Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Dilatortron3000]

Are there any cases of fully pubertally surpressed females put on testosterone?

 

[Paper Machete]

Are there any cases of fully pubertally surpressed females put on testosterone?

If I'm not mistaken T use will stop/damage natural production by itself so pooners usually just get started on T. Blockers would do less for them than they do for troons because it would likely make them even smaller and more fragile.

 

[The Decimator]

Not sure where else to put this, but does anybody know why Undertale turns people into trannies? I've known people that inexplicably decided they were trannies as soon as they became obsessed with Undertale.

 

[Dilatortron3000]

If I'm not mistaken T use will stop/damage natural production by itself so pooners usually just get started on T. Blockers would do less for them than they do for troons because it would likely make them even smaller and more fragile.

Dont they want to prevent breast and hip growth

 

[bad at usernames]

Not sure where else to put this, but does anybody know why Undertale turns people into trannies? I've known people that inexplicably decided they were trannies as soon as they became obsessed with Undertale.

Probably the autist to tranny pipeline, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone into Undertale that wasn’t at least on the spectrum. Not to mention the fandom is degenerate at shit, I mean you can’t really expect people who like to draw giant glowing skeleton dicks to be sane individuals. Wherever there’s an outlet to be a deviant, trannies flock to it because it lets them express their true intentions; and when you combine that with a vulnerable young autist who doesn’t understand that people might be trying to coerce them into degeneracy it makes them want to convert to transgenderism too because it’s an ‘in-group’ type of situation where they circlejerk eachothers autism. Then they go down the rabbit hole of degeneracy to the point of no return. Not to mention the lack of any real human characters would make it easier for them to dissociate from reality if they’re fixated on it. Basically the groomed becomes the groomer type shit.

 

[Helvetia]

I'm a member of the Junior League, if you don't know about the JL, basically we're an all-female organisation that's all about helping women gain leadership skills.

We're getting emails (weirdly coordinated) about trans women and if we accept them. It's all horrendous stuff they're sending. My chapter, in particular, is predominately 40-50-year-old women who have given their all to the Junior League, and now they're receiving the most hateful emails accusing them of purposefully excluding "their sisters" and being a "bitchy clique".

I don't really know what advice to give the membership officers. 123 years of empowering women, and now we might be forced to accept men. I feel hopeless.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

I'm a member of the Junior League, if you don't know about the JL, basically we're an all-female organisation that's all about helping women gain leadership skills.

We're getting emails (weirdly coordinated) about trans women and if we accept them. It's all horrendous stuff they're sending. My chapter, in particular, is predominately 40-50-year-old women who have given their all to the Junior League, and now they're receiving the most hateful emails accusing them of purposefully excluding "their sisters" and being a "bitchy clique".

I don't really know what advice to give the membership officers. 123 years of empowering women, and now we might be forced to accept men. I feel hopeless.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Take every single crude piece of e-mail, highlight every ignorant fucking message (cuss words and all), and have it locked and fucking loaded for whoever's ready to run their mouth.

Tell the office if people try to pressure them to take trannies:

- they are not taking current members due to safety concerns due to said threatening emails. This is why you will hand those emails out, like church brochures.

-Place blatant criteria on age ranges for members. These men are way too old to be there and only want to be fucking creeps.

-These men need to be sponsored by two current members to even be considered

-They/all members MUST undergo social media/legal background. The latter if need be, because a majority of them are sex offenders.

Don't ever take any shit from these pricks. They don't give a fuck about no one. If this is the JL I'm thinking of, they don't do charity work. They hold their greasy little hands out for your hard work and time.

Fuck these faggots, and the women they fell out of. Because those are the same bitches that coddled their autistic asses to being parasites on womanhood and society.

 

[Helvetia]

Fuck these faggots, and the women they fell out of. Because those are the same bitches that coddled their autistic asses to being parasites on womanhood and society.

It does very much feel like they only want to be members because its an all female organisation. Someone even mentioned they only wanted to join because they'd seen Betty Draper from Mad Men as part of it and wanted to look like her.
I'll draft your comments into something less likely to give Mary, 65 a heart attack and hope for the best. Thank you fren

 

[dfranki723]

It does very much feel like they only want to be members because its an all female organisation.

I'm pretty sure they sniff out female only spaces like bloodhounds, they must be allowed to insert themselves into everything that involves even a hint of (biological) womanhood.
I normally point and laugh at degeneracy but then I remember it is actually affecting real people and it's not quite as funny anymore. They truly are a plague. I hope your organisation can survive the cavernous hole-having horde and remain female only.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

It does very much feel like they only want to be members because its an all female organisation. Someone even mentioned they only wanted to join because they'd seen Betty Draper from Mad Men as part of it and wanted to look like her.
I'll draft your comments into something less likely to give Mary, 65 a heart attack and hope for the best. Thank you fren

If you need any more help, just come to the thread or DM me. I hate these motherfuckers, so fucking much.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Are you fucking kidding me?

