Orbiter DarkSydePhil A-Logs General - Infighting and Cringe Galore (Sons of Kojima, et al)

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Will suprczy actually file a lolsuit against Philip Paul Burnell?

  • Yes

    Votes: 34 18.4%
  • No

    Votes: 162 87.6%

  • Total voters
    185
For some reason I can't quote the guy on the previous page that replied to me, but this is @Brother Milor:

About the missing sleep: I've watched a fair bit of TBS and ALT's streams and I've never seen him make these comments nor has he ever come across as sleep deprived to me. It would be nice to be linked the streams where he makes these comments. To me he always seems quite energetic.

Pretty much the only reason why I don't watch other detractors anymore is that ALT seems to be the only one that is actually having fun with it and laughing instead of just getting very angry at DSP. You're making it sound like this guy is neglecting his real life and mental well-being and throwing it all away in pursuit of DSP detracting. To me it sounds more like a situation where a few times he ended up losing track of time and staying up late 'cause he was invested in a thing he was doing. Who the fuck hasn't been there? Could be that I'm wrong and it would be nice to be linked the evidence or pointed in the right direction. I just don't see it.

He's streaming 20-30 hours a week, but do we know how much time he has to spend on his actual real job? Isn't he a translator or some shit? He's not working 50 hours a week in the factory and then coming home to neglect his family and restream DSP.

You say he's ''adopting his mannerisms, his streaming style, and catering to his audience''? He's using DSP-isms in his speech as a joke and to mock DSP. He might go a little overboard with it, but it's obviously all in good fun. If you think he's adopting his streaming style and catering to his audience I don't think you've ever watched a DSP stream or an ALT stream. They are nothing alike. This is pretty much like DSP saying RTU wants to be like him and wear his skin because he used DSP's office as a greenscreen background. Just a weird thing to take away from it.

About the faucet thing: Something we laugh and make fun of DSP for is his inability to use words correctly. So if you come in here and do the same thing while saying puzzling stuff like ''this guy is a huge weirdo because he took trips to Japan and talked about them'' then you might get dunked on for it. It was just a little throwaway comment that the guy then got incredibly mad about so I doubled down on it in another throwaway comment. Interpreting this as me taking it as a ''significant victory'' and it displaying emotional investment is very strange to me.

Anyways, that's more words than I ever would've wanted to type about a fucking DSP detractor.
 
Since you all asked for this, here is my 100% objective detractor list.

---- Absolutely based tier ----
Suprcrzy - Scammed the dentractors for 3K and left with the money. Also tried to rob a train. Unbelievably based.

---- Based tier ----
Meerkat - Clowned on Phil, didn't take it seriously, had fun and bailed.
Sam the dentist - Dunked on Phil just enough and bailed on time.
LSB - Started the WWEC arc long ago by discovering Lineapp. Tried to rebrand as William the Alchemist, the channel is now dead.

---- Autistic tier ----
ALT - The center of autistic galaxy. Addict drunk on his current internet fame. Ignores his family to hang out with strangers on line.
Snood - Cuck with a humiliation fetish. Loves when ALT publicly shames him. Canadian.
Indrid - Former druggie. Lives with parents in her 30's. Probably has no job. Zero personality, and I mean zero. What a catch. Canadian.
An1337 - played WWEC for a few months just because Phil did. Also a massive weeb. The man thought Perry Caravelo was funny.
Piece of peace - Has more in common with DSP than he realizes. Fake Buddhist.

---- Shit / sewer tier ----
assorted retards and nobodies go here

Marked one - Inferiority complex incarnate. Simps for porn stars. Will realize sooner or later his lifestyle is unsustainable and unnatural.
Ludwig world order - Failed detractor, tried to get clout by doing 3D models and a few songs. Current editor for Gundam.
Doody streams - Liar and clickbaiter.
James the Lesser Express Lane - Liar, fabricates drama.
Steve of the dead - LARP as a psychologist, wasted his education.
ChillMurray7 - Not chill at all, the man can't control his emotions. Full of estrogen.
Brandood - Boring
Atlus the bookkeeper - Boring
Agent proper - Nobody. Has a failed copy of KiwiFarms, Goutopia.
ShinkoFleur‬ - Nobody
Deceptricon - Nobody
Len the deranged - Nobody
BroSydePhil - Nobody
Ry Drake - Nobody
DJ runo - Former DSP fan. Ravens Dolphins cuck.
Aqua Teal - Supports Raven and thus, pedophilia.
Ravens Dolphin - Actual pedophile.
And everyone who made content for WPIG / TBS for contests. ALT is just using you, you're just too dumb to realize it.

