General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Scarthew]

Reminder they have had superchats open the whole time. Up8ate is absolute scum. Teasing a comeback when the VA left, scrubbing all of her content, including her finale concert.

Kasuga Nozomi retweeted this one

Also what content was scrubbed? All her videos are still there and the final live was just moved to a new channel so it doesn't get drowned in new livestreams.

If anything was down between then and now I imagine it was for legal reasons.

 

[Game Under]

Nijisanji's Petra Gurin is taking a hiatus to focus on studies X

Chloe Sakamata will not be involved in Holowitch anymore though the project will continue without her I guess whatever affiliate means it does not include continuing in stuff like this X

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

What the fuck is with the last three posts in a row using the phrase "corporate Memphis"? I've never heard that before and now here it is three times in a row. When did it stop being "globohomo"?

Wait its really called global homo? that's real? These faggots really calling themselves global homos? hahahahahahha

God has a sense of humor.

>bao and juniper hang out with piratesoftware irl
>unicorns call them whores
its like clockwork with these freaks

Pirate software is a coom furry with a pooner fiancee.

Also, bao is an actual whore. She has a side porn account people can subscribe to and constantly coom baits on stream.
The unis are right on bao at least. I don't know anything about Juniper. But if she hangs with Bao? Probably a ho.

Can't wait for a tweet longer on Pirate software though. That'll be fun.
Check out his thread if you want more weird creepy shit from that grifter.

Nijisanji's Petra Gurin

I need my morning coffee I read this as 'Peter Griffin'

 

[Maniacal Foreigner]

Wait its really called global homo? that's real? These faggots really calling themselves global homos? hahahahahahha

God has a sense of humor.

It's a pejorative, they don't call themselves that.

 

[Retarded Fat Autist]

Also, bao is an actual whore. She has a side porn account people can subscribe to and constantly coom baits on stream.
The unis are right on bao at least. I don't know anything about Juniper. But if she hangs with Bao? Probably a ho.

Can't wait for a tweet longer on Pirate software though. That'll be fun.
Check out his thread if you want more weird creepy shit from that grifter.

oh he is a freak? honestly not that surprising being a online persona and a ex blizzard dev shit might as well be a checklist
bao doing porn is news to me but i dont watch her outside of clips sent to me
as for juniper all i can really say about her is that she is alaskan(guarantied mental illness) and that she posted nudes when she was younger so prob a coomer on some level
but i was more laughing at the unicorns freaking out that a woman exists in the same general area as a man they are like bizzarro world groypers

 

[Bindo]

People underestimate how few changes are needed to screw up a company.

Large US corpos see this all the time.

15 years ago, some freshly promoted lady making $60k/yr will have taken it upon herself to maintain some Excel 2003 sheet that is referenced multiple times per hour, by multiple divisions, and because everything is working correctly, no one has ever looked under the hood.

She dies or retires, things coast for a month or two, as the data errors stack up in the background before anyone notices anything and then one Friday afternoon, things go from wobbling to full collapse and no one can figure out why. Tens of millions of dollars in lost productivity, penalties, fines, interest and rework later, some $500k/yr consultant is brought in to rebuild and "modernize and optimize" a fucking spread sheet.

Cover is the 800lb gorilla in vtubing, but every time they lose an A-chan, they run the risk that the replacement is someone promoted above their ability level, that the person being replaced was filling duties that were either undocumented or poorly understood by leadership, or that the new person is just a nepo-hired shithead with personal baggage that is going to create an office politics nightmare.

Any of those have the potential to create a talent exodus tsunami on a super short timeline.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I will note that Pekora is one of the mems who has a whole gambling addiction.

Yet, she ironically seems to be decent about her money. While yeah she's very private about some of her personal life, from what she has said I would not be surprised if that crazy Rabbit has a whole savings and then some to last her a while. It wouldn't surprise me either given the many sponsorships she's had.

Honestly unless you are cripplingly retarded, like ‘you probably need help’ kind of retarded it is not hard just to work out how much you need to spend, save and how much you have to gamble.

Even with the most crippling addictions they should be fine, considering the positions they are in.

 

[Papa stink]

Do you think cover management (and maybe even Fauna) regrets agreeing to let her say "disagreements with management"? For management because it's showing that there are problems behind the scenes and for Fauna because people are now making rrats that other EN members hate her or are throwing each other under the bus.

 

[Spud]

Do you think cover management (and maybe even Fauna) regrets agreeing to let her say "disagreements with management"?

Disagreement is rather vague term to use, cause the reason might just be something out of either parties control something or it's due to either party wanting something that the other party doesn't. Unless the explicit reason gets mentioned disagreements with management is the best excuse for saving face for both parties.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Do you think cover management (and maybe even Fauna) regrets agreeing to let her say "disagreements with management"? For management because it's showing that there are problems behind the scenes and for Fauna because people are now making rrats that other EN members hate her or are throwing each other under the bus.

I think Fauna might regret not at least indicating where the issue was.

This is the first Graduation where it is not 100% clear what the issue was.

But Holo has been dealing with rrats for years.

If there was actually a big problem, the bigger talent would be saying so. Until that happens they are not going to worry too much.

 

[Bobbobson]

Years from now, when Hololive is no more and NDAs have no power it will be a huge rat race between ex members to stream and elaborate on all those vague statements in graduation announcements. Vtuber who does that will become richer than Elon Musk from super chats and will fry enitre Youtube's infrastructure in process.