Take every single crude piece of e-mail, highlight every ignorant fucking message (cuss words and all), and have it locked and fucking loaded for whoever's ready to run their mouth.

Tell the office if people try to pressure them to take trannies:

- they are not taking current members due to safety concerns due to said threatening emails. This is why you will hand those emails out, like church brochures.

-Place blatant criteria on age ranges for members. These men are way too old to be there and only want to be fucking creeps.

-These men need to be sponsored by two current members to even be considered

-They/all members MUST undergo social media/legal background. The latter if need be, because a majority of them are sex offenders.

Don't ever take any shit from these pricks. They don't give a fuck about no one. If this is the JL I'm thinking of, they don't do charity work. They hold their greasy little hands out for your hard work and time.

Fuck these faggots, and the women they fell out of. Because those are the same bitches that coddled their autistic asses to being parasites on womanhood and society.

No, don't do any of that. Altering your rules to have a workaround to keep troons out means they are compromising you. And, if the troons have a taste for blood (and they clearly already do), your workaround rules will be challenged in a court of law anyway.

Your response should be:

We do not take as volunteers or members anyone originally assigned male at birth.

That's it. That's all. No pretending that troons qualify. No capitulation to their language except to be very specific about the sex class that qualifies.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

If you need any more help, just come to the thread or DM me. I hate these motherfuckers, so fucking much.

The way some people go through chemo or lose a loved one and put a "FUCK CANCER" sticker on their cars is starting to make sense to me. Seemed kind of silly overkill before- it's not like cancer can hear you being mad at it.

But troonery, like cancer, just feels like such a fucking dark evil force, and all it does is take, take, take.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

No, don't do any of that. Altering your rules to have a workaround to keep troons out means they are compromising you. And, if the troons have a taste for blood (and they clearly already do), your workaround rules will be challenged in a court of law anyway.

You can't do that, dumbass. Troons are protected under anti-discrimination laws in the U.S. and Canada. If you alter rules, they cannot challenge you in court. They have the right to alter their rules under threat--i.e., email harassment. Telling them 'no, you have a dick' will cause a feeding frenzy!
Please use your head.

The way some people go through chemo or lose a loved one and put a "FUCK CANCER" sticker on their cars is starting to make sense to me. Seemed kind of silly overkill before- it's not like cancer can hear you being mad at it.

But troonery, like cancer, just feels like such a fucking dark evil force, and all it does is take, take, take.

Honestly. I feel horrible for the ppl who are stuck with these abominations in person. At least we can point and laugh from a distance. They have to deal with their temper tantrums on a daily.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

You can't do that, dumbass. Troons are protected under anti-discrimination laws in the U.S. and Canada. If you alter rules, they cannot challenge you in court. They have the right to alter their rules under threat--i.e., email harassment. Telling them 'no, you have a dick' will cause a feeding frenzy!
Please use your head.

Use YOUR head.

I don't know what state or country the JL poster is. It could very well be the case that my proposition would be legally challengeable. But that's the point. Your proposition is also legally challengeable: changing your rules specifically to avoid enrolling troons would be just as illegal (if it's illegal) as doing it directly.

If the poster is in America, now is the best fucking opportunity to push back on troon tyranny. Altering your rules means your are allowing troons to push you around anyway, and they'll get in one way or another because there will be troons who can fulfil the conditions. You'll also fuck up the prospects of actual women that you would have let in, because some of them can't fulfil the new conditions introduced solely to keep troons out.

There can no longer be half measures.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

Use YOUR head.

I don't know what state or country the JL poster is. It could very well be the case that my proposition would be legally challengeable. But that's the point. Your proposition is also legally challengeable: changing your rules specifically to avoid enrolling troons would be just as illegal (if it's illegal) as doing it directly.

If the poster is in America, now is the best fucking opportunity to push back on troon tyranny. Altering your rules means your are allowing troons to push you around anyway, and they'll get in one way or another because there will be troons who can fulfil the conditions. You'll also fuck up the prospects of actual women that you would have let in, because some of them can't fulfil the new conditions introduced solely to keep troons out.

There can no longer be half measures.

Are you a man? Like legit? because there's no way you have zero concept of anything happening here.

Changing the rules isn't just there to challenge troons--you have to outright say it's against troons for it to be under consideration for discrimination. The rules I laid out are there to bottleneck anyone, women and men alike. This is meant to keep people safe, and the organization legally protected by putting in sponsorship and vetting process. The sponsorship is solely there to hold accountability for these fuck ups, and people that let them in.
I'm in multiple women's groups, I had to be fucking vetted and nominated. This is the best way to keep ppl from walking in and fucking doing whatever they want. It's the fucking standard for organizations in general.

