Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Arpharp8976Fire]

I've come across the "detrans" community on Tumblr basically a bunch of women (FTMs) who get off to being told they aren't trans. It's weird how many ftms have huge tits

 

[Susanna]

I've come across the "detrans" community on Tumblr basically a bunch of women (FTMs) who get off to being told they aren't trans. It's weird how many ftms have huge tits

I think it makes perfect sense. Pooners are unhappy with their lot as women, at least in part because women get sexually harassed, and men are obsessed with tits so the bustier you are, the more you’re going to get sexualised.

 

[Arpharp8976Fire]

I think it makes perfect sense. Pooners are unhappy with their lot as women, at least in part because women get sexually harassed, and men are obsessed with tits so the bustier you are, the more you’re going to get sexualised.

It's probably them regretting the trans decision and feeling sexier as a woman rather than ""male""

 

[Dilatortron3000]

How many honest to god trannies even exist in the world? When I say "honest to god" I mean guys like Pads or the very rare old school type fucking weirdos that use to be a thing amongst faggots. It can't be more than what, a few thousand?

There is no true tranny. Gender dysphoria isnt a medical condition its a vague and nonspecific diagnosis that has always been controversial. Think of transitioning as a strategy

 

[ilovecornsyrup]

Does estrogen age men?

I know a lot of agps are autistic and don’t care for their skin and apply makeup poorly and that contributes to it. Drug use, poor lifestyles in general, too, I guess. But I keep coming across troons who seemingly honestly write their age as 25-30 but look about 45.

This pic was shocking to me for instance. Bad fillers, makeup, and surgery I guess? But 24? This dude looks almost 50.

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I think it's the fact that they're pretending to be women. Men can have prominent cheekbones, hollow cheeks, sharp jaw, thin lips etc and look their age, but a woman with those features would look older. If he cut his hair, stopped plucking his eyebrows and dressing like a clown he would look like a normal guy his age. Well, maybe not anymore now that he cut up his face.

There is that crazy 50 year old CEO guy obsessed with staying young and he puts estrogen cream on his face because allegedly it's supposed to make both men and women look younger. Judge the results (or lack of) yourself.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

When you strip away the layers of weird fetishes and autism all Troonism and Poonism really amounts to is a hyper fixation on how others perceive you. Examples of gender dysphoria provided by said troons and poons (almost) always factors in the gaze of the other. Contrary to much of their rhetoric regarding reasons for transition it always boils down to how others perceive them. When they "beat" dysphoria its only because they've successfully gaslit themselves into believing they pass; of course this all comes crumbling down the moment they're miss'd or sir'd.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

I am surprised trannies haven't tried it with Henry Darger and/or the Vivian Girls, yet.

He’s not sexy or controversial. If they say “Henry Darger was one of us!!!” the response would likely be, “Well, he does seem to have had difficulty understanding sex, so I can see why you’d think that.”

Claiming Kurt Cobain is more likely to annoy people and thus get their attention.

There is no true tranny. Gender dysphoria isnt a medical condition it’s a vague and nonspecific diagnosis that has always been controversial. Think of transitioning as a strategy

I used to think there were true trannies. But the more I see of them, the more I think that the difference between “real” and “fake” trannies is just the level of delusion. The fake ones are lying to everyone else, the “real” ones are lying to themselves.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

I am surprised trannies haven't tried it with Henry Darger and/or the Vivian Girls, yet.

He’s not sexy or controversial. If they say “Henry Darger was one of us!!!” the response would likely be, “Well, he does seem to have had difficulty understanding sex, so I can see why you’d think that.”

Claiming Kurt Cobain is more likely to annoy people and thus get their attention.

I think it's a bit simpler than that.

People know who Kurt Cobain is.

I had to Google Henry Darger.

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And, to be honest, he sounds like a bit of a nonce, going by his Wikipedia page.

 

[AMHOLIO]

There is that crazy 50 year old CEO guy obsessed with staying young and he puts estrogen cream on his face because allegedly it's supposed to make both men and women look younger. Judge the results (or lack of) yourself.

Mark Zuckerberg faced Batemanmaxxxing.

 

[Ol' Chunk O' Coal]

I've come across the "detrans" community on Tumblr basically a bunch of women (FTMs) who get off to being told they aren't trans. It's weird how many ftms have huge tits

Yeah, it's fucked. There is a genuine detrans community on Tumblr but it gets vasty overshadowed by people that are into the forced detransition fetish. IMO Detrans kink havers are one step away from actually detransitioning, I think they actually want to detransition on some level but are too scared to make the jump. Feels bad for any actual detransitioner having to sift through that shit to find legitimate detrans support content.

 

[TruffleSpark]

When you strip away the layers of weird fetishes and autism all Troonism and Poonism really amounts to is a hyper fixation on how others perceive you. Examples of gender dysphoria provided by said troons and poons (almost) always factors in the gaze of the other. Contrary to much of their rhetoric regarding reasons for transition it always boils down to how others perceive them. When they "beat" dysphoria its only because they've successfully gaslit themselves into believing they pass; of course this all comes crumbling down the moment they're miss'd or sir'd.

