Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Haramburger]

I'm a member of the Junior League, if you don't know about the JL, basically we're an all-female organisation that's all about helping women gain leadership skills.

We're getting emails (weirdly coordinated) about trans women and if we accept them. It's all horrendous stuff they're sending. My chapter, in particular, is predominately 40-50-year-old women who have given their all to the Junior League, and now they're receiving the most hateful emails accusing them of purposefully excluding "their sisters" and being a "bitchy clique".

I don't really know what advice to give the membership officers. 123 years of empowering women, and now we might be forced to accept men. I feel hopeless.

Really interesting, post samples with redacted email addresses/names/other PI

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Are the lesbian pooners now outnumbered by the fujoshi pooners?

From Farms and irl samples my estimate is yes, by at least 4:1.

Another thread got me thinking about how the tranny menace has even ruined derelicts. Been a while since you could go to the Greyhound station and be surrounded JUST by junkies and winos, none of whom were ALSO troon perverts. Never thought I would find myself thinking "man, I miss hearing the incoherent ramblings of a good old fashioned drugged out hobo dude" but here we are.

 

[Topaz Eyes]

What a faggot, using his Bible degree to push trannyism. It sucks because I like his videos when he sticks to correcting misinfo and educating about the Bible, not pushing transgenderism.

https://preservetube.com/watch?v=QjnEziLlAto

 

[Izdaja Slika]

What a faggot, using his Bible degree to push trannyism. It sucks because I like his videos when he sticks to correcting misinfo and educating about the Bible, not pushing transgenderism.

https://preservetube.com/watch?v=QjnEziLlAto

It's true that the Bible has nothing to say about 'gender identity', because the concept was manufactured in the 20th century. This speaker is wrong, however, that sex is a spectrum, and he seems to be ignoring completely that 'male and female' God made them. It's somewhere early on in the Bible.

The Bible has plenty to say on cross-dressing men and women (Deuteronomy), and it ain't good.

As someone who grew up Catholic, I can tell you that Catholics believe that God created the world ex nihilo, that the Bible contains at least two resurrections (Jesus stole his own thunder by resurrecting Lazarus first), and Mary was assumed body and soul into Paradise. Yet among all the miracle work, I don't recall a single story or parable of a male turning into a female. Funny that.

 

[Red flaming panda]

Does anyone even know why people just gave into this shit. Why western society in the span of 10 years just come to attempt these complete degenerates? Why was there no real push back? Why did normal people just took the concept of chopping dicks off and thought "yeah, nothing wrong with that." Did people just get dumber?

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

Does anyone even know why people just gave into this shit. Why western society in the span of 10 years just come to attempt these complete degenerates? Why was there no real push back? Why did normal people just took the concept of chopping dicks off and thought "yeah, nothing wrong with that." Did people just get dumber?

I don't think there is a perfect answer, but a number of partial ones has been proposed:

1) The rise of the internet. The internet amplifies so much of this with its hugboxes and abundant access to disturbing pornography. Shut down the internet for 3 years, and the number of transitions would plummet. Social media and pornography is not good for people.

2) People becoming less religious. Many of the most fervent trannybelievers are non-religious, yet are consumed by the most zealous religious thinking. It also explains why troondom has infected the left more than the right. Many of neo-atheist science-lovers bought fully into the TWAW catechism.

 

[Dilatortron3000]

How can you clock a fully pubertally surpressed male?

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

I hate these younger-generation trannies. They are the most conceited ass motherfuckers I have ever met. So, I'm a lesbian through and through. There is no debate, I'm a woman that likes women. If a dick comes near me, it will die. So I'm in my WOS class talking about the tension between butch women and FTMs. It's a "either confused man or a confused lesbian' situation. No one likes each other AT ALL. I don't like Trannies, I don't care for them. Stay tf away from me, I don't need another one saying I'm a fucking man when I'm clearly not.
So these kids spend hours dancing around the core of the issue. Blaming white supremacy, capitalism, how expensive nurturing yourself is, the language used in the article, etc. The whole chic doing the presentation was a lily-white, pooner who is clearly a middle-class kid. Not an ounce of struggle ever in her life. Like I've never seen anyone grandstand so valiantly. I swore I was in a Monty Python skit.
So, I just went to the core of the issue and actually tried to lay it out for ppl. Like actually telling them about my life, and how important my identity is to me. Bitch, the teacher hit me with every bullshit thing in the book. Like apparently, me telling my family I'm gay is telling them who I fuck now. Mind you, this was from a gay, Korean man married to another man.
I shouldn't get so fucked up over it, but damn it kinda hurt. Not just because they disregarded my whole lived experience but because none of these ppl cared about jack shit. For fuck sake, one's a psych major encouraged ppl to live a double life and lie. That's literally the most damaging thing you could say to a gay person EVER. Like not a one-semester lesbian or a troon, but a legit gay person. Bro, I got the fuck out of there, because I was not wasting three hours on bs.

