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Around 2016 there was a subreddit r/TheDonald. It was a major hub of Trump's online fanbase. It was a more palatable (i.e. not as racist) version of 4chans Pepe MAGA frog memes.

Reddit throttled it. Then censored it. Then eventually banned it. Which was part of the overall wave of social media censoring of the right wing or anti-woke.

r/TheDonald migrated to their own website, and after internal betrayal and drama ended up with Patriots.win as their website.

I checked in on them today. Seems like whoever runs the place is trying to steer the users towards pro-Elon pro-H1B side. And the users are not cooperating and dissenting.

The mods pin/sticky threads they want to be popular. They are heavy handed in this.
Their first attempt at narrative control did not go well:
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The users managed to get their own thread to the front page organically (which is rare):
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The Gateway Pundit is a common news source on Patriots.win so censoring it would be very obvious.

The mods newest attempt to narrative control is to say that the liberal left MSM is attempting to drive a wedge between Trump and Elon with the "H1B psyop". The users are having none of it.
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I do not post their, but was curious to see how the more Steve Bannon adjacent MAGA people were reacting.
 
H1b get almost no benefits. No retirement. No health benefits. No Medicare/social security (yes I know it won't be there when current crop retires but they still don't have to match it). If they are fired or let go, there is no severance pay. While actual salary may be comparable, the benefits of the job in terms of healthcare, childcare, and job security are not there. There is often no upward movement for them. If they ask for a raise, or argue about working conditions, the company can terminate the H1b contract and they are forced to move back to their origin country. It is an extremely large benefit to companies to hire on H1b than an actual employee.
Yes, slavery is wrong and has always been wrong.

It's like with Mexicans. Either they have merit and deserve the same living pay and benefits as others, or they shouldn't get the job. I'm so sick of corporations saying that slavery is actually heckin' awesome and good for a slight profit gain.
 
Around 2016 there was a subreddit r/TheDonald. It was a major hub of Trump's online fanbase. It was a more palatable (i.e. not as racist) version of 4chans Pepe MAGA frog memes.

>mfw I realize this was 8 years ago and 4 years ago and people need to be reminded of it

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If I remember it well Patriots.win also had a big issue with one of the founders jumping ship and turning coat on them, so it makes sense that the mods are not the hardcore MAGA people they were way back in the day and pushing shit like this.
 
Around 2016 there was a subreddit r/TheDonald. It was a major hub of Trump's online fanbase. It was a more palatable (i.e. not as racist) version of 4chans Pepe MAGA frog memes.

Reddit throttled it. Then censored it. Then eventually banned it. Which was part of the overall wave of social media censoring of the right wing or anti-woke.

r/TheDonald migrated to their own website, and after internal betrayal and drama ended up with Patriots.win as their website.

I checked in on them today. Seems like whoever runs the place is trying to steer the users towards pro-Elon pro-H1B side. And the users are not cooperating and dissenting.

The mods pin/sticky threads they want to be popular. They are heavy handed in this.
Their first attempt at narrative control did not go well:
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The users managed to get their own thread to the front page organically (which is rare):
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The Gateway Pundit is a common news source on Patriots.win so censoring it would be very obvious.

The mods newest attempt to narrative control is to say that the liberal left MSM is attempting to drive a wedge between Trump and Elon with the "H1B psyop". The users are having none of it.
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I do not post their, but was curious to see how the more Steve Bannon adjacent MAGA people were reacting.
The actual MAGA people who started that community are long gone now some of them were pretty chill for sure though. It wasn't even that reddit banned them either before the ban reddit would force mods in above the founders to moderate and also unmodded everyone to try to get the board deleted due to no moderation or whatever. It was actually pretty crazy how hard reddit was trying to directly fuck with them still haven't seen it that bad at any other time.

>mfw I realize this was 8 years ago and 4 years ago and people need to be reminded of it

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If I remember it well Patriots.win also had a big issue with one of the founders jumping ship and turning coat on them, so it makes sense that the mods are not the hardcore MAGA people they were way back in the day and pushing shit like this.
Ya the current group is probably barely actual MAGA at this point. The people who founded the subreddit got legit doxed and stuff so I think they just fucked off at a point or got paid to be a shill.
 
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my view of the whole situation

Economies are ultimately human driven for the benefit of humans. What's the point of importing cancer to make number go up when the end cause is suffering for all but a tiny few?
You know how stupid people cant connect cause and effect? Like they commit a crime and then when they later get arrested they think it's completely unfair because them in the past is some other person to them?
Well unfortunately the stock market has made everything work like that. Nobody cares about how a decision is going to completely fuck things in a few years, the only thing that matters is making the line go up today. If the line goes up today you did great work, when it all falls apart you'll be in another company anyway.
This is also why tech loves poojeets. Wow you wrote a million lines of shitty spaghetti code? Amazing, our white guys did the same job but only did 1000 lines of code and this means you did more!
Poojeets get the app working in half the time using copy/pasted code, it'll create 100x as much work when we try to add other stuff later but today they got it working faster so they're great! Saved us so much time and money!
 
Not to sound like a libertarian (or a dumbass,) but how would you offset a decent wage for your farmers without upping the price of your goods?
When we were kids we were brought to strawberry farms to pick our own. We loved that shit! Also had a friend with an orchard and kept bees. Again, loved going there and picking raspberries and peaches.

Closer to the ground, kids are. So bending down isn't as hard. Plus all kids SHOULD love climbing trees, get 'em on up there and have 'em chuck the fruit down. Put a target on the collection tarp or basket. Make a game out of it (whoever picks the most X gets Y).

In short, lower the age of child labor laws to allow farm kids to work part of the day during harvest time. It'd get them off of the clock app and teach them hard work. Plus fresh air and exercise.
 
