Has no family, desecrates the church as his dating app, insists that doing missionary with him is a God-given privilege for all those poor women oppressed by modernity. I fucking hate Internet converts because it never is about personal faith with you. It's always about cajoling others (usually vulnerable women) into your fantasy world.
First of all, you know nothing about me. I am not an internet convert I was born into this faith, experienced a lapse in it, and returned after an encounter with Christ. My faith is deeply personal and I believe personal faith is one of the most important things someone can have. I am not trying to cajole anyone into my fantasy, and Catholics have never asserted that the missionary position is the only acceptable option. If you want to play with ad hominem you should remember it only works when its accurate and even then it's still a fallacy.
Women, just like men, have aspirations that go beyond having children.
I'm not saying they don't, I'm asking what they are so we can discuss whether they're really more important than having children or not.
To take the Catholic church as an example, nuns can become perfectly fulfilled women by embracing worship as a way of life. They don't need a child to be complete.
That's a fine point and if any women replied to my post saying they aspire to devote their lives to God in such a way I would applaud and encourage them. I find that outcome unlikely but I would never rule it out. I myself would like to be a married permanent Deacon but if that doesn't pan out I would strongly consider the priesthood.
To power level as a man, mine was to become the first college-educated person in my family and to break out of the circle of poverty imposed on us by the church and state.
Congratulations, you fell for the college is important meme. I hope you got a scholarship or went to a state school because otherwise you spent a small fortune to get indoctrinated in liberal bullshit. I know because I also went to college and experienced it first hand. How did the church impose poverty on you anyway? That sounds like some big time cope to me.
Hannah Neeleman is an example of an extremely talented ballerina whose career in the arts was destroyed by her trust fund Mormon husband.
>Mormon
Well there's your problem. Also, is being a ballerina impossible for someone who's had kids? Are mothers not allowed to do ballet?
Rather than pursue excellence in the arts after finishing Julliard, she's now being humiliated on camera by her husband for the sake of promoting their Christian lifestyle.
Imagine thinking mormons are living a christian lifestyle. It's a cult that follows the words of a convicted conman.
. It's always people like you who are most sheltered that cannot imagine people having life goals beyond children because you're usually born and spend your entire lives in first world countries.
I didn't choose to be born where I was born any more than you did. This is a stupid assertion and again, I'm not saying people don't have life goals beyond children, I'm asking what they are because I doubt they're actually more important and I want to discuss it.
You have no aspirations of self-sufficiency or excellence in art or science.
Self-sufficiency isn't something you aspire to, its just part of life. To call it an aspiration is genuinely sad. As far as art or science, excellence in either is not mutually exclusive to having and raising children. My grandfather was a very successful and influential medical doctor and still had a big family with lots of kids.
It's all about fucking, eating and doing everything to gain societal approval.
I don't give two shits about societal approval. Society is fickle and tends to worship the current thing. I care only about the approval of God and trying to live as he wants us to live. Hence my interest in this discussion and the stance I've taken thus far.
Complete dependence on someone is either a privilege or a curse. Not every woman has the security of running back to her rich father after her even richer husband suffers a midlife crisis. They need that corporate job to ensure that they do not become destitute after their husband dies or leaves them.
Have you considered the fact that marriage isn't suppose to be something you just abandon when it becomes inconvienient? It's a deep and permanent bond. If her husband is suffering a mid life crisis then she should be there for him to help him through it and keep him from going astray. Additionally these days its usually the women who's extramarital activities cause such issues and that precious corporate job you're so in favor of is one of the most common sources of such infidelities. If a husband leaves his wife that's just as wrong as if a wife leaves her husband. It's also not relevant to my question which is based on the precondition of a loving and devoted husband. Likewise the idea that she would ever become destitute is not a relevant concern because the other precondition is that he can afford all of her needs and that includes making sure she's provided for if he predeceases her.
Others want to make their name known and not be defined by actions of other people.
Shortsighted vanity and pride. Both sinful.
How can you be so fucking sheltered?
How can you be so fucking blinded by anger at the strawman you've made of me that you're unable to actually answer the question. Ya know what, scratch that, you're not a woman, the question wasnt for you. Why do you feel entitled to speak for women?
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desecrates the church as his dating app
I want to bring this bit up specifically because it shows just how blatant your ad hominem is. You didn't even bother trying to look through my post history because I've literally stated the opposite of this.
The obvious answer is through Church and Church functions but I am hesistant to turn my place of worship into a dating market. It feels wrong.