 

[Topaz Eyes]

How can you clock a fully pubertally surpressed male?

This has been discussed in the Jazz thread. Jazz and Kim Petras are both masculinizing with age, despite having their puberties suppressed.

 

[Stupid Lisa Garbageface]

Does anyone even know why people just gave into this shit. Why western society in the span of 10 years just come to attempt these complete degenerates? Why was there no real push back? Why did normal people just took the concept of chopping dicks off and thought "yeah, nothing wrong with that." Did people just get dumber?

Because most people don't get what's going on. Gay marriage and acceptance has become broadly popular over the past couple of decades, and the average person thinks that being trans is just Gay, Level 2.

AGPs versus HSTS, fujoshi pooners, neogenders, whatever dumb shit Tumblr's cooking up right now, and the reality of what sex change surgery actually looks like, that stuff does not permeate most people's consciousness (god I wish that were me.) People are finally starting to hear about men in women's sports and prisons and so the backlash is only just beginning, but troons gained a lot of cultural ground simply by hiding under the LGB umbrella for as long as they did.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Normies' perception of a troon is (or was, until recent years) that of a silent, awkward and outwardly innocent looking Elrike, who used to be Heinz, still an accountant at their company (They just did not see what's on the hard drive at his home).
Which figures with the shite troons in media say, that is, they somehow are the most unfortunate and mentally tormented demography that ever walked the face of Earth and they just want to live their lives peacefully. Until, fast forward, troons started to swear they will come for the children, they just weren't a thing in normie lives.

Another thing is, that one can express support for troonery endlessly for years and in many places, and the activists do that, they infiltrate everything, build their network and then it's late. But those who criticize it under their own fb name or a doxxable nickname, well, that's a mistake the most of people (and women in particular) only do once. Critics are scared of the aggressivity.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

AGPs versus HSTS, fujoshi pooners, neogenders, whatever dumb shit Tumblr's cooking up right now, and the reality of what sex change surgery actually looks like, that stuff does not permeate most people's consciousness (god I wish that were me.)

These people literally treat surgery like a drive-through. I’ve seen people more against it because it expensive, and not the fact that it’s an invasive surgery. They’re literally going to mutilate their genitals and regret it for the rest of their short lives
Because shocker sex and bodily functions is important to them. Now they’re stuck with a permacath and a chronic pain, because the couldn’t bother to avoid another butcher running around.
If they weren’t going to kill themselves then, now would be a good time. It’s better to go out before they realize heavy pain medication isn’t even going begin to touch the pain they’re going to go through.

 

[Meat Target]

Gay marriage and acceptance has become broadly popular over the past couple of decades, and the average person thinks that being trans is just Gay, Level 2.

Obergfell v. Hodges opened the floodgates for the normalization of every type of sexual perversion and deviancy. Anyone who objected was vilified and shouted down as an intolerant bigoted meanie.

I once said: Truetrans is about replacement (snip)

Interesting take, but they may also just want to distance themselves from the trans community's retardation, while still indulging in their own AGP. Even trannies have outliers from the usual freaks we laugh at here.

Right-leaning troons like Blaire White and Brynn (Brandon) Kellett come to mind. White does the "not like the other troons" schtick you mentioned, while Kellett just straight-up denies it and goes to great lengths to hide it. He also smokescreens it indirectly, such as telling politically incorrect jokes, even about his fellow fags and troons.

Whichever one they are, they're taking advantage of the fact that most people just wanna live and let live. They also know there's a market for token conservative minorities who will Own the Libs.

I generally don't care what people do in their sex lives, unless they try to foist it on other people. Be polite and respectful only to these precious few trannies who, despite their perverted proclivities, seem otherwise normal (as normal as a tranny can be).

Even then, be on your guard. Troons love taking a mile when you give them an inch. Don't take them at their word that they're "not like the other troons". Don't let them into your circles unless you are certain they will behave themselves. The number of them who meet this criteria is microscopic.