This is the biggest thing people don't understand about troonery. It's not actually about thinking you are the opposite sex to what you are, it's about wanting other people to think it. Troons don't actually think they are women, they are just hyperfixated on wanting others to perceive them as women.

 

[FiveStarAce]

Identity, personality and behaviour. What if personality is derived from your behaviour and not the other way around, and behaviour is the result of conditioning?

I might be a little deep into zen-bullshit atm, but isn't a persons identity completly virtual?

 

[nothing outside the text]

Excellent point! Amazing point! Yep, I remember. Nothing says “genuine civil rights movement” quite like the freaks on 4chan’s /tttt/ board laughing about how small a vigil for Berns was. Even though it was on another continent than the one she lived and died on.

I actually had no idea about 4chan's /tttt/ board or weird youtubers; can't say I'm particularly surprised tbh. I was mainly thinking of the respectable Be Kind™ crowd on twitter, like for example "Rachel" McKinnon:




You know you've crossed the line when even Harrop thinks you might want to consider toning down all the gloating.

Of course, McKinnon wasn't the only one.

Spoiler: More twitter creeps

 

[Aquarius]

I actually had no idea about 4chan's /tttt/ board or weird youtubers; can't say I'm particularly surprised tbh. I was mainly thinking of the respectable Be Kind™ crowd on twitter, like for example "Rachel" McKinnon:

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You know you've crossed the line when even Harrop thinks you might want to consider toning down all the gloating.

Of course, McKinnon wasn't the only one.

Spoiler: More twitter creeps

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Well, being a sadistic freak was always Rhys’s default. Glad to see he’s consistent and honest despite his paper defending the ethics of lying.

In karmic news, did you know that exogenous estrogen and testosterone artificially increase your rates of cancer? Or that puberty blockers cause IQ drops? And brain swelling? Wow, I guess trannies will copy whatever a woman does. Good.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

Or that puberty blockers cause IQ drops?

It's good to know we get scientific confirmation that troons are, in fact, as stupid as we think they are!

 

[Arpharp8976Fire]

Yeah, it's fucked. There is a genuine detrans community on Tumblr but it gets vasty overshadowed by people that are into the forced detransition fetish. IMO Detrans kink havers are one step away from actually detransitioning, I think they actually want to detransition on some level but are too scared to make the jump. Feels bad for any actual detransitioner having to sift through that shit to find legitimate detrans support content.

They get off on being a "fake" guy / girl

 

[Dilatortron3000]

Why do some very obviously gay men (HSTS) later come out as lesbians
For example mr “my choice to be a woman makes me more woman than most women out there”
Gigi gorgeous

https://youtu.be/4HclVrFsAnY?si=eogO7IqPQc0hM00S

 

[AMHOLIO]

Why do some very obviously gay men (HSTS) later come out as lesbians
For example mr “my choice to be a woman makes me more woman than most women out there”
Gigi gorgeous

Being a straight woman means they lose their "gay" status, and they cling onto that identity when they have no personality of their own. Gigi would likely date a fellow HSTS rather than an actual woman, however.

 

[soup peddler]

I've come across the "detrans" community on Tumblr basically a bunch of women (FTMs) who get off to being told they aren't trans. It's weird how many ftms have huge tits

It's misogyny the whole way down. They view women as sex objects to be degraded, so they acknowledge they're women when they're horny and getting off on it, but want to leave sexism behind and be men once they're done cooming. Like everyone already knew, they're immensely self-hating women.

 

[Jacques1194]

The truscum vs tucute debate should have been the nail in the coffin that being trans for most of these kids were just a trend because again, if you have no dysphoria and don't really plan on doing anything in terms of transitioning then how would the trans community know if the person is being genuine? The bizarre thing about tucute is that if you ask a non binary woman (who does nothing in terms of transitioning) why she doesn't see herself as a girl, its either she doesn't want to be seen as one (which would prove she has some sort of dysphoria and proves the truscums right) or she claims that's how she sees her gender. The weird thing is that if you engage with her about why she sees herself as that then it'll boil down to "Not like other girls." and if you point out all the girls who still identify as girls and do the things that she claims doesn't make her one then she'll some how claim its different. Tucute makes 0 sense because you would have to have some level of dysphoria just for the simple fact of wanting to transition into the oppose sex.

I'm thinking about this more and its making me wonder about the motte and bailey TRAs use with sex and gender being different, but then turn around and claim that they're changing their sex. I wonder if the reason trans people do this is because they know sex changes are impossible and so they need to claim that they aren't stupid enough to think they are changing their sex, so they change it to gender. On the other hand, they also know that this forces them to then having to explain what gender is and we all know that they'd basically be claiming sexist stereotypes which they also know would make them lose the debate. Who was it here that said that trans people do this because the confusion only benefits them?