Feel free to add or make your own list.
 
ALT doesn't move my 'Tism needle much in any direction, but one thing he said like a year ago I thought was really stupid: he said if hypothetically DSP had a stroke and died tommorow, he (ALT) would be able to continue detracting full time for years to come because of all the old stuff to go over and watch or rewatch. This is ridiculous. People tune in to DSP because he streams reliably/regularly but paradoxically is so unhinged you never know when we will get a Fapcident v2.0 or something just as crazy. Once he's gone the hype and suspense will be gone, no one will be interested in old shit. The only reason old shit is possibly interesting at all is because it gives context to whatever crazy shit he might do tommorow.

People tune into global weather to see if there's a big fucking Hurricane going on today, even if it's on the other side of the planet. They don't look up June 24, 2014 global weather (It's just maybe a few fanatics or professional meteorologists charting patterns). I'm not a religious person, but I think some religions teach you to not get attached to things, and to be able to let things go. If DSP croaked, I think it'd be a good sign from the Universe/God/Common Sense/Whatever you want to call to "let it go."
About the missing sleep: I've watched a fair bit of TBS and ALT's streams and I've never seen him make these comments nor has he ever come across as sleep deprived to me. It would be nice to be linked the streams where he makes these comments. To me he always seems quite energetic.
I have shitposted a lot on this forum and I've never spun yarns, if I've been wrong it's within a small margin of error that would be reasonably allowed for accidentally mis-remembering details. I swear on baby Jesus around summer 2024 I heard him say he was sacrificing sleep to be able to stream more and more. Someone in chat asked how he was doing it and that was his answer. It stuck out to me cus it's like... "why would someone publicly admit this, almost like a flex, this is embarrassing." And I'm 95% sure he was being dead serious about it. And you can be energetic/manic while sleep deprived, especially if caffeinated. He subsequently became slower to recall things, does verbal "typos" more (swaps words and letters around, almost like a drunkard), and is not as funny (though I guess that part is subjective). In other words, you trade cognitive quality for quantity.
Piece of peace - Has more in common with DSP than he realizes.
I like PoP but I agree with this. I think he has internal guilt and insecurity about his path in life, and that's what has drawn him to the vortex. And speaking of sleep deprivation, I guess he's going to be busy with a baby soon so he'll probably ride off into the sunset to greener pastures anyways, Mazel Tov.
 
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Didn't get incredibly mad @Azuma Ninja. Talking shit cause I didn't check autocorrect was just a dumb argument grade schoolers make when losing. It was childish and you went full blown autism and leaned into it.

You really love supporting ALT. People here have posted why they think he has serious problems but you bury your head in the sand and won't listen to them.

We get it, you think ALT is the second coming when it comes to people who talk about Phil.
 
For some reason I can't quote the guy on the previous page that replied to me
You sometimes cannot quote long posts (I think Null made the change some time ago). If you wished to do for certain parts, you can highlight the specific part of the text you want, then a box will pop up, and you'll be able to click on "+ Quote".
I swear on baby Jesus around summer 2024 I heard him say he was sacrificing sleep to be able to stream more and more. Someone in chat asked how he was doing it and that was his answer.
I was curious about this and gave it a try. Got some chatlogs and did a basic search, but too many results for generic questions to ALT, and some streams don't have the chat archived so it could be missing altogether.

If you want to regex the question (video ID would be at the top of the chat block), but warning, the file has 1669226 lines because everything is in 1 file (because why not) :story: .
 

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It's fine to not like ALT. There are plenty of people that I don't like because they just so happen to rub me the wrong way and I don't like their faggot ass voice or face or whatever. It's a completely normal thing. But you don't have to try to justify that with weird speculation like him supposedly not being the perfect family man that you think he should be. Even though from what I can tell there is no way to know anything about that from his streams. Just say that you think he seems like a fag. No need to be a weird mf about it like some people have been doing.
 
