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[mlanguishi]

While it is fun to mock the Russians or the Ukrainians (depending on what strikes your fancy) in this pointless war, there are a lot of people who seem to really want to experience a nuclear strike in their lifetime, simply out of morbid curiosity and bloodlust, and the current conflict is just a convenient excuse for them.

A lot of preppers or doomers have wanted a nuclear war because they think it'll be badass and The Road Warrior situation wasn't all that terrible in the end.

I have to admit I wish they'd set off a 100kt airburst somewhere again out in the open just to get modern cam equipment on it and maybe even a paying audience. I'd go and watch it from upwind 15 miles away or so.

Anyone thing it'll be a 'fun' thing reminds me of this old news pamphlet I found on ebay some time ago that I can't find anymore that was titled 'The Good News About Nuclear Armageddon' that was more or less a pretty fantasy.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

If everyone really wants to doom-out over this shit, the original Fallout manual actually had a neat little breakdown of immediate and delayed effects.

tl;dr it's fires and short lived fallout.

BUT NOTHING EVER HAPPENS, and so help me god I am going to compile a list of faggots to remind nothing happens when this is over.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

No. If you don't die immediately in a nuclear war, the next big threat is hungry people and a collapse in law.

If you don't die in the initial explosion, the next thing that will immediately kill you is exposure to massive amounts of radiation. If you are not in the way of massive nuclear fallout that can poison and kill you in a matter of days, then you get into food, water, and so on. You, and others, are correct to point out that I did not write an ordered list of threats.

 

[los pepes]

Gaetz won't go back to being a Congressman, will be doing other stuff from a different perch:
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Seems like he's going to basically tell Bondi who to indict and just raise populist ire over insider trading. Maybe they shouldn't have tried to be so smug about the sex trafficking lies.
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I usually don't buy the 5d chess copium when it comes to Trump's smoothbrain nominations going back to 2016, but in this case the fact that gaetz is not going back to Congress tends to give credence to the idea that this was a setup all along. He knew he probably was not getting confirmed (and if by some miracle he did that would be a happy bonus) and for whatever reason wanted out of Congress so now he's taken the pressure off the other nominees and put it back on the RINOs to not look like naked deep state obstructionists. I don't know what the plan is for him but I think it is fair to conclude whatever it is was devised before he accepted the nomination.

If he was genuinely surprised he didn't make it, he would have slunk back to the next Congress and accepted his seating there to regroup.

 

[Not Really Here]

No. If you don't die immediately in a nuclear war, the next big threat is hungry people and a collapse in law.

A high-altitude electromagnetic pulse results from the
detonation of a nuclear warhead at altitudes above about 25
miles over the country or over our forces. The immediate effect
of EMP would be the disruption of and damage to the electronic
systems and electrical infrastructure. This, in turn, can
seriously impact important aspects of our whole national life,
including telecommunications, the financial system, government
services, the means of getting food, water, medical care, trade
and production, as well as electrical power itself.
Given our Armed Forces' reliance on critical national
infrastructures, the cascading failures could seriously
jeopardize our military's ability to execute its mission in
support of national security. Projection of military power from
air bases and seaports requires electricity, fuel, food and
water. And the coordination of military operations depends on
telecommunications and information systems that are so
indispensable to society as a whole. Within the U.S., these
assets are, in most cases, obtained by the military from our
critical national infrastructures and from civilian providers.

China and Russia have considered limited nuclear attack
option that, unlike their Cold War plans, employ EMP as the
primary or sole means of attack. Indeed, in May 1999, during
the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia, high-ranking members
of the Russian Duma, meeting with the U.S. congressional
delegation to discuss the Balkans conflict, raised the specter
of a Russian EMP attack that would paralyze the United States.

THREAT POSED BY ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE (EMP) ATTACK 110th US Congress

 

[Kalbsy]

It's for the best. Mr. not-a-scientist "the HIV virus doesn't exist/the MMR vaccine creates 'tard babies" RFK Jr. doesn't belong anywhere near the FDA. He thinks when AIDS research mentions "elite controller" it means the Illuminati

If RFK. Jr. was given any sort of regulatory power, it'd lead to American pharmaceutical giants (and all their research) fleeing the country, routine childhood vaccinations banned, & everyone stuck treating diphtheria with silver iodine drops & bleach enemas.

