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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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LucasSomething said:
Anyway, i find really confusing how depressed Blitzo is acting after the "break up", considering before the break up he literally had zero positive memories with Stolas as he felt like a sex slave the whole time. The implication now is that blitzo always loved Stolas too which i never got the vibe, so him becoming so depressed (offscreen) he is ready to bankrupt the job of his life and take down his family/friends with him feels absurd.

Like, Vivzie could at least retcon some flashbacks about Blitzo enjoying Stolas company or something, she doesn't need to gaslight us everytime.
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Because in this show, they rather tell us things then show us. It's why Blitzø had to TELL Fizzaroli all the nice things Stolas had done for him. It's why Stolas had to TELL Stella that he tried to make their relationship work. It's why Millie had to TELL Blitzø that they are friends and she appreciates it. We as the audience will never get to see this for ourselves, but you can bet the characters will talk about it.

Stolitz could have worked if it was a slow burn, but Viv for whatever reason really wanted to rush this plot point. She really just skipped the whole "falling in love" aspect. You don't ever really see anything deeper between these too besides fucking in season 1. At best, maybe episode 5 and 6 you see some sort of inkling of something more blossoming, but it's so minor that you could say either party is protecting the other more for their own benefit. Then episode 7 comes along and Stolas does a complete 180 towards Blitzo, acting like some high-school girl who is going out on their first date with their crush. It's just such a drastic personality change with how he used to act around Blitzø (side note, this is the first episode Viv writes on her own without Brandon and continued the trend of her and Adam writing an episode on their own. I wonder if Brandon was responsible for having Stolas act more sinister before he just stopped writing episodes for the show.)

Season 2 comes along, and we do then see the moment Stolas apparently first fell in love with Blitzø in a flashback when they were kids. I feel like Viv wrote that in though because even she knows that Stolas loving Blitzø came out of nowhere and she knew she needed some sort of explanation cause the fandom was asking question. But at least Stolas got something. Blitzø didn't and never will get that moment where he's like "Oh shit, I think I've fallen for that bird."
 
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InJailOutSoon said:
It's why Blitzø had to TELL Fizzaroli all the nice things Stolas had done for him. It's why Stolas had to TELL Stella that he tried to make their relationship work. It's why Millie had to TELL Blitzø that they are friends and she appreciates it.
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I think it speaks to the laziness of the writer when this is done. Vivzie clearly has in her head a checklist of the things she wants to do. A good writer will lay out that checklist and come up with the story around them. How did this come to pass? Is that interesting enough to show my audience? Then, ideally, they do. But Vivzie isn't patient enough to show us all that happening. She wants her story beats and nothing else.
 
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InJailOutSoon said:
Season 2 comes along, and we do then see the moment Stolas apparently first fell in love with Blitzø in a flashback when they were kids. I feel like Viv wrote that in though because even she knows that Stolas loving Blitzø came out of nowhere and she knew she needed some sort of explanation cause the fandom was asking question. But at least Stolas got something. Blitzø didn't and never will get that moment where he's like "Oh shit, I think I've fallen for that bird."
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It's funny how Vivzie could've milked this slow burn for multiple seasons like Miraculous Ladybug or many romcoms but she somehow rushed through her favourite romance tropes in the span of few episodes.

Season 2 had
-The childhood crush reveal
-The duo mission that is totally but not really a date
-The damsel in distress minsunderstanding that ends with almost death
-The confession into misunderstanding (No one would ever love me!) into rejection
-The TRUE confession into feels bad man but they will get over (they wont)
-The "friend helps you get over your AAAANGST by going on a wacky sidequest and remind you're loved" episode
(jesus christ season 2 is just a yaoi fanfic at this point)

And these episodes are almost back to back, with the season not being over yet. If Blitzo and Stolas get together at the end then season 2 is literally just Vivzie speedrunning Stolitz ASAP, at the cost of every character in the show.
 
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LucasSomething said:
Vivzie cannot write a character arc that doesn't involve daddy issues or lack of confidence. Every character arc can be described as one or the other, you're not allowed to have anything else.
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Your asking a women who has massive daddy and confidence issues to not write about daddy and confidence issues. You know your asking for the impossible right?
 