Stop being so black-and-white about this. Troons are going to bitch no matter what. It's been their M.O. since they decided they're lesbians now. The least the JL can do is have reasonable deniability to protect them socially and legally from "discriminatory" ramifications. A whole organization that has been for women for 130 yrs can't be handled like a NYC pop-up cafe. These trannies are going to harass them and then get bored. The chance of them going to court is so low, because they all work retail or food service. There is no money to throw around, so they're harassing them through email.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

These trannies are going to harass them and then get bored. The chance of them going to court is so low, because they all work retail or food service. There is no money to throw around, so they're harassing them through email.

Hopefully when they kick up a stink, they’ll get angry about the bit about social media background checks. Troons have this hilarious habit of accidentally admitting more than they should. See also: complaining that introducing the death penalty for child molesters will be used to kill troons.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Are you a man?

Yes.

Like legit? because there's no way you have zero concept of anything happening here.

It's true there's no way I have zero concept, because I'm well versed in the troon menace that has escalated over the past decade.

Changing the rules isn't just there to challenge troons--you have to outright say it's against troons for it to be under consideration for discrimination.

No, you don't. You really, really don't. Indirect discrimination is when a practice, policy or rule is the same for everyone but has a worse effect on someone because of a "protected characteristic". And I guarantee you, the ACLU, which is now solely devoted to advancing troonery, will fight any organisation on it.

The rules I laid out are there to bottleneck anyone, women and men alike. This is meant to keep people safe, and the organization legally protected by putting in sponsorship and vetting process. The sponsorship is solely there to hold accountability for these fuck ups, and people that let them in.
I'm in multiple women's groups, I had to be fucking vetted and nominated. This is the best way to keep ppl from walking in and fucking doing whatever they want. It's the fucking standard for organizations in general.

I'm happy that you were vetted. That isn't the point. If the JL wanted vetting they would have it already without conjuring it up in a desperate attempt to keep out troons.

And if they introduce vetting, it won't keep out troons. And if they introduce it, the timing will be direct evidence they did it only because trans women were threatening to get in.

Stop being so black-and-white about this. Troons are going to bitch no matter what. It's been their M.O. since they decided they're lesbians now. The least the JL can do is have reasonable deniability to protect them socially and legally from "discriminatory" ramifications.

They won't even have that. Introducing a raft of membership restrictions that are indirectly, yet obviously, meant to keep out troons will be considered indirect discrimination.

And there doesn't even have to be the intention. You can be found liable for indirect discrimination without discrimination being a motive at all.

A whole organization that has been for women for 130 yrs can't be handled like a NYC pop-up cafe. These trannies are going to harass them and then get bored. The chance of them going to court is so low, because they all work retail or food service. There is no money to throw around, so they're harassing them through email.

There are organisations--chiefly the ACLU--who now do NOTHING BUT advance the trandom menace. You are naive or deliberately ignorant. The troons DON'T FUND THEIR LITIGATION. Shitlibs do.

 

[Weebtard]

I once said: Truetrans is about replacement, queer trans are about subjugation. let's start with the easy one, queers: suck my dick bigot, let me fuck you bigot, let me in your spaces bigot, etc.

truetrans is tricky, though. what do I mean by "replacement"? well, women are women. circular definition, I know. the "issue" is that women are humans who, just like a human tends to be, are multifaceted. what is the issue and how does this relate to truetrans and this "replacement"? many truetrannies place themselves as "just another one of the girls" who hate those disgusting queer troons! they also loathe the denigration of women, teehee. and they're like, totally hot too! thirst traps for troon rights, right fakebimbo dollcast full of fetishistic men with a bimbo fetish?

truetrans is not about crying, fighting tooth and nail for their magical bimbo-making pill, and getting boobjobs: its about replacing women. men, do women ever like, tell you no? well, we troon girls are hot and fun and we need dick and cum all the time to keep our pussies open, fuck us! are those pesky women with their pesky standards and complex cores letting out non-soothing and pleasing sides of themselves show? us troon girlies are different. we will please you. we are not like those other girls because we know how hard it is.

you think I am exaggerating, probably. that no, truetrans is not like this: you're wrong. a lot of it is subconscious. they will say they've gotten death threats and shit from those TERFs who also hate you, men. they hate women like me and men like you, therefore you should ally with me for my boobjob and lip filler rights.

