Disaster Dozens killed as passenger plane crashes in Kazakhstan - No it wasn't a Boeing.

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Dozens of people have died after a passenger plane crashed with 67 people on board in Kazakhstan, local officials say.

Authorities in Azerbaijan, where the flight originated, say there were at least 30 survivors.

Azerbaijan Airlines flight J2-8243 caught fire as it attempted to make an emergency landing near the Kazakh city of Aktau.

The plane was en route to Grozny in Russia but it was diverted due to fog, the airline told the BBC.

Video verified by Reuters news agency shows the plane heading towards the ground at high speed, with its landing gear down.

Seconds after it seems to attempt to land, a huge fireball erupts.

The airline said the plane "made an emergency landing" about 3km (1.9 miles) from Aktau.

It took off from the Azerbaijani capital Baku at 03:55 GMT on Wednesday, and crashed around 06:28, data from flight-tracking website Flightradar24 showed.

There were 62 passengers and 5 crew members on board the Embraer 190 aircraft, the transport ministry said.

Those on board were mostly Azerbaijani nationals, but there were also some passengers from Russia, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.

Out of the 25 known survivors, 22 were taken to hospital, the emergency ministry said.

Unverified video footage showed emergency services pulling people out of the wreckage and survivors crawling out.

Both Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan have launched investigations into the cause of the accident. Embraer told the BBC it was "ready to assist all relevant authorities".

The BBC has contacted Azerbaijan Airlines for comment.

The aircraft involved was an Embraer E190, the Brazilian company is a smaller rival to Boeing and Airbus, it traditionally has a strong safety record.

 

[Google.com]

Fuck you all but especially you for going up and beyond mere Russia bad retardation.

Five crew members and the black box has been found so just wait until the investigation.

I think it shows progress, first the soviets were ramming civilian planes with fighter jets bravely destroying both aircraft, then they advanced to using their machine guns and now they are even using missiles what an innovative country you should be proud.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

you should be proud

I don't believe the US shooting down civilian planes is anything to be proud of but you do you.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Fuck you all but especially you for going up and beyond mere Russia bad retardation.

Five crew members and the black box has been found so just wait until the investigation.

If it turns out that the Russians shot down (another) commercial airliner, are you going to blame the Jews? Or will you be more creative?

 

[LaxerBRO]

I don't believe the US shooting down civilian planes is anything to be proud of but you do you.

We learn from the best:
Korean Air 007

 

[Silent Seeth]

Listen up, I have played command and conquer Zero hour for 1200 hours, so I know more than you about weapons and warfare:

Spoiler: AA missile damage = the crash damage

PIC 1: Drone shot at by AA missile Pic 2: Crash Wreckage

(The infographic is specifically from MH-17)


Damage pattern looks like it is from the rear, generic soviet AA missiles (Any despot worth a damn owns tonnes of these) generally use the shrapnel method for AA because it's effective and you don't need to be precise.

"Semi-active radar homing (SARH) is a common type of missile guidance system, perhaps the most common type for longer-range air-to-air and surface-to-air missile systems.
The name refers to the fact that the missile itself is only a passive detector of a radar signal—provided by an external ("offboard") source—as it reflects off the target."
- Wikipedia (Did actually check sources though)

So the missile itself is just using returns from an actual base station RADAR. It wouldn't care about the engines or whatever, its just homing in on a radio signal.

Could be basically any country there, but it's almost certain it's an AA missile.



Also I am right because that's how the SAM sites worked in C&C. How else could they detect Colonel Burton?

 

[Standardized Profile]

Absolutely retarded.

Hundreds of commercial airliners fly through Russian airspace every single day,

Pretty sure they're used to it, and can tell a commercial airliner from some cabbage nigger rigged Ukrainian drone.

Indeed they can. And they still shoot them down. KAL 902, KAL 007, and MH 17 come to mind. Once is happenstance; twice is coincidence; three times is enemy action. This being the fourth time, it's pretty safe to assume it's Russia's unique blend of aggression and incompetence until proven otherwise.

 

[Google.com]

I don't believe the US shooting down civilian planes is anything to be proud of but you do you.

If your going to do something atleast do it right. Russia on the other hand tied to an unarmed cargo plane.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Fuck you all but especially you for going up and beyond mere Russia bad retardation.

Five crew members and the black box has been found so just wait until the investigation.

The hole patterns are pretty conclusive on the fuselage. The only thing that creates those sorts of holes that show metal blown into the chassis of the aircraft is shrapnel spread anti-aircraft missile detonation. This isn't "Russia Bad Retardation". This is just more pointing out that barely literate Central Asian monkeys with Surface to Air missiles shot down another civilian airliner.

 

[YarrBlueballs]

Time for the Russian Roulette (hah) of the 2nd & 3rd world blame game, featuring Soviet-era mental gymnastics from countries that literally never learn.

Lets see who'll podium. There's lots of hope for the Russian delegation, but any shitty country with -stan at the end of it's name is fighting for a spot! Or will the dark horse of Ukraine come in clutch? We'll find out after a brief message from our sponsor, Malaysian Airlines.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

We learn from the best:
Korean Air 007

Maybe don't venture into restricted airspace? Weird, I know.

