Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Neil McCauley]

What’s some decent cold weather gear like gloves? I have a few 2gun matches coming up in January February and March and those months temps are usually in arctic conditions

Less pertaining to guns, but I have been wondering the same thing except stuff like clothes, food and backpacks.

 

[AGPinochet]

Vietnamese modernized Tokarev with an Acro cut



Artisanal 15rnd .22 mag Fillipino revolver, this is as far as I can tell the highest capacity single barreled revolver ever.


Captured VKS 12.7X55mm rifle (there is a small chance this will make it's way to the Royal Armories or another European gun museum/collection and either Jonathan Ferguson or Ian will make a video on it so I can finally once again see the baffle stack)


Halo-Point


Clear photo of the Keltec full auto PMR-30


HK Style gas tube/charging handle "VR-LPS" for Vityaz style firearms by Russian company Vector 7.62


Chinese Type 63 paratrooper model


Experimental vietnamese modification of an M16 into a RPK style automatic rifle


Saiga "Svarog" competition rifle, .223 chambering, lightened bolt, adjustable gas, left and right side charging (look at the safety notch, you can see through the receiver) and a Sureshot MK.2 Chassis


very poor quality image of a prototype Sureshot Armament (Russia) PCC that incorporated a P7 Style gas delay mechanism


Hoplite Industries (new zealand based digital nightvision company) "Xiphos" bullpup conversion of an Excel Arms MR-22


PP-71 integrally suppressed smg


An interesting rifle with an even more interesting doohickey on it. The rifle is a prototype transitional model between the AK-12 Obr. 2020 and the Obr.2023/AK-12M1. Must have been before the implemented the updated handguard.

The doohickey is the "GPR-20" which from what I understand from Google/Yandex translated Russian is an experimental grenade launcher that continues the evolution of the Russian caseless grenade design. From what I understand the GPR-20 is a two stage completely caseless rocket propelled munition. I assume that the munition has an "expelling charge" like on an RPG that propels it a safe distance from the firer before then igniting it's main propelling charge. That is, every canister attached to the launcher acts as it's own barrel. I have no idea whether that's a good design but the Russians tout that they could theoretically dramatically increase the size of the munition without much of an engineering challenge. They also claim recoil in comparison to some 12 gauge loads.

Pre-SMO donbass


PKM with a 240 heat shield and a chopped stock for some reason


MK-12 Mod H SPR upgraded with a KAC URX4 rail


Back in the day, before the SCAR Program, KAC, LMT and Robinson Armament competed in the SPR-V (Special Purpose Rifle-Variant) program that wanted to make a multi-caliber SOPMOD compatible rifle. Robinson submitted a variant of their M96 (The RAV-02, pronounced "Rave"), which was kind of sort of like a Stoner 63, but not really.


Interior of a Recover Tactical "Pix" Chassis

Lastly, something interesting I noticed.
On August 31st small time guntuber Czech My Guns uploaded to fairly little notice a video featuring not only the obscure ZB-47 submachinegun, but none other than Ian McCollum, in the midst of recording a video.

Ian uploaded his video on the ZB-47 on the 23rd of December. So Ian recorded a video in either late August or early September and only got around to releasing it in late December. Gives you some potential insight into how deep he keeps his video stash.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Here's something weird- an AGS w/ what looks like a suppressor.

Our Mk-19 isn't very loud, but I dunno how much louder the AGS is. Even if it is, I can't think of a reason to do this, other than they could.

 

[The Dude]

link?

p7pro.com. I was wrong on the price though. They're starting at about $2300.

 

[Bassomatic]

What’s some decent cold weather gear like gloves? I have a few 2gun matches coming up in January February and March and those months temps are usually in arctic conditions

If you don't go to 2 gun in mil surp you're a FUCKING FAGGOT.
>I'm wearing dope new plate carrier from some guy Jocko's podcast had on.
lose to a guy with a fucked up desert chokie chip tee shirt

No jokes aside, just get some cheap flektarn, no matter where you live girls get very wet for it.

For gloves, I'm sold on Mechanix. I trash gloves some how. I'm no Delta dude and I take care of my gear I trash em so just get something kinda last. tbh, buy thermal under clothes also.

 

[batterybee]

I consider all gloves disposable.

 

[The Dude]

Funny that the Robinson Arms RAV-02 got posted. Gather 'round kiddies, Grampa Dude has a story to tell. Years ago I owned a Robinson Arms XCR and became pretty tight with the RobArms crew when there was an XCR forum. Like, to the point where I used to hang out with them at the Robinson office/shop and would go out shooting with them when they would organize local shoots for the forum members. Alex would even ask my input on things he was working on, like the proprietary adjustable stock for the XCR (this was back when the only stock options were the Para FAL style and the buffer tube socket). On a couple of occasions I got to fondle one of the RAV-02 prototypes, and even got to shoot one that was brought to a shoot they had organized. It was a pretty slick rifle and I really liked it. I always wished that Alex and the folks at RobArms had refined it and released it on the civilian market alongside the XCR for folks like me who would live to own an American designed rifle in 7.62x39mm that took AK mags, but wasn't yet another Kalashnikov clone.