You know how stupid people cant connect cause and effect? Like they commit a crime and then when they later get arrested they think it's completely unfair because them in the past is some other person to them?
Well unfortunately the stock market has made everything work like that. Nobody cares about how a decision is going to completely fuck things in a few years, the only thing that matters is making the line go up today. If the line goes up today you did great work, when it all falls apart you'll be in another company anyway.
This is also why tech loves poojeets. Wow you wrote a million lines of shitty spaghetti code? Amazing, our white guys did the same job but only did 1000 lines of code and this means you did more!
Poojeets get the app working in half the time using copy/pasted code, it'll create 100x as much work when we try to add other stuff later but today they got it working faster so they're great! Saved us so much time and money!
Seriously though even if the Jeets were theoretically competent or even better than the conventional employee why would they bust their ass? They know they’re scabs, they know chances are they are unlikely to be offered full time employment. There’s simply no incentive to be good at their job.
 
MTG siding with Musk and doing the whole "I hired foreigners (illegals) for my construction business because I just had to." She's the worst type of MAGA.

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The Meatball fags are gearing up again with this, and Fagpacks' real life alt returns:

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The best thing about this happening is it's as illuminating as the tranny issue is, only much worse because of how fluid the immigration scam is:

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Haley Pete Hegseth has priority say over Vivek and Elon over MIC due to the restrictions on citizenship. That means Elon was fucked from the start if the plan was to incorporate little rocket man into our defense spending. One of the good things about this administration is the dichotomy, if this discussion wasn’t being had and the traitors didn’t expose themselves like a monkey showing it’s ass I’d be worried.
 
So is DOGE dead now?

Vivek is cancerous, and Trump booted out folks like Scaramucci for less.

Elon might be brought to heel but Vivek is dun goofed hard.

And Elon is the one censoring.
Probably not dead but they need to be forced to dictate tweets that are about serious topics to trusted people before posting them. They need to go head down and just do what people wanted with DOGE the tech bros or whatever aren't going to win this one.

Vivek burned a lot of political capital honestly so DOGE has to work for him to be anything besides a Fox news talking head in the future. His statements were genuinely insane and disqualify him in most peoples eyes.

Elon has benefit of the doubt even in the bigtime MAGA circles because he legit funded 250 million a month for the ground game in the election for like 3-4 months but that is only going to last for so long. He needs to reign in his anti white retarded engineers as well.
 
He doesn’t have a superior intellect or work ethic, he just lacks ethics. He’s a con artist, not an entrepreneur.
So standard poojeet. I'll also do my victory lap for never trusting Vivek, the fucking shitskin.
Elon then conveniently rolls out new block features on X, i.e. censorship. Laura Loomer, the loudest H1B critic, loses her blue checkmark and ability to post tweets. That's where we are now.
So that is the limit of the free speech absolutist. I still trust Josh more to be fair than anybody else.
Elon slipping up while doing an interview as "Adrian" with DesTINY:
Leaving aside that playing with his alias is gay. Why oh fucking why does he go to cuckstiny of all people? Did Destiny also suck his cock?
I can't stop thinking about Vivek thinking people should have idolised Screech from Saved by the Bell. IIRC, he wasn't regularly shown to be smart or studious. There were some early episodes where he built a robot and he hung out with the nerds sometimes and got Tori Spelling as a nerd girlfriend, but overall Screech was an idiot with almost no ability to manage normal social interaction, who was always taken advantage of and was a bit of a sex pest.
Screech was also a kike lusting for nigger pussy. His actor also ended up being a gigantic fuck up though that's just the funny cherry on top.
Oh thank god. I was dangerously close to liking Musk, so glad he did something retarded to remind me he's a sperg.
Similar situation. Bullet dodged.
As someone who graduated with an STEM degree and is currently fighting the jeet hordes for any job that isn't a low pay help desk job, this really makes me MATI.

Corporations nowadays are not willing to give the fresh White men out from college a chance in the workforce, when they can hire foreign nonwhites who are able to work slave hours for less wages. They also have an incentive both financially and politically/optically to replace Whites in pursuit of the DEI initiative. The American people are being treated like second class citizens in their own country while third world scum get treated like kings.
I work in the sector. I have had juniors doing better work than some established developers and lightyears beyond the shit the jeets crap out.

Young people just need a chance and I'm sure there are a ton of true nationals with a burning desire to prove themselves (and are not held back by inferior genetics). Best I can say is good luck and keep trying. If you put the effort when you get a chance, I'm sure you will prove yourself in spades.
you thought wrong. This was democrat propaganda you huffed because hitler == isolationism. Think teddy Roosevelt

It’s such garbage as if you have to pick either or steriotype. You can be intellectually and physically fit. Mind body soul.
Another fun little part of propaganda. The most well rounded people do it all like you suggest. But media has been telling you for more than 50 years that if you are good at one you can totally ignore the other and coast by. Striving for excellence in body and mind has been eroded from our cultural zeitgeist.
don't need to ruin him, don't want to either. just need a little shock so he gets out of his autistic tantrum and actually listens.
The fucker still owns twitter and I'm not kidding myself into ignoring how important that thing was to stop electoral bullshit. The autist needs to be sent to the naughty corner and slapped with a rolled up newspaper, but you can't get rid of him yet.
Hear me out. How about… no immigration?
You so cray cray!
Poojeets get the app working in half the time using copy/pasted code, it'll create 100x as much work when we try to add other stuff later but today they got it working faster so they're great! Saved us so much time and money!
Sometimes not even that. The ones I've worked with for the most part are slow as shit and can go days without doing a commit. They either are two timming us and working for other companies at the same time or they are absolutely retarded. I thing it's both. Though of course if upper management dies dick about it, they deserve all the problems these fuckers generate...
 
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