LSB - Started the WWEC arc long ago by discovering Lineapp. Tried to rebrand as William the Alchemist, the channel is now dead.

I used to really enjoy LSB's comfy tractor restreams with that derpy dog of his, but his retreat after SuperFaggy's strike threats was exceptionally gay. I'll never forgive him for never doing the "DSP cult leader" documentary he promised us all ("...the goal was for a TRAIL-OOORRR... A TRAIL-OOOOORRRRR!!!").
 
Once he's gone the hype and suspense will be gone, no one will be interested in old shit.
I agree with your main point, but there'd definitely be a few "Good riddance" months, where they would draw strong numbers, doing some kind of "this was your life" highlight reel of DSPs pointless existence. Not sure how long they could stretch it out, but otherwise agree with you, interest would quickly wane.
 
he said if hypothetically DSP had a stroke and died tommorow, he (ALT) would be able to continue detracting full time for years to come because of all the old stuff to go over and watch or rewatch. This is ridiculous.
Phil is the most uninteresting and boring human being in the history of very boring and uninteresting historical figures. Now that doesn't mean a post death documentary "The Life And Times of Phil Burnell" wouldn't be interesting for when he dies but to continue for years after?

How many new age boomers would that pull in 25 to 30 years from now? Less than 1,500? Less than 200? Only the most dedicated detractors in their 40s would cherish the memory of a dead guy jacking off on stream. For ALT the birth of his grandchildren would rank 2nd place. Can't convince me this guy isn't a sped when he says detracting full time is his future.

He should be smart and scam his dented audience for $3,000 on some lolsuit and fuck off on a stolen train. Pocket what he can from them while it lasts.
 
I agree with your main point, but there'd definitely be a few "Good riddance" months, where they would draw strong numbers, doing some kind of "this was your life" highlight reel of DSPs pointless existence. Not sure how long they could stretch it out, but otherwise agree with you, interest would quickly wane.
Agree, then I think there would be an autistic power vacuum where there's detractor infighting for a few months, which would also be entertaining. The way ALT was framing it is that he was going to be able keep going in a routine for years to come like it was syndicated re-runs of Seinfeld - nawt gonna happen. His content (or any other detractor content) is not the same as Seinfeld or friggin Gilligan's Island or whatever.
How many new age boomers would that pull in 25 to 30 years from now? Less than 1,500? Less than 200? Less than 200?
That far out? Probably 0 viewers. By then several more people will have fapped on stream replacing him as the META "fapguy." In 30 years we might be on a new version of the internet and youtube and other archive sources might not even exist anymore, all his trash content will vaporize into the ether, without a trace. The DSP brand has never even existed in physical media form (I don't think so, at least). To this day a lot of good bands have Vinyl releases for their new albums, just to put things in perspective. A Youtube channel filled with slop makes a legacy not.

Edit: to be fair I guess merch counts as physical media(it has artwork on it??), but really how many DSP T-shirts will have not been turned into rags in 10 years?
 
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What I don't get is : What do people want from DSP? He's a retard who sucks at games and treats his base like So, what are they wanting for a let's play/playthrough? Perfection? I guess I'm in the minority when I want a video that's semi-competent? But, Seeing the same shit over and over is boring. And that goes both ways. I don't want to watch a video of someone playing SMB3 and getting the flutes and warping to the last world. That's boring to watch. However, I do not want to watch someone die over and over in the first stage of world 1.
I see Sonic videos of glitching through the stages, Like do you even LIKE the games??
I shouldn't be too surprised considering.. Speedrunning brings a certain :autism: and so does Sonic.
My point is and why I'm posting this : a lot of it seems like nitpicking and a-logging.
 
My point is and why I'm posting this : a lot of it seems like nitpicking and a-logging
Is it? I mean...you opened the post saying that Phil sucks at game and treats his viewers poorly. Those are easily the two biggest things keeping him from being successful. Saying it's just people nitpicking and a-logging implies the problems with Phil aren't actually that big and people are just looking for minor things to complain about. And, uhh, speedrunning sucks, I guess? I'm not sure what that has to do with Phil since his idea of speedrunning is completing a tutorial section in a single stream instead of finding a way to drag it out to 3 streams.