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InJailOutSoon said:
It’s that time again! New #HelluvaBoss this Friday! Get ready… 😈✨
New episode tomorrow. I'm kind of surprised that it's shows a preview of Millie, instead of anything from the court. Thought the entirety of IMP was going to take a back seat on that one.

Also, is Blitzø still going to be drowning in self pity because of? I thought that got solved in the last episode with that talk with Millie. Or at least it wouldn't be affecting his work no more. But we can see that he's on some gambling website. Is he spending all the company's funds on that?

What is it with characters learning the same lesson over and over again in this show? Can't wait for the next episode on Moxxie where he learns to have self confidence...again. Or the episode where Stolas learns he has to pay attention to Octavia...again. The same repeated lesson for these three; no one else gets any. Except for when Viv is in an extra gay mood, then we might get an episode on Fizzaroli. Lucky us.
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Wait, if Millie is the center of the episode, it cannot involve daddy issues. Isn't she well resolved with her father, Joe? Then what gives? I guess Blitz will be the excuse.
Rakdos92 said:
lol, and considered just as fuckable by the fanbase too if we go by the fanart.
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Lol, I can see that.
 
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So while we wait for episode 11, I looked at the writing credits to prove a theory of mine. But it proved to be even deeper than I thought. While Brandon and Viv both wrote the episodes for the majority of season 1, there is still a main writer for each episode. You can tell who by seeing which name comes on the credits first.

And not only does Brandon's name go first on Murder Family, Sping Broken, and CHERUB; his name is also first on the Pilot. And the three episodes are similar in writing style to the pilot. Meanwhile, Viv's name goes first on Loo Loo Land, The Harvest Moon Festival, and Truth Seekers. Even if you like these episodes, you can't deny that they are differently styled than Brandon's episodes. Also Stolas is in all three of those episodes, and while Stolas is in the pilot and the first episode of the show, you can see how his demeanor changes in Viv's writing compared to Brandon's.

And then we get the season finale, which solidified Stolas' complete personality shift and this show becoming more of a relationship drama instead of a work comedy, because Brandon is no longer writing. It's a sole Viv episode. (Granted Brandon did help write the Queen Bee episode, but that was more of an animation showcase of anything. Either way, Viv is still the main writer for this, and so comes all the relationship drama.

And you can see this in Season 2 when Adam comes along. He wrote Seeing Stars, Exes and Oohs, and Unhappy Campers. Only one of those episodes had Stolas in it, but the Stolitz stuff is put more on the back burner. You can also see Adam trying to replicate Brandon's style and making it more of a comedy, even if he fails at that. The rest of the episodes are written by Viv and have Stolas in it, except for the Mammon episode. And the episode that Adam helped Viv write (The Full Moon), which a lot of people said felt like two episodes mashed together, with having Stolitz drama on one hand and the other other focusing on the Cherubs. And of course, you have Ghostfuckers, which was written solely by Brandon, but that was an episode that has to be rewritten because Viv realized that people would react poorly to Millie almost killing herself from the leaks.

In conclusion, when Brandon was more in charge of the writing, we got what the pilot promised: a wacky workplace comedy on demons going up to earth to assassinate humans. When Viv became more in charge...we got the Stolitz show.
 
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Helluva Boss is getting an official Russian dub and yet still some whiners couldn’t keep their political views to themselves.
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ssaneenah said:
Use the media clipper, buddy.
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Thanks for the info, fren.

Episode was so full of clichés that by the end you can already tell what direction they will take the "story". Fujos are just so predictable.

Finally got to see the other Goetia, is there a reason one of them sounds like a stereotypical Mexican/latino?
 
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ssaneenah said:
Use the media clipper, buddy.

Bet Ukrainians have been watching those exact dubs because, well, every Ukrainian is speaking Russian when SSU is not listening.
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This episode was so kino. I've been waiting forever to see the other sin designs. I like Lucifer's chair being abandoned with a dumb rubber duck lol
 
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