 

[Club Sandwich]

What’s some decent cold weather gear like gloves? I have a few 2gun matches coming up in January February and March and those months temps are usually in arctic conditions

Magpul Patrol or if you can find them the SKD Tactical PIG, cold weather gloves. i've used the SKD ones since the 80's and they hold up to cold/wet amphibious stuff as well as arctic stuff. Magpul Patrol is probably the best for the money spent if you only want one pair of gloves and don't plan on swimming.

Less pertaining to guns, but I have been wondering the same thing except stuff like clothes, food and backpacks.

"FILBE 3 day assault pack" is an ideal all-around backpack for most weather conditions. a smaller one might be the Condor assault pack, which is a half-size one and great for foot patrols or an all-day bivouc and hike type thing. less weight, less swing on the trail, expandable and has a dry sack built in. clothes are really dependent on what you're doing. i have preferences, but it's hard to predict that for others.

food is almost anything but lemme share some bushcraft thats been making rounds on instagram but i've usually done with the bottom half of a chinese take-out box:

1. get big pencil sharpener, the type for crayon-sized pencils in woodworking or other marking tasks
2. get some paraffin candles
3. get some empty and clean tuna cans, preferably steel, but aluminum is ok, avoid tin or zamak. you dont need the lid.
3a. alternately, i prefer to take a standard chinese food take-out container, unfold it (remove wire if it has one), clean the waxed paper, allow to dry, re-fold and use a razor to cut it horizontally in half so i have a bottom. i will usually staple the sides to prevent it from unfolding. do the same to the top and you have two "cans" for the price of one, or use the top as a lid for the bottom with a rubber band to keep it together.
4. using a drill, get some sticks that fit the sharpener and create shavings into the container while melting the candles over a low heat to a liquid.
5. fill up a container halfway with shavings, then pour some melted candle over it, fill to 3/4 full, pour some more, then fill completely, and pour more on top. pack it down so it's flush with the top. allow to sit and cool down (about an hour).
6. repeat as needed.
7. you now have portable, relatively weatherized, fire starting container (maybe with lid) that are a standard size for most packs and are disposable and arguably re-usable and if you use the take-out box method it will completely burn into a firepit at your camp, reducing the need to pack up trash.

 

[BikeLock]

If you don't go to 2 gun in mil surp you're a FUCKING FAGGOT.
>I'm wearing dope new plate carrier from some guy Jocko's podcast had on.
lose to a guy with a fucked up desert chokie chip tee shirt

No jokes aside, just get some cheap flektarn, no matter where you live girls get very wet for it.

For gloves, I'm sold on Mechanix. I trash gloves some how. I'm no Delta dude and I take care of my gear I trash em so just get something kinda last. tbh, buy thermal under clothes also.

I've bought Mechanix gloves for years. Wish they still did a fingerless glove, still have an old blown out pair that I keep around for some reason.

Anyway, these are $25 and tend to last me a few cold seasons. I use gloves to save my hands, so I don't care if they get torn up, that is what they're for.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanix-Wear-Tactical-ColdWorkTM-FastFit%C2%AE/dp/B0D8RK68BD?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&gQT=0&th=1&psc=1

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

But this video definitely covers everything I wanted to know about it.

 

[ChampFantana]

But this video definitely covers everything I wanted to know about it.

Leave it to the Krauts to come up with a design as deeply autistic as the G11.

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

If you don't go to 2 gun in mil surp you're a FUCKING FAGGOT.
>I'm wearing dope new plate carrier from some guy Jocko's podcast had on.
lose to a guy with a fucked up desert chokie chip tee shirt

No jokes aside, just get some cheap flektarn, no matter where you live girls get very wet for it.

For gloves, I'm sold on Mechanix. I trash gloves some how. I'm no Delta dude and I take care of my gear I trash em so just get something kinda last. tbh, buy thermal under clothes also.

Belgian.
Jigsaw.

For everything.
But all jokes aside, OD (and especially really worn out and faded OD) works wonders for my neck of the woods. Has a specific looks that makes Mrs. Balls hot under the collar when I wear it, and you'd never see me hiding in the unbearable-you-would-never-willingly-go-out-in-it-unless-you-were-specifically-looking-for-me style brambles and overgrowth that make up my home state.
It stains really well, takes on all sorts of natural camo from shadows and leaves. I find solid colors are fucking great. Can be effective in the field, but also can be worn around with normal outfits in public without screaming "I'M A TACTICAL DUDE LOOK AT ME I DEFINITELY SHOULD BE THE FIRST TARGET."
I'm a gay faggot, and I do wool everything, natural fibers. I know that we have fancy new fibers and shit. But I haven't really given up on merino wool undergarments and nice leather.
There's a pair of leather shootist gloves that are like hand fit I've been seeing everywhere. You send in your dimensions, they make the gloves. Then like a fine pair of raw denim jeans or bespoke boots, you're supposed to get em soaked and wear em till they dry around your hand for perfect fit. I've heard they're expensive, but with that thin of leather, I can't really see em being worth more than a pair of mechanix.