As for what people wants, that depends on what view you're asking from. For a lot of us, we're happy that Phil sucks at games and treats his audience like crap, that's where a lot of the funny comes from. As for what his viewers want from Phil, it's mostly a parasocial relationship. It's probably easier to say what they don't want, and that's Phil insulting a game/show/person they like. Generally, as long as Phil avoids that, they're happy with whatever keys he jingles in front of their eyes.

If you're asking in a general sense what would it take for Phil to be successful as a streamer and get the redemption run he craves, that's a lot harder to answer. I think at this point, it's impossible unless Phil strokes out so hard his personality changes. I used to think there were a few little things he could do that would actually improve his streams. Playing Champions, getting into politics, going onto kick, doing drama streams. And some of those saw little bursts of success for his business, but didn't actually last for one reason or another. Maybe the one glimmer of hope is Phil getting into IRL streaming, but I think much like the drama streams, he just doesn't have the social skills for it, so there might be an initial surge of interest because watching Phil stumble around in the wild is new and exciting, but Phil would find some way to drain the life out of it when it just turns into an extended pre-stream of him playing with RGB lights.
 
Phil sucks at game and treats his viewers poorly. Those are easily the two biggest things keeping him from being successful.
Him sucking ass at games isn't a problem though, not really anyway. It's the way he sucks at them that's his problem. He went from being a drunk retard trying as hard as he possibly can to speedrun games he has never played in his life to fucking Shifty Phil's Video Game Slowruns where he reads menus for 45 minutes then walks around accomplishing almost nothing until it's time to clock out. That shit is cancer to any type of viewer, not even the fucking dents watch his sorry ass gameplay.

His ultimate problem is this bullshit "Mr. Professional" persona he's developed that's sucking the life out of everything he does. He's gotten way too attatched to it and it's basically tricked him into being content with getting asspats from actual retards like Jayde for buying enough expensive toys, or having "meaningful, intelligent commentary", or for seeing every pixel and polygon a game has to offer. Meanwhile the in reality of the situation is that he only has a semblance of charisma when he's pointing at the TV screaming like a chimp over how bullshit a game is because he put himself in some absurd situation that not a single soul that's ever played it has ever encountered, or because he has to repeat five minutes of gameplay after he somehow managed to clip himself through the floor and die, or because he got lost in an area that's basically a straight line. Sure most of the viewers that type of content will bring in are gonna be detractors, but he's completely out of options here. The Casino gave him his best chance at turning things around the way he probably wants to, and he completely squandered it with his Mr. Professional shit. 2012 DSP is the only way he's getting anywhere at this point.
 
I'd also like to add that An, Brandood, and Atlus are all clones of Tevin.
I don't like what a nerd Atlus sounds like yet he tries to talk like a Gen z wigger.
Atlus has one video from early on where he wasn’t doing his brrrs and clicks imitating Tevin. The vocal stuff is just a weird choice that he claims is not put on. No one believes him: Even though he’s well-liked among the detractor rank-and-file they ask about his fake speech pattern regularly. He’s kind of fucked. If he sounds normal tomorrow, that becomes its own thing.
Oh and he also bites off Memology’s visual style massively. Like crazy.
I think Snood has something do to with IT
Yeah, Snood mentioned what sounded like a full-time job today on stream with ALT. Snood also mentioned having been in long-term relationships with women which I find less plausible but okay.

Speaking of ALT, he’s clearly making hay while the sun shines. He puts effort in and seems to genuinely enjoy the work. I think he can be very funny—he’s made the sudden, snarled “TIRED OF IT!” part of my lexicon and I laugh every time he does it. He also seems to be a pretty plugged-in parent/husband. Coaches hockey, takes care of the pets, etc.
 
What do people want from DSP?
Phil is a bad person. (this is an objective fact)
Phil is a bad person who thinks he's good.
Phil is a bad person who thinks he's better than everyone else.
Phil is a bad person who constantly moralfags others and proceeds to do exactly what he says he hates.
Phil is abusive and manipulative.
Phil has crippling addictions that will always haunt him.
Phil is cursed with profound lack of self awareness, and will die not understanding why people hate him.

I would want Phil to remain exactly as he is.

Only touristfags think any of this is about being bad at video games.

I just like seeing bad things happen to bad people.
 
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