 

[Sped Bundy]

My social circle is pretty pozzed and I'm growing increasingly tired of their alacrity to shit on religion (Christianity in particular, go figure), to write religious people off as idiots with no critical thinking skills who literally believe in fairy tales. Meanwhile they're all in on the trans bullshit. I'm not even religious whatsoever but it's incredible to me how arrogantly the pot is calling the kettle black. It takes a serious lack of awareness and intellectual honesty to laugh at the metaphysical stuff in the Bible and then turn around and wholeheartedly bleat that men can be (and truly are) women if they just believe hard enough. These people have no business calling other people idiots for believing the obviously impossible. The hypocrisy is bewildering.

There's no way in Hell the events in the Bible actually happened, but plenty of religious people agree to some extent and point to the fact that behind each story are lessons and insights regarding how to live a morally sound life. Not all of it is good advice, but plenty of it is solid and no one is living by the Bible down to the letter anyway. A lot of it is about how to treat other people well. Trans ideology, on the other hand, encourages its adherents to treat others around them like absolute shit.

The ideology demands that it be prioritized over everything, including personal relationships and people's livelihoods, both of which are routinely blown up due to dissidence. These people hoist themselves up as morally superior yet goodwill from them is conditional; if you disagree with their beliefs, be ready to be disowned or have your livelihood threatened. And they will claim it's for the greater good too. Moral my ass.

Comparing trans ideology to mainstream religion is nothing new but it's always worth mentioning that trans ideology is worse.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

The ideology demands that it be prioritized over everything, including personal relationships and people's livelihoods, both of which are routinely blown up due to dissidence. These people hoist themselves up as morally superior yet goodwill from them is conditional; if you disagree with their beliefs, be ready to be disowned or have your livelihood threatened. And they will claim it's for the greater good too. Moral my ass.

What does me in is the fact that they want to dismantle the “binary” way of thinking about sex and gender, but they just want implement a similar one immediately. They sit there and say that gender is a social construct—which is fair—but then treat it as inherent. Every single one of these ppl rely heavily on gendered fashion and mannerisms. Pooners say they’re men, but constantly show off their cleavage and dress in the most infantilizing/hypersexual ways. However, if someone dresses more masculine and they’re a women, they shit themselves because they aren’t “queer”. More or less, they’re not even a good cult. They’re a more pathetic version of the turtle cult in RDR2. At least they had heart. These ppl are just a special needs rendition of the Shortbus movie.

 

[Wallace]

These people literally treat surgery like a drive-through. I’ve seen people more against it because it expensive, and not the fact that it’s an invasive surgery. They’re literally going to mutilate their genitals and regret it for the rest of their short lives
Because shocker sex and bodily functions is important to them. Now they’re stuck with a permacath and a chronic pain, because the couldn’t bother to avoid another butcher running around.
If they weren’t going to kill themselves then, now would be a good time. It’s better to go out before they realize heavy pain medication isn’t even going begin to touch the pain they’re going to go through.

Troons will always have this problem, because getting decent healthcare means they have to be honest about the effects of their transitions, and that's transphobic.

 

[Cronchyapple]

Note: I already posted this in the srs surgery thread but I realize it fits this thread better.

I need to get this out of my head. Ignore any shitty grammar issues or typos. I’m running on little sleep and I’m trying to buy a house. This website is the only one that allows me to speak my mind.

I realize this entire situation is the evolved version of the opioid crisis. Here is the thing: everyone has felt pain before. It’s a human, no biological, neurological reaction. When the big pharmaceutical companies got caught red handed with crooked doctors everyone understood what was wrong. The big pharmaceutical companies went oh fuck - how do we make profit? How do we move past this? Take on the profit loss? Our investors won’t be happy and we *need* to make them happy or else we are all out of a job.

Here is where gender dysphoria comes in. This is a nebulous and spectrum/continuous variable (not discrete aka yes you have cancer or no you don’t have cancer) “illness” that is purely psychological in nature.

Pain isn’t psychological - it’s neurological and *everyone* has experienced it one way or another.

So back to the dysphoria - those that experience it already have a multitude of comorbidities (multiple diagnoses) that are all mental in nature. They already take multiple medications and make profit for their investors from these mentally ill customers. The average person won’t be able to wrap their heads around this concept and that plays into the pharmaceutical industry’s hand.

So pharmaceutical companies are closely tied to doctors, surgeons, researchers, etc. and they loosely see the dominos being set up that begins with mentally ill gay people (which historically are more mentally ill than straight people - I can add citations if requested) and ends with profit.