 

[Foley]

Ian uploaded his video on the ZB-47 on the 23rd of December. So Ian recorded a video in either late August or early September and only got around to releasing it in late December. Gives you some potential insight into how deep he keeps his video stash.

I've seen him post Instagram photos from some videoshoot in February and some of those videos were published a year after that. So yeah...

 

[MrJokerRager]

M16A4 and M4A1 lives on.

 

[BikeLock]

M16A4 and M4A1 lives on.

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It really does pain me to see all of those rifles that SHOULD have made it into the CMP in the hands of our... "enemies" instead.

Long barrel bros vindicated, I guess. But then again, 5.56 was all about hot, nasty, speed, and you don't really get that when you start cutting the barrel down.

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

It really does pain me to see all of those rifles that SHOULD have made it into the CMP in the hands of our... "enemies" instead.

Long barrel bros vindicated, I guess. But then again, 5.56 was all about hot, nasty, speed, and you don't really get that when you start cutting the barrel down.

GodDAMN IT. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME.

 

[John Badman]

It’s so fucking over. My rifle just fell off the table and busted the forward assist while I was going out to get a multi wrench. There’s a chunk of concrete missing in the garage and I just dropped my fucking rifle

 

[Romulus augustulus]

It really does pain me to see all of those rifles that SHOULD have made it into the CMP in the hands of our... "enemies" instead.

Long barrel bros vindicated, I guess. But then again, 5.56 was all about hot, nasty, speed, and you don't really get that when you start cutting the barrel down.

As far as im aware there is nothing barring the CMP giving away complete uppers and sights etc. The army just wont give them the spares.

 

[Club Sandwich]

The army just wont give them the spares.

there's a lot of story behind this: functionally there isn't legislation specifically forbidding the Secretary from handing over to the CMP gear and weapons, however the 1968 GCA as regulated by the BATFE forbids the CMP from selling machineguns or machinegun parts as well as other NFA items. a further order from LBJ and later expanded by Reagan forbids the Secretary (and by extension the DLA, the Defense Logistics Agency) from de-militarizing "serviceable" controlled items (PVS, items that might fall under the NFA, et c) - this is why you will never see an M14 receiver or something, and only random parts from salvaged weapons make it in.

Clinton later further expanded the scope of the DLA to destroy items not fit for the CMP, however that was stopped by the Senate and the Director of the CMP was given that authority, at the time was Orest Michaels (since retired). Orest proceeded to continue the destruction policy of items that could not be sold via the CMP charter and remain in compliance with BATFE regulations regarding NFA items. the Secretary (Colin Powell) then stopped giving M16's and stuff to the CMP and instead offered them for direct transfer via some program from the DoD to domestic law enforcement in a lend-lease type fashion - if the receiving agency took responsibility for the care/feeding of a Bearcat or HMMV, they could have it without any costs, with the military reserving the right to re-acquire it if needed.

that's also not including US allies that are keen to buy serviceable or even brand new former US military gear for compatibility and cost reasons. the Philippines are able to purchase M4's for around $200 each for example, although they must provide the shipping and handling (they send a plane or they're delivered by boat out of San Diego). Malaysia bought a bunch of helicopters under similar arrangements, et c. for completely shot out garbage it's just destroyed, however after a trip through Capn' Crunch the scrap is allowed to be sold at weight and the DLA typically removes accessories or parts prior to destruction and separately sells that in bulk to some vendors around Ann Arbor and Ft Worth and some other places, so you can still find the modern surplus here or there, but it's much rarer now. Contract overruns are more common, and suppliers are allowed to sell ones privately that the US military doesn't take, with the very recent exception of Lake City ammunition.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

there's a lot of story behind this: functionally there isn't legislation specifically forbidding the Secretary from handing over to the CMP gear and weapons, however the 1968 GCA as regulated by the BATFE forbids the CMP from selling machineguns or machinegun parts as well as other NFA items. a further order from LBJ and later expanded by Reagan forbids the Secretary (and by extension the DLA, the Defense Logistics Agency) from de-militarizing "serviceable" controlled items (PVS, items that might fall under the NFA, et c) - this is why you will never see an M14 receiver or something, and only random parts from salvaged weapons make it in.

Clinton later further expanded the scope of the DLA to destroy items not fit for the CMP, however that was stopped by the Senate and the Director of the CMP was given that authority, at the time was Orest Michaels (since retired). Orest proceeded to continue the destruction policy of items that could not be sold via the CMP charter and remain in compliance with BATFE regulations regarding NFA items. the Secretary (Colin Powell) then stopped giving M16's and stuff to the CMP and instead offered them for direct transfer via some program from the DoD to domestic law enforcement in a lend-lease type fashion - if the receiving agency took responsibility for the care/feeding of a Bearcat or HMMV, they could have it without any costs, with the military reserving the right to re-acquire it if needed.

the CMP at one point "lended" M14s for competition IIRC. they were not sold or technically owned by the shooter and it was a small program. IIRC this was in the 80s and 90s and they were all taken back after 9/11 for use by DOD as they were all accurized rifles.

could be fuddlore or not idk. seemed real enough.