If it turns out that the Russians shot down (another) commercial airliner, are you going to blame the Jews? Or will you be more creative?

I thought you worshipped the jews? Make up your mind goy. Fish or cut bait.

barely literate Central Asian monkeys with Surface to Air missiles shot down another civilian airliner.

The mental gymnastics being performed here are over which barely literate Central Asian monkeys; NAFO's favorites or Moscow's favorites, while the bodies were still warm. It's also Hanukkah so I guess this is just another version of spin the dreidel for the "Israel I mean Ukraine did nuffin wrong" crowd.

 

[LillyTheBestGirl]

I don't believe the US shooting down civilian planes is anything to be proud of but you do you.

"And you are lynching Negroes"

 

[Feline Supremacist]

"And you are lynching Negroes"

We did but this time we're setting them on fire because boomers outsourced it to illegals.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Also I am right because that's how the SAM sites worked in C&C. How else could they detect Colonel Burton?

Oh, is this the new cope? Its not our fault our own national air defense can't do deconfliction, its the fault of the retards who keep wanting to fly into our country?

I thought you worshipped the jews? Make up your mind goy. Fish or cut bait.

Oy vey, you are a such a hateful shishka! What did the Jews do to you? Show me on the menorah where they touched you.

The mental gymnastics being performed here are over which barely literate Central Asian monkeys; NAFO's favorites or Moscow's favorites, while the bodies were still warm. It's also Hanukkah so I guess this is just another version of spin the dreidel for the "Israel I mean Ukraine did nuffin wrong" crowd.

The bodies are still warm guys! We can't cast blame unless that blame is aimed at NAFO and the perfidious Jews! I just span the dreidel and it says Russia are good boys who dindu nuffin, and I am going to keep saying /pol/ buzzwords in the hope that one of them will stick!

 

[Lian Xing]

 

[WelperHelper99]

Maybe don't venture into restricted airspace? Weird, I know.

How about confirm what you're shooting at dumbass. That is hillbilly shit.

 

[mindlessobserver]

How about confirm what you're shooting at dumbass. That is hillbilly shit.

Especially since all civilian airliners broadcast in the clear their identification. The idiots on the ground could quite literally bring up flight radar tracking on their cell phones and would be able to not just see if there is an airliner near them, they can even pull their call sign and current altitude. Instantly.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The bodies are still warm guys! We can't cast blame unless that blame is aimed at NAFO and the perfidious Jews! I just span the dreidel and it says Russia are good boys who dindu nuffin, and I am going to keep saying /pol/ buzzwords in the hope that one of them will stick!

I haven't been on 4chan in eons meanwhile its clear you hang out in the /k/ope section. Get with the times gramps, its the current year.

How about confirm what you're shooting at dumbass. That is hillbilly shit.

That shit happened decades before your were whelped, otherwise you'd know it had been off limits since before the Cold War started. How about you fly over the White House, unnannounced, without pre-approval and non-responsive with @mindlessobserver then come back and tell us what happened (protip: you won't because you'd both be dead).

 

[Ted's Cabin]

Thinking about this incident always gives me a swoop of anxiety in my gut. It's one thing for a cataclysmic failure to instantly rip you from life, but to be stuck in a minimally controlled aircraft for half a fucking hour building suspense... Guh.

And once again, tail riders live to regret their choice to fly.

It gets even better than that because a good amount of them survived the crash and were left to die because it was dark and they assumed they were already dead.

A JSDF helicopter later spotted the wreck after nightfall. Poor visibility and the difficult mountainous terrain prevented it from landing at the site. The pilot reported from the air no signs of survivors. Based on this report, JSDF personnel on the ground did not set out to the site on the night of the crash. Instead, they were dispatched to spend the night at a makeshift village erecting tents, constructing helicopter landing ramps, and engaging in other preparations, 63 kilometres (39 miles) from the crash site. Rescue teams set out for the site the following morning. Medical staff later found bodies with injuries suggesting that people had survived the crash only to die from shock, exposure overnight in the mountains, or injuries that, if tended to earlier, would not have been fatal.[19] One doctor said, "If the discovery had come 10 hours earlier, we could have found more survivors."[7]

One of the four survivors, off-duty Japan Air Lines flight purser Yumi Ochiai (落合 由美, Ochiai Yumi) recounted from her hospital bed that she recalled bright lights and the sound of helicopter rotors shortly after she awoke amid the wreckage, and while she could hear screaming and moaning from other survivors, these sounds gradually died away during the night.[19]

 

[Lian Xing]

its the current year.

It's current year plus nine.

How about you fly over the White House, unnannounced, without pre-approval and non-responsive with @mindlessobserver then come back and tell us what happened (protip: you won't because you'd both be dead).

You'd be interdicted 30 nm out when you failed to contact ATC when transiting into the DC ADIZ. You get multiple opportunities to change course, get intercepted, and escorted out before you'd be shot down.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

So are we enforcing the one-word reply rule again or not? Because two people on the first page are now banned from the subforum for violating a rule that gets violated all the time in nearly every thread, featured or not.