Especially plastic surgeons - they have been dealing with mentally ill people that want to change their face, and their body before the trans community we know of existed. The body modification industry is profitable and not covered by insurance.

Pharmaceutical companies needed to adapt - overcome - and find someone PROFITABLE. They need a new cash cow and mentally ill gay people is wagyu beef compared to the average person becoming more health conscious and less willing to pop a bunch of pills.

I know I’ve said it before and others have as well but this entire situation is the same as crack being pushed into black communities in the 1980’s by you know who but for the gay community with the backing of crooked scientists and so called researchers. And the cherry on top is the social justice aspect with activists, non profits, media, and law firms all wanting a cut. Who doesn’t want to help a minority? Everyone was late to jump on the gay rights movement (think bitcoin) and now they want to jump on the transgender train (random shitcoin) to feel like a good person on the right side of history (make a shit ton of profit).

Let me know if none of this makes sense - I’m being driven insane by my realtor and I need an escape lol.

 

[Sped Bundy]

Trans "healthcare" and the opioid crisis are similar in that the name of the game is pharma companies aiming for maximum profit with no regard to how people on the other end of the stick are impacted (in fact, more damage often means more profit down the line). They're both blaring medical scandals that mess up shitloads of lives, but that doesn't make them the same.

The main harms of the transgender movement come from what the movement imposes on society. If "gender affirming care" were just a matter of people fucking up their own bodies (no grooming, no trooning out being trendy, no troons trying to blow up everyone who disagrees with them, etc.), it would still be a medical scandal but would not be the hot-button issue it is. There is no push to put children on opioids for frivolous reasons, and there is zero risk involved with speaking out against the opioid crisis. Women's spaces being invaded and language being erased are objectives of the transgender movement; the opioid crisis has no parallel to this. The opioid crisis is terrible for society but is not backed by a widespread ideology that threatens society itself on behalf of deranged, entitled narcissists.

It's also worth noting that troons do not become physically dependent on their estrogen shots. People often become addicted to opiates after needing to use them to manage unmanageable levels of pain. On the other hand, troons pursue totally unnecessary "interventions" not only voluntarily but intentionally, with each HRT shot and cock chop being a purposeful step towards a goal. It's all about curating an image, and there's even abundant advice out there on how to convincingly lie to doctors in order to get hormones or whatever ASAP. It's easy to get on the fast track anyway, though, considering how little HRT is gatekept nowadays. Just look at how many troons claim they were able to get a prescription after a 15-minute "consultation".

Both create junkies. One cohort is dependent on drugs (and yes this creates problems). The other is dependent on constant affirmation, validation, and society bending over backwards to let them do whatever they want. Trans people are not getting fucked over by getting hooked on powerfully addictive drugs. They are willfully fucking up their bodies in the pursuit of totally external and totally impossible ideals. I feel for the ones who get groomed into this shit, but ultimately this is something that plenty of people are willfully imposing on themselves.

 

[FinnSven]

2) People becoming less religious. Many of the most fervent trannybelievers are non-religious, yet are consumed by the most zealous religious thinking. It also explains why troondom has infected the left more than the right. Many of neo-atheist science-lovers bought fully into the TWAW catechism.

One thing related to this, while not exclusive to trooning out, I suspect it doesn’t help!

The thing is that religion, particularly Christian denominations, comes with a local holy man or people.
Priests and vicars are especially important in that many people could use them as a person to get advice from upon matters that they don’t want to speak about to family, employers, friends, with the guarantee that the priest or vicar will give the advice and keep their mouth shut.
It helps a lot of people to have a dependable caretaker of a community, be it spiritual caretaking or just because they have a dilemma and have things in their lives to loose if they talk to their spouse or friends.
Priests and vicars can also just call on people and would if a young man or an elderly widow was not seen for a few days, for instance.

I am sure a lot of these men who troon out expecting wives to become a “lesbian” and children to call him mummy, had they spoken to a vicar beforehand, they might have thought twice.

Secular and atheist societies just don’t really have that gap filled by a locally reasonably respectable moral grounded trusted advice and guidance figure.

 

[rapecel]

What a faggot, using his Bible degree to push trannyism. It sucks because I like his videos when he sticks to correcting misinfo and educating about the Bible, not pushing transgenderism.

https://preservetube.com/watch?v=QjnEziLlAto

He's a Mormon. You should meet whatever he says about the Bible with great skepticism.