Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[LORD IMPERATOR]

He does have a point
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He can always blame Tarkin and Vader for most of the war crimes, saying that they misled him and kept him in the dark.

 

[Sneedmiser]

Someone explained the reason shitty writers like him and Abrams's horsemen keep getting work is because they do as their told and incorporate all the executives' notes (like magic blood, which was huge in the early 2010s). Kinberg probably gets along with the bosses and kisses their asses.

On the other hand, (((Kinberg))).

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Anakin never killed himself because he wallowed in selfishness. His son’s belief in Anakin’s inherent goodness, his desire to protect others, that brought him back to the light side.

I like to think Anakin was too impulsive for his own good and it overshadowed his good intentions. The big thing for him was his hate of people close to him suffering. When Palpatine decided to fry Luke to death in ROTJ, he miscalculated and didn't realize Anakin as Vader would decide that he could not and would not watch his son die in front of him and that protecting Luke trumped his loyalty to the Emperor.

Pretty much the reason I found KF and started posting here in general is because this thread is one of the few Star Wars places that didn't like Filoni's work.

This was one of the few places people could make any sort of reasonable criticism of Disney Wars content and not be scREEched at or threatened with cancel culture.

I get where you're coming from and I can agree somewhat, but the best children's media also had appeal to adults.

If it was good, it would find ways to appeal to adults/parents and kids both. However...

Now do they have the writing skills to do this too? That remains to be seen.

... I'm not optimistic enough Disney writers can pull this off without being creepy or failing miserably.

We can talk about identity politics and all that stuff all day long, but for me, the top aspect of Disney Star Wars that just killed the brand is the sheer glut of content they've released.

I saw something on social media recently with every SW release proposed over the next two-plus years. I was surprised how much they want to release between now and then because it seems excessive even for Disney standards. Honestly, I think most of it might be delayed or outright cancelled with whatever ends up being released being the same underwhelming Disney Wars content we're all too familiar with here.

 

[Screamer_2]

Oh, another new trilogy in development... I won't hold my breath.

The guy has thanks credits of TFA and RO. So I assume they probably just brought in writers to give ideas, notes, punch ups etc on the films in the early days. He probably had some decent notes. They're just circling back to people they don't hate.

It just gets back to the fundamental issue with the sequels. THEY NEVER THOUGHT IT OUT AND PLANNED FORWARD. Or if they did it got fucking derailed by The Last Jedi. In what damn world would the sequels to Star Wars end up with Palpatine's grand daughter being the main character to rebuild the Jedi Order? It's beyond a joke.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Midnight's Edge brought up a good theory about this random trilogy announcement:

TL;DW - Kathleen Kennedy is trying to drum up excitement so she stays relevant. There hasn't been a Star Wars product that turned a profit since TLJ, over seven years ago even after spending hundreds of millions, possibly billions of dollars making streaming shows and failed movies. Mando & Grogu is going to at best break even or probably fail.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

There are too many things wrong with modern writing to really cover them all.

There are two primary issues with eveything since 2007:
Fags and New Hires.

Studios realized that they could just insert pro-fag messaging into a movie and it would have a built-in audience of retards that would watch it no matter how garbage it was otherwise.

This was combined with the fact that, previously, script writers would often work on Royalties or otherwise get some sort of piece of what they were writing. The studios realized that new grads wrote garbage, but they were too dumb to ask for royalties and would work on salary - working on salary meant the studios wholly owned everything the writers worked on.

Thus you get a bunch of retarded new hires who are coincidentally super excited to write pro-fag media, underpay them and quietly gut their rights to their creations and collect 70-80% of the money for half the work and headache.

There's more going on about how utterly garbage college writing programs are and the american "me me me" participation award education system is, and that's before you get into the deep conspiracy that China is purposely using their money to pozz western media to make it suck so bad China can take them out, but I don't feel like going into everything.

tl;dr: All is faggot.

the writer's strike back then did huge damage, Transformers 2 and stuff showed they literally don't need a script

What's the bet we get another fucking Life Day reference as a "deep cut" to Star Wars lore.

iirc the old EU incorporates pretty much all of the Holiday Special in bits and pieces, most importantly Itchy, Lumpy, and Mala

 

[Commander X]

I'm sure this will be as big as Rian Johnson and Beinoff/Weiss' trilogies. Kinberg is one of those people in the movie business who despite producing and writing various flops, keeps getting work, even though the closest he's been to being involved with a successful film is that sometimes he's been in the same room as more successful movie makers. His directorial debut, the aforementioned The 355 besides being a terrible film made $28m on a $75m budget. Obviously, this is a project that the higher ups have a lot of faith in.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I have no idea what The 355 is. Which goes to explain why it failed; the title doesn't communicate anything.