I find truetrans to be disgusting. the oldest form of transsexualism and easily the most dangerous to women because if taken to its extreme on a social level it signifies a great replacement of sorts for womankind. men with boobjobs and suffering bulimia will enthral the (retarded) men and weaponize their sexuality and misplaced anger towards you for prostesting their invasion of women's spaces, which is just a smaller prelude to what is in my opinion an erasement of women from public life. am I exaggerating? definitely. do I need these thoughts put somewhere? yes.

these trannies first start with invading your spaces and getting your trophies, then they start by turning men against you, which is a bigger threat and the one that worries me the most. brianna wu is the best example of this: "gender criticals and TERFs hate you and me too. lets ally". look, I know man haters hate men and see us as rapists by nature, but they dont understand how important it is that the truetrans cult is using the misandrism present in a lot of GC and TERFs to turn the men against them and rally support towards trans privileges.

when they get the men to turn against women, but REALLY turn against women by making those men think "women might suck, but you always have us loving trans gwrls", thats when the great replacement starts. I dont think it will ever happen, truth be told, because men love women. men worship women. not in a simp way, duh. they just, you know, are enthralled by women and femininity.

I think a lot of these truetrans trannies and their MAGA TRAs, the MAGA handmaidens and enablers for lack of a better term, are the last barrier to dismantling transsexualism. I call them MAGA handmaidens and enablers because they are tradcons who buy hard into traditional gender roles and see truetrans as a validation of that.

when you can take down the final barrier of truetrans you will eradicate transsexualism. but you need to be unafraid and willing to give up things you might like or think. for example: no more elective plastic surgery.

I also have a huge bone to pick with detransitioners, and idk if this might be the place, but i need to let it out anyway: not sorry. some detransitioners seem like gigantic pickmes towards truetrans. mostly the women and men who detrans but stay feminine(men) and masculine(women). they are bitter, too. they want back their breasts/cock but they cant get it, therefore its easier to cope and say "well it didnt work out for me and trans might be a lie, but we still have to treat troons with care and be willing to compromise a bit, right?".

this mostly applies to the "tomboyish" detransitioners who wear strange outfits, are aesthetically unappealing, and dress "manly". these detroons ally themselves with truscum or gender critical lite folks because they are still in their INLOG pooner mindset. I really cannot put this into words well enough, but I get a big vibe of envy too. towards femininity and feminine women. like they need to cope by getting together with these truscum men and "cool new-age AGPs who dont claim to be trans but still engage in their troon degeneracy (I've seen a few on social media and its like, really weird)".

I dont believe clothes make you a man or a woman, but it'd be wrong to act like a lot of current masculinity and femininity isnt deeply ingrained in us, and that even if you as a man dont claim to be trans and loathe the concept, engaging in your autogynophilia is still participating and aiding the growth of your personal autogynophilia and validating, somewhat, gender ideology. same with the detroons who stay "masculine", but those tend to be the type who've fucked up their bodies and cope. Yes, I am quite clearly shallowly claiming its all about looks, to an extent. petty competition. mean girls 2004 but everyone's ugly and adult.

I think a lot of autogynophilia and autoandrophilia, the root of transsexualism, will not be fought against but validated under new terms. "i like to dress, present, and act like a 'man/woman' but im not trans and thats fine and you shouldn't call me creepy even if I have a fetish". which is just going to lead to transsexualism back again in a few years/decades if we ever get to the point, as a society, where we see trans as degenerate condition and shit. a lot of TERFs dont see it, and only focus on the readily present trannies, which makes sense, but this shit goes DEEP. the root's thick and hard to grasp. unless you eradicate the root and yes, break "terf-code" by going against the new type of TRAs (seemingly conservative people who support truetrans) and try get autogyniphilia and autoandrophilia branded as mental illnesses, NOT transsexualism ONLY, you wont get anywhere. I say terfs because it really is the women doing this. the men dont really give a shit about trannies because they cannot be scared of their consequences. pooners are weak. they pose no threat to men.

 

[DefCon Dumb]

Not much of a TV watcher but got home from work early and threw on one of the main networks to catch the evening news.

I rarely pay any attention to ads but this one caught my eye. It was a flashy ad featuring a troon performer, high speed action, lots of flashy lights and was a pro trans ad.

The takeaway line was something along the line of “see the person”, not the label or something to that effect.

They gave the following URL:

Egale.ca

Egale is the French word for ‘equal’.

Had no idea this pro-trans organization existed and I’ve never seen a pro-trans ad on tv before.

The URL does link to a real organization and the very quick look I’ve taken so far leads me to think it’s all positive, positive, positive.

Plan to look through the site after I digest my supper. I’ll be curious to estimate the truth to bullshit ratio.

I’m curious if pushback against trans is finally making itself felt in Canada. Trans and their issues rarely become a topic of conversation for me; why the hell would it?

My adult kids and their spouses bristle at the slightest hint of trans critiques; I get being open to other lifestyles but we’ll see how that goes when my grandkids hit the age where there might be direct exposure.

TL/DR: We’ll see how long stereotypically polite Canadians maintain their good manners when they can no longer ignore the Yanivs, Keffals and probably many others becoming emboldened.

Most I’ve spoken to want no part of trans asskissing.

 

[Dilatortron3000]

Are the lesbian pooners now outnumbered by the fujoshi pooners?