Bet not; they'd just make a bunch of noise; any consequences would be planned by pharma and gay doctors/faggot health admins.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/art...how-trump-has-lost-popular-vote-majority.html

On Election Night, with characteristic modesty, Donald Trump claimed an “unprecedented and powerful mandate.” He certainly won the contest legitimately, if more narrowly than many observers initially thought. His popular-vote margin over Kamala Harris has dropped from around 3 percent on the evening of November 5 (or about two-thirds of Joe Biden’s margin in 2020) to 1.62 percent today. That’s about a half-percent smaller than Hillary Clinton’s national popular-vote margin over Trump in 2016. To make some other comparisons: Barack Obama won the popular vote by 3.9 percent in 2012 and 7.2 percent in 2008, and George W. Bush won the popular vote by 2.4 percent in the very close 2004 election.

Unlike Obama and Bush, moreover, Trump did not win a majority of the national popular vote. Though it looked like he was over 50 percent on Election Night, the steady drip of late ballots has eroded his percentage to (currently) 49.87 percent, with further slippage very likely before all the votes are in.

Trump’s win in the Electoral College was more impressive, though his 316 electoral votes were less than Obama’s in either of his elections and just above Biden’s in 2020. In Pennsylvania, the “tipping point” state that clinched a second term for Trump, his margin over Harris was 1.8 percent, not exactly a landslide.

So by any measure, the claim of an “unprecedented” mandate simply isn’t true. Trump won a very close election and will govern a country where a near majority of people have voted against him three times. Yes, his party won control of Congress as well. But in the House, the margin of Republican control (with three contests still undecided) is so small that Trump’s appointment of three representatives to Cabinet positions could make any controversial votes extremely difficult for House Speaker Mike Johnson until special elections are held, and very difficult even then.

Given that perilous hold on power, Trump might want to reconsider his current strategy of ruling Washington like a devastated and occupied enemy city with a Cabinet largely composed of men and women who appear to hate the departments and agencies they are supposed to oversee, plus a governing plan that may rely on testing the tolerance of the federal judiciary for totally unparalleled assertions of supreme presidential powers. And Trump’s MAGA base should also cool its jets a bit. There’s certainly a degree of triumphalism in the air that really isn’t justified by the election returns. Consider this take from RealClearPolitics columnist Frank Miele, who suggests Trump follow the U.S. Civil War model for subduing enemies:

This time around, Trump knows he only has four years to fulfill his plans. So he’s moving with lightning speed to do exactly what Abraham Lincoln accomplished in his four years in the White House: unite the country by demonstrating strength, wisdom, and patriotism.

Lincoln’s Confederate enemies, to be clear, seceded from the Union and launched a violent attack on U.S. military facilities that led to a conflict that killed over 2 percent of the nation’s population, followed by the military occupation of rebel areas. If Trump and his supporters believe that’s the kind of mandate the 47th president has somehow been given by a minority of Americans, we are all in a lot of trouble.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

One nuke set off 25 miles above the US will crash the electrical grid, and make it unlikely for you to survive long enough to care.
It's not movies from 1970 combined with a videogame.

I have like five degrees and watched a bunch of youtube. I'm pretty sure you're wrong.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

One nuke set off 25 miles above the US will crash the electrical grid, and make it unlikely for you to survive long enough to care.
It's not movies from 1970 combined with a videogame.

Is there a more modern take on the idea than Threads? I know the electrical grid is fragile, but I figured it would be back up relatively quickly, yeah?

No. If you don't die immediately in a nuclear war, the next big threat is hungry people and a collapse in law.

All those imported pet brown people will go african warlord on Europe and the UK and the US the SECOND the gibs stop. They will starve last, and the entire time you'll have white liberals screaming that it's YOUR DUTY to feed them, even while your family is dying.

Remember, in a bugout, shoot the traitors first.

 

[Space Faring Marsupial]

It's a similar situation where I live. The way I see it, at least all the terrible drivers in my area will suffer with me. And I'll get to observe if dying from fallout makes people somehow drive better. I'll be sure to write down my observations before I shit my guts out and die.

Sounds like you live where I live lol.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

Can we switch back to the "Russia is trad based 40K irl" psyop? That's fun at least.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/art...how-trump-has-lost-popular-vote-majority.html

Utter drivel. Trump won more votes than Harris and they can't handle it.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Just to be clear, who are you talking about here? Because Russia's missiles work whilst the last test Bongland did of its Trident system the missile came out the top of the sub and fell into the sea about 15m away.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395

https://archive.md/lL4aL

I presume the US missiles do work, but that just brings us back to MAD. Well, honestly the USA probably would just sit back if push came to shove because WWIII will take place in Europe and Washington Neocons aren't willing to actually die themselves for the Europoors.

