently no evidence that this guy isn't just an OIC alt)

With a few Dolphins:
Perrythewhite - Seems broke
(Guy who tips him under gross names)
ndo (although recent slip ups by OIC hint that current year ndo is OIC)
slayer
pwnage101
DarkSydeBepis (and a few other alt names)

So, we're kinda at the endgame I do believe and once a whale or 2 falls off (Patric and Pimp) we are gonna have some amazing panic streams.
Now guys...support has been...*deep sigh* a little slow for a couple of days.
My wife is panicking. She accidentally lost a pound from a lack of doordash when we used water displacement at the nearby harbor to weigh her...things aren't good.
 
It's literally 4 people right now
IronChefOIC
Rend/Patric
DarkSydePimp
Adamdbz90s'man (there's currently no evidence that this guy isn't just an OIC alt)

With a few Dolphins:
Perrythewhite - Seems broke
(Guy who tips him under gross names)
ndo (although recent slip ups by OIC hint that current year ndo is OIC)
slayer
pwnage101
DarkSydeBepis (and a few other alt names)

So, we're kinda at the endgame I do believe and once a whale or 2 falls off (Patric and Pimp) we are gonna have some amazing panic streams.
Phil has always been able to run whales off, other than OIC who is beholden to him. He'll figure out a way to fuck up the Patric thing, which should be his cash cow (single absentee dad making parents/in-laws raise the kid, seemingly in love with DSP).

The biggest joke in all of this is, and I quote myself is that anyone who will even reach the extent of reading these retard-length analysis messages looking so deep into his current shit has fallen for the joke: DSP is the joke.
Sometimes getting the absurdity of Phil in words is necessary to just get a laugh, because when you try to apply logic to his actions, it's quite painful. The other joke is always DSP is the #1 DSP detractor.

Along that point...
He'll never do anything with passion or effort but I agree if he only did it occasionally when something big is going on it'd work to get extra views but I feel like if the first stream goes well he will try to milk it dry. He always seem to spam things that work once like it's an infinite money glitch and is always shocked when it doesn't last forever.
Towards the end of the podcast somebody asked if he'd do political reacts for international stories, and he seemingly loved that idea... basically repackaging the stupid clip show he does once a week but have it be for political videos or articles (the thought of DSP reading an article is pretty hilarious, although he'd just skim it on stream). He even mentioned that "I can't really do the work of curating things for a political show so I'll be reliant on the viewers".

So get ready for all the foreign dents to submit random weird ass videos about their countries. Yes Singapore is back on the table!
 
I really don't see any way he can unsink this "permanently sinking ship" at this point in time. He might last a few more months like this, but as soon as one of his main supporters drops out or finds a new shiny thing to follow, DSP may well and truly be fucked. To do an about turn at this point he would have to garner some remarkable amount of attention with modern audiences. Even LTG (black DSP) managed to get a presenting job at a real life awards ceremony or some shit like that, DSP will never get something like that and even if he did get offered it he would refuse it.
I always come back to what mutahar said a couple of years ago, "We all fall off, the lucky manage to maintain a small portion of the audience for life".

But this is just dead, I think the streak/support might start to die this week, I refuse to believe pimp has any money after gifting 100 subs to ppp yesterday, and the others might be getting bored of the rotation or also broke, refuse to believe adam has many more 100$ to give.
He truly, truly hates learning anything because he just assumes he knows everything already
A real job would actually, trully, kill him.

Better luck next time Linda, and as always, thanks for the money, dummy.
Phil has always been able to run whales off, other than OIC who is beholden to him. He'll figure out a way to fuck up the Patric thing, which should be his cash cow (
He somehow managed to get void to fuck off in I want to say a month?

The literal first paypig on kick he had, who, to nobodys request was spaming schedule offline, super dedicated to "felting the detractors" by almost giving 1k to him, even larping with that fag maxwell daily about how he was so tough for contributing despite the "abuse" - All he literaly had to do was pretend to be his friend and maybe play a single game of cod zombies with him, yet he couldn't even force himself to do the bare minimum.
 
He somehow managed to get void to fuck off in I want to say a month?
Think about this... it's been about 3 months with all the Kino stuff and all he managed to get was maybe 1 whale and a few minnows. Everybody else fucked off for one reason or another. He was gifted another person's finsubs and couldn't even keep them happy.
what channel is he gonna repurpose for dspolitics, and more importantly, what browser will he use for this one?
He's streaming on the same Kick channel and uploading on the Reacts Youtube channel...
Which of course begs the question, why are you uploading clips if you're scared of what Youtube would do?

(Truth - he finally found an exclusive Kick stream, that he will do when Kino isn't streaming, that will boost him over the average viewer numbers to get partnered)
 
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