 

[paule]

Isn't this Cover Value Deck half a year old? Well I'm not surprised that people bring it up when it's time to shit on Cover. I have only checked /vt/ in the last few days and the baiting and shitposting is insane. I guess a lot of Nijis that were the punching bags for the last year were delighted about this opportunity.

Yeah but he made it sound like corpo vtubers are all making millions. I’d say as a whole vtubers are probably on the lower end compared to other types of content creators. I’d estimate most of the popular corpo vtubers are probably bringing in somewhere in the 100,000s of dollars but unless you have IronMouse level membership numbers I doubt most of the top corpos are making in the millions.

If you look at Covers latest financial report they say that they they have a revenue of 400 million yen per Vtuber, that 2.7 million USD per talent - on average. More than half of that comes from merchandise. Yes, that's not the net profit for the vtuber but I'm pretty sure that they always play down how much they really earn. There was also a chart in old reports that showed that the top 20 talents rake in 40 % of the total profit. These are surely millionaires

Honestly the likelyhood is some of the staff that was keeping things run well left or moved out of that role and the people that replaced them aren’t as good.

People underestimate how few changes are needed to screw up a company.

It's almost as if people have never worked in a regular job at a company before. Screw ups happen all the time when people work together.

Kronii just confirmed that while she has frustrations, none of them reach the level where she is upset enough to leave, and she wants to stay and isn't planning on going anywhere. She has lots she wants to do and wouldn't be talking about her complaints if she were at that point. That and she has never been forced to say anything and that she hates being forced to say things.

Basically she's not going anywhere.

a clip because why not

 

[Burnt Fish]

Do you think cover management (and maybe even Fauna) regrets agreeing to let her say "disagreements with management"? For management because it's showing that there are problems behind the scenes and for Fauna because people are now making rrats that other EN members hate her or are throwing each other under the bus.

Could she have more directly stated that her issues were specific to her and not some endemic problem in the company? sure, but at the same time I tend to not hold individual streamers responsible for the fact that retards are going to rrat no matter what.

The truth of the matter is the good faith people that think this is a sign of the endtimes were gonna doompost no matter what. And the people like /vt/ is overrun with currently making bad faith rrats just because they revel in the drama of it were going to find a way to do that no matter what. Nothing Fauna could have said was going to stop the "CGDCT lost to the Mori Clique" shitposting or the dumbass rrats people are posting over there trying to say Suisei and Miko are bullying people out of the company and that Suisei herself is basically management and is responsible for Cover's current "direction"

Schizos, both well intentioned and malevolent, are always gonna schizo

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

Tenma birthday stream soon

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Years from now, when Hololive is no more and NDAs have no power it will be a huge rat race between ex members to stream and elaborate on all those vague statements in graduation announcements. Vtuber who does that will become richer than Elon Musk from super chats and will fry enitre Youtube's infrastructure in process.

It is going to be funny as shit when that happens honestly, hope I live long enough.

 

[A shitty ass clover]

I mean, the unicorns aren’t wrong

This. bao is a known hoe and juniper's model is basically NSFW by default, the baffling thing is why are they complaining about it given that they don't even fucking hide it.

Could she have more directly stated that her issues were specific to her and not some endemic problem in the company? sure, but at the same time I tend to not hold individual streamers responsible for the fact that retards are going to rrat no matter what.

The truth of the matter is the good faith people that think this is a sign of the endtimes were gonna doompost no matter what. And the people like /vt/ is overrun with currently making bad faith rrats just because they revel in the drama of it were going to find a way to do that no matter what. Nothing Fauna could have said was going to stop the "CGDCT lost to the Mori Clique" shitposting or the dumbass rrats people are posting over there trying to say Suisei and Miko are bullying people out of the company and that Suisei herself is basically management and is responsible for Cover's current "direction"

Schizos, both well intentioned and malevolent, are always gonna schizo

The problem is that anyone can say anything and could make sense given all the little things that we know. Not only that but it can take years before we know the truth of the matter. It's been years since Kson left hololive and all we know yet is just snippets

 

[6MillionCoofs]

the baffling thing is why are they complaining about it given that they don't even fucking hide it.

Right. I think it’s more ‘you can’t be another man’s hoe’.

It's been years since Kson left hololive and all we know yet is just snippets

Yeah but those have painted a clear picture. She kept mangement pulling their hair out so a lot of them wanted her gone and she wanted to do more things.

 

[Papa stink]

IRyS has also made a response

While I definitely won't say it's a nothing burger the enshittification isn't as severe as people were making it out to be at first (at least not yet). Again not saying that management isn't shit but we haven't reached Kurolive already. The doomposting on mainstream platforms seemed to have calmed down (/vt/ baiters will hang on to this forever though). Still should keep an eye out for further signs of enshittification or god forbid DEI shit.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Do you think cover management (and maybe even Fauna) regrets agreeing to let her say "disagreements with management"? For management because it's showing that there are problems behind the scenes and for Fauna because people are now making rrats that other EN members hate her or are throwing each other under the bus.

if theres one more graduation soon I think Hololive will lose all its goodwill, it wont be like Ninjisanji, but people are going to start preferring Indie VTubers (which is already happening to some extent)

 

[Scarthew]

if theres one more graduation soon I think Hololive will lose all its goodwill, it wont be like Ninjisanji, but people are going to start preferring Indie VTubers (which is already happening to some extent)

Jobs don't last forever, EN's quitting should surprise nobody because of the travel and culture difference. As for the others some have been at it for the better part of a decade, if they leave it's just natural at that point.