US and Bongland Trident missiles are the same missiles. We share them with the UK, picked via some random lottery process. So their failure is our failure, effectively. Missiles are a pain to maintain, and they have a failure rate to begin with, so it's probably pointless to read too much into it. Much like Russia's own missile failures.

Anyone who can routinely send material into orbit obviously has the ability to make long-range missiles, regardless of any embarrassing failed test launches. MIRV is trickier than making missiles, and Russia has shown they have functional MIRV capacity, so the issue is largely moot. Both sides can easily kill each other, if things come to that.

NATO has said it would respond by going after whatever unit and base was involved in the strike. If this happens, it is almost certainly going to be a tactical nuke, so, expect stealth bombers to blow up an air base and some parked bombers.

And then Russia takes out a NATO base in retaliation. And then NATO hits some other Russian target and on and on, until CONUS is glowing in the dark along with the smoldering ruins of Russia. This shit gets out of hand quickly and it's very unlikely to stay in Eurasia. Politicians are not rational actors, and shouldn't be assumed to act like they are.

 

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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/art...how-trump-has-lost-popular-vote-majority.html

"We counted votes until we could claim we didn't lose AKSHUALLY every single fucking possible way imaginable. Be prepared for 4 years of AKSHUALLYing at him."

Too bad. He won the popular vote.

Edit: Oh god it's worse than I thought


"He won the house senate popular vote and electoral college across all swing states and the entire blue wall. But it's a PERILOUS HOLD ON POWER, FOLKS!"

The swamp creatures cling desperately to a mossy rock in the muck, desperate for some kind of handhold.

I hope the next 4-12 years are nothing but mental breakdowns and autistic screeching from these fuckers as his team tears apart every federalist, globalist, and progressive sacred cow they can find.

 

[Prester John]

Utter drivel. Trump won more votes than Harris and they can't handle it.

It puts Trump in the same category as Clinton (Bill), who also didn't break 50%.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

SLOW AND STEADY

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My personal copium for her is that she'll keep AI deregulated which will make both boomers and the ~le creatives endlessly butthurt.

So what? Me and Jim Metokur also campaigned for Jeb! in 2016.

You mean you didn't??

Guac bowl test now. Show em!

 

[Fred Herbert]

I wish retarded psychopaths would volunteer for Ukrainian mercenary units and get killed by thermobarics instead of screeching for nuclear extinction.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

And then Russia takes out a NATO base in retaliation. And then NATO hits some other Russian target and on and on, until CONUS is glowing in the dark along with the smoldering ruins of Russia. This shit gets out of hand quickly and it's very unlikely to stay in Eurasia. Politicians are not rational actors, and shouldn't be assumed to act like they are.

But Russia is the good guy because...?
Russia is allowed to spiral but nobody else because...?

If Putin is really going to do this when he doesn't get his way, then we might as well get it over with.
Or, on second thought, he's a psyopping KGB FAGGOT and this is bluster to spook people.

 

[Not Really Here]

but I figured it would be back up relatively quickly, yeah?

No, it would cause a massive amount cascading damage, including power plants shutting down without the slow ramp they require.
The grid is in fact so fragile, you could do it with 9 guys using rifles to fire on substations.

A few coordinated attacks could collapse the system​

These groups dream of striking exactly the right spots in the power grid, which government reports have warned for decades could cause a domino effect and leave huge parts of the country in the dark.

“If you were to target, you know, eight or nine very key nodes throughout the United States, you potentially could have a collapsing effect,” Harrell warns.

High voltage transmission power lines and substations are often spread across the country in out of the way places which can be hard to keep safe and technically challenging to secure.

“It’s inherently very difficult to harden or protect it all,” Granger Morgan, an engineering professor at Carnegie Mellon University told CNN. “It may not take all that high tech an approach to cause physical disruption that could have very large consequences.”

CNN

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

Gaetz won't go back to being a Congressman, will be doing other stuff from a different perch:
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Seems like he's going to basically tell Bondi who to indict and just raise populist ire over insider trading. Maybe they shouldn't have tried to be so smug about the sex trafficking lies.
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That is going to make Trump's opponents even more upset. Hah!