The Final Fantasy Thread

Zaryiu2 said:
So last single player Final Fantasy i played was 12 so are any of the single player games since worth playing if I'm looking to have fun? (I'm well aware of what the 13 trilogy was like so i mean more like 15, 16 and spinoffs)
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Final Fantasy: The 4 Heroes of Light is pretty good. It's a lot like Bravely Default, but a little better imo.
 
FF16 was something like £15 on Amazon's Black Friday, that doesn't sound like a game that was a financial hit.

I'm replaying FF8 at the moment, just having reached the Ragnarök. It holds nostalgia for me in that the limited edition was the first thing I bought with my first ever paycheque (which I still have), but I don't recall ever replaying it since the days of the PS1. Whilst 7 and 9 are the better games, it's still a good game and the hate it's gotten over the years is overblown. Squall does start as an edgy boi but that doesn't last that long, even if it feels like his feelings for Rinoa go from 0-100 in an instant. The junction system is flawed and discourages you from using magic, but I do appreciate how they tried something different. Given how groundbreaking FF7 was following it was always a difficult task, and feels like a lot of the negativity comes from the fact they couldn't match that game's heights, and how Square never had the desire to return to that world.
 
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FF16 was pretty good, but it certainly wasn't $60 levels of good for the PC release since most people interested would have cooled off from any hype after a year. If anything it's probably a damning conclusion to spending too much money developing games making returns impossible. Certainly worth the play at that sale price though.

FF8 is also a favorite too! It has that same charm as Dragons Dogma 1 where it's so clearly an unfinished game that they had to cut a lot of content to make work so it has an almost mystique to me as to what could have been the final result had they ben able to finish. I recall, much like a lot of the devs of ff9 that they would love to come back together and make the project they intended with the cut content back in with a remaster for many years, but it never had a chance versus the money they are pumping into FF7R (which i also doubt is actually making a good ROI).
Still, ff8 is probably a favorite to replay every now and then as well due to people modding it and overhauling the battle system and even the story. It's a weird Final Fantasy for that, and I appreciate it.
 
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Does feel like 3 smaller scale remakes of FF7-9, improving the graphics, keeping the structure and battle systems whilst sorting out the bugs and balance issues would have been much better than the bloated Rebirth trilogy which might be completed this decade. I also wonder if FF8's bad rep comes from a lack of voice acting, the infamous "...whatever" could equally be read as "I don't care" or "I don't let it bother me" but we don't have the inflection that would make him a bit more empathetic. Although that said the orphanage revelation has always bothered me, memory loss is one of the laziest writing tropes, but also Irvine still remembers they all grew up together yet doesn't mention it just so the plot can happen.
 
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The Penultimate Warrior said:
FF16 was something like £15 on Amazon's Black Friday, that doesn't sound like a game that was a financial hit.

I'm replaying FF8 at the moment, just having reached the Ragnarök. It holds nostalgia for me in that the limited edition was the first thing I bought with my first ever paycheque (which I still have), but I don't recall ever replaying it since the days of the PS1. Whilst 7 and 9 are the better games, it's still a good game and the hate it's gotten over the years is overblown. Squall does start as an edgy boi but that doesn't last that long, even if it feels like his feelings for Rinoa go from 0-100 in an instant. The junction system is flawed and discourages you from using magic, but I do appreciate how they tried something different. Given how groundbreaking FF7 was following it was always a difficult task, and feels like a lot of the negativity comes from the fact they couldn't match that game's heights, and how Square never had the desire to return to that world.
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Replayed FF8 recently. Fun fact, in Japanese Ragnarok can be read as "Raguna Roku" or "Laguna 6." Did Laguna name a fleet of airships after himself? Is there a cult of personality revolving around him there as the only person to defeat the Sorceress?

What the hell happened to Trabia, did Esthar use Lunatic Pandora on their capital? What else happened in Centra and to the Centrans?

I'd like to see an FF8-2 like we got all those trash sequels to FF7 and X exploring its world, I loved it when I was a teen and I want more of it.

Anyway I'm playing the Mod of Balance romhack of FF1 on my GBA SP. It does do a good job of balancing but I rather like the idea of class changing and that's supposed to get rid of it, and it adds a bunch of other classes anyway. (Not like it doesn't stop me from grinding to Level 15 before the Marsh Cave)
 
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What the hell happened to Trabia, did Esthar use Lunatic Pandora on their capital?
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Yes. If you remember the flashback scene where Laguna was shooting a movie, you actually see when the Lunatic Pandora triggers a Lunar Cry over Trabia.

TaimuRadiu said:
What else happened in Centra and to the Centrans?
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Nothing else is stated. Just a Lunar Cry, lmao.
 
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Gravemind said:
Yes. If you remember the flashback scene where Laguna was shooting a movie, you actually see when the Lunatic Pandora triggers a Lunar Cry over Trabia.


Nothing else is stated. Just a Lunar Cry, lmao.
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I brought it up since all there is in Trabia is Trabia Garden and Shumi, as well as that giant crater. In FF8 development material there was supposed to be a "Trabia Castle" that was the capital of it.

In the info corner it states that Ragnarok was modelled on Centra ships like the Dragon Ship (in my head like the Big Whale from FF 4 ), so I guess a lot of Centrans might have fucked off to the FF7 world.

No I will not accept the FFX-2 Shinra stuff.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
I brought it up since all there is in Trabia is Trabia Garden and Shumi, as well as that giant crater. In FF8 development material there was supposed to be a "Trabia Castle" that was the capital of it.
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Correct. All of that got fucked when Esthar Lunar Cry'd Trabia during that Laguna moment of the game.

TaimuRadiu said:
In the info corner it states that Ragnarok was modelled on Centra ships like the Dragon Ship (in my head like the Big Whale from FF 4 ), so I guess a lot of Centrans might have fucked off to the FF7 world.
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Just finished FF9 for the first time (!?) and ended up loving it. It might sound weird, but i was so pleased with the game that i don't need any sequels, prequels, or outside material to expand on the world. Every character concluded their arc succesfully, no loose ends at all, and you get a good feeling of what the future will be like for the setting.

Perfect gaming experience imo.
 
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Psyduck said:
It might sound weird, but i was so pleased with the game that i don't need any sequels, prequels, or outside material to expand on the world. Every character concluded their arc succesfully, no loose ends at all, and you get a good feeling of what the future will be like for the setting.

Perfect gaming experience imo.
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I had the feeling with 6 (there is a book talking the days in the kingdom of Figaro before the game, but that's it) it wraps up the game and makes explicitly clear there will not be a sequel (since there is no magic left)
 
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The first 9 final fantasies are self-conclused.
After FFX became more and more obvious in making sequels (with the exception of FF12 and FF16).
 
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Zaryiu2 said:
So last single player Final Fantasy i played was 12 so are any of the single player games since worth playing if I'm looking to have fun? (I'm well aware of what the 13 trilogy was like so i mean more like 15, 16 and spinoffs)
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This isn’t single-player but XIV is fantastic from heavensward to shadowbringers. After that it drops off a cliff. (And especially the most recent expansion)

I like XV but that’s personal bias speaking. It’s… fine… combat is meh, story had potential but is a mess. The villain and the music are both great though.

XVI has some really good boss fights but you have to slog through a lot of cutscenes and dialogue.

And then the FFVII remake games have some fun combat if you can get past the bullshit story.
SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
FF14 is apparently a cash cow, somehow, so no
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The question is, how long will FFXIV remain a cash cow the more they destroy it?

I know they lost me. And I may just be one person, but how many more won’t sub again due to the recent bullshit?
 
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