 

[Adamska]

This vaporware trilogy is literally only being mentioned to lie to investors to make them not bolt. Also Doomcuck is a 5th columnist copium huffing retard; Kennedy's in this until she drops dead IMO. It's to the point where I'm half jokingly thinking she refuses to step down specifically because she's actually trying to make the company collapse because she hates George that much.

How else does she unerring pick the shittiest people possible to make this dead and gay IP even deader and gayer?

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Star Wars Theory seems to have come to the light side, tho.

 

[Commander X]

I have no idea what The 355 is. Which goes to explain why it failed; the title doesn't communicate anything.

There was some obvious ahistorical BS about how 355 was the code name for was a female Colonial secret agent during the American Revolution, according to the makers of this film, which if you bothered to do even a bit of reading turns out to be completely fake, i.e. spun from a single line from one spy's letter to George Washington, though they didn't make it up themselves, it has been a persistent myth in American history, but the makers of The 355 did try to capitalize on it for #girlboss points.

Who Was Agent 355?

According to popular lore, a woman spy known only as Agent 355 helped George Washington win the American Revolution, serving as a key member of the Manhattan-Long Island intelligence network later dubbed the Culper Spy Ring.

There’s just one problem with this story: No proof of 355’s adventures in espionage actually exists. The sole mention of her in the historical record simply states that she was a lady—not necessarily a spy—who could help the Patriots “outwit them all.” Unfortunately, this lack of evidence hasn’t stopped authors and television and movie producers from inventing tales of her exploits. From a pair of 1930s books by historian Morton Pennypacker to the recent Jessica Chastain movie The 355, the legend of the woman agent represents a cautionary tale of how speculation and myth can permeate American history and become almost impossible to eradicate.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

There was some obvious ahistorical BS about how 355 was the code name for was a female Colonial secret agent during the American Revolution, according to the makers of this film, which if you bothered to do even a bit of reading turns out to be completely fake, i.e. spun from a single line from one spy's letter to George Washington, though they didn't make it up themselves, it has been a persistent myth in American history, but the makers of The 355 did try to capitalize on it for #girlboss points.

The whole #GIRLBOSS thing really is just the latest Hollywood fad. It has no real substantial contribution outside of making people hate female characters, in the same way affirmative action makes people hate minorities who cut the line.

Back then, people didn't have a problem with female leads. Samus Aran, Bayonetta, Wonder Woman, Black Canary, Lara Croft, the list goes on and on. But the problem with the #GIRLBOSS trend is, in the same way SJWs and Affirmative Action promote diversity, it's done so in a way that demeans the other side that they see as the majority. Just look at Star Wars. For Rey to rise, they had to make Luke Skywalker a failure. They don't know how to make a female character good other than making an established male character look bad.

Hell, look at Abby from The Last of Us. They tried to promote her and make Joel look bad, and have her kill the guy, and all it did was make people hate Abby, to the point where there's compilations of people willingly getting killed in the game while controlling her, so as to vent their rage against Abby and the writers.

Ironically enough, all they did was ensure that the people will not like female leads in media. It's funny. Back in 2010, society was more open to the idea of female leads; people were used to the usual buzz-cut space marine from the video game world, or the standard, white boi action hero from Hollywood, so a female lead would spice things up. But now? Now, people are so tired of that shit that they'd run and hide the moment a female action lead is announced, because they got so used to the #GIRLBOSS trend and the bad writing that went with it.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I miss Daala

I wish Disney never resurrects her

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

I miss Daala

I wish Disney never resurrects her

You fucking know that they'd make her a negress girl boss.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

You fucking know that they'd make her a negress girl boss.

And thus, the redhead genocide continues.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Daala really a red head as in the carpet matches the drapes?

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Daala really a red head as in the carpet matches the drapes?

Ask EU Tarkin.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Star Wars site in 2000 (ad blocker needed?):

Star Wars : Welcome to the Official Site (on archive.org)

Star Wars in 2000 - Web Design Museum

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Star Wars site in 2000 (ad blocker needed?):

Star Wars : Welcome to the Official Site (on archive.org)

Star Wars in 2000 - Web Design Museum

I miss the days when the official SW website promoted the SWEU.

 

[Gondolindrim]

A thought I've been having lately about the KOTOR remake is how the hell was it supposed to work? Disney's long since declared the Old Republic era as a no go for writers and they hate to acknowledge races and concepts that weren't introduced in the sequels. Were they planning to rename Tatooine to Jakku?