Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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Caligura said:
They didn't even have the balls to add Pol Pot either. Literally the only reason why someone would care about any SEAmonkey content aside from maybe Vietnam (mainly for the novelty of America supporting the VC in this timeline lol much like Castro's Cuba). It didn't help either that there's no Singapore in TrooNO timeline either so no Switzerland of Asia either. VGH!
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Fuck it, I'll make Pol Pot and mod him in.
 
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Sooty Soot said:
Fuck it, I'll make Pol Pot and mod him in.
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It would actually be funny but also kinda of cool if Pol Pot in this timeline was more 'moderate', simply out of pragmatism (inspired by how he's surrounded by the Japs and thus regime stability > praxis is priority) or could go into his OTL counterparts' path.

Like he could sort of loosen his Total Glasses Death rule a little in order to keep things stable... Until the Japs are kicked out. Then it's time to finally enact TGD...
 
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Notorious N.I.G said:
Not even mentioning the fact that there are different editions of it as well, considering Siege wasn't even originally an entire book and rather just a collection of writings from when Mason was in the American Nazi Party and later the NSLF. I could be wrong but there was a quote from Mason in which he did talk about how George Lincoln Rockwell actually talked him out of shooting up a school. Can't recall if it was ever mentioned in the book or if it was mentioned in an interview.
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>Mason was almost the Patient Zero of School Shooters
You can´t make this shit up.
 
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winderson_silva said:
Like, it's just because Dugin would be too young to be put in the mod so they put another dude as an stand in?
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I hate that guy he isn't even political he's just a member of Russian military intelligence all of his theories are literally just nonsense he came up with to manipulate idiots in the right in western European countries to cause chaos to the benefit of Russia it's something actually him and Putin both have in common it was both their favorite tactics when they were KGB agents
Rome's rightful successor said:
Some more from TFR twitter.
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Man if I still wasn't burnt out about working on mob projects I might try and jump in and help out with the fire rises these guys seem like a lot of fun
 
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here you go, the mod only consists of 3 or 4 files so it should be compatible with most mods (as long as they dont change the international news events loc file) @GoodWinSon if you can, can you upload the mod to steam?
 

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winderson_silva said:
So, what are the Antartica content for? Can you actually wage war for once there or its just minigames?

Also, while I really only checked their TV Tropes profile since im not buying Hoi to test mods, just why Japan makes a cyberpunk dystopia in China of all places? Just because they can?
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It'd just minigames, and NSL has a single border conflict with the OFN antartic guys and that's it. But you can send a volunteer division to the Madagascar proxy if you are either NSW or the OFN, and NSW can also get involved in the GCW, the argies get nothing of the sort. Oh, and the countries don't have focus trees either
 
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Toji Suzuhara said:
It'd just minigames, and NSL has a single border conflict with the OFN antartic guys and that's it. But you can send a volunteer division to the Madagascar proxy if you are either NSW or the OFN, and NSW can also get involved in the GCW, the argies get nothing of the sort. Oh, and the countries don't have focus trees either
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So an entirely pointless update that took like a year to do? Even KR re-works as crap as they are like the German economy mini-game do not have a nation that does nothing. They can at least add ten years of content for Haiti and while yes its Haiti that was passable since at least other regions got content. People make fun of Austria for not having a good focus tree but at least it has one and in the meantime they have had updates to countless nations from Middle East, Asia, Africa, South America, North America, etc. TNO as pointed out countless time removes shit and hardly puts it back in. The only thing that could save it is new submods that some autist combined into a mega redux just like KX of old. Though back to the main point, why? Why would someone add content that essentially does nothing but have the map be somewhat more accurate to small islands like Fiji?
 
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Ryona420 said:
Why would someone add content that essentially does nothing but have the map be somewhat more accurate to small islands like Fiji?
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Because the mouthbreathers in the TNO discord and subreddit eat it all up. They changed literally nothing from how the AAs worked back in the ODF submod, which means that the latter half of NSL's content will have to be entirely rewritten. More effort went into the shitty indian war and the 50 different events about Laos and Cambodia.

But when a redditor sees shit like this their minds go "Wow, so much content! Such a daring narrative!" and they stop thinking. The Brazil update was supossed to happen alongside ODF, with the latter being just an appetizer, but the TNO devs dropped the ball with that one and we don't know when Crow and Bull will come out. Hell, even ODF is full of bugs
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Toji Suzuhara said:
Because the mouthbreathers in the TNO discord and subreddit eat it all up. They changed literally nothing from how the AAs worked back in the ODF submod, which means that the latter half of NSL's content will have to be entirely rewritten. More effort went into the shitty indian war and the 50 different events about Laos and Cambodia.

But when a redditor sees shit like this their minds go "Wow, so much content! Such a daring narrative!" and they stop thinking. The Brazil update was supossed to happen alongside ODF, with the latter being just an appetizer, but the TNO devs dropped the ball with that one and we don't know when Crow and Bull will come out. Hell, even ODF is full of bugs
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This is probably the most true now that I think about. We've seen over time that the TNO devs on discord and reddit are draconian. Banning most dissent and criticism towards the mod and its direction. I still lol when I hear people use the word "Eurocentric" when you criticize them for not even finishing Mexico and making Fiji into a big deal when they have not even finished for most of Europe in a mod titled the last days of Europe. Hell I want Manchuria and China content to see what horrid things the Japs are up to with their TCD victory.
 
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played yunnans content, probably the second best experience in the mod behind all the russian unifiers. i managed to get 100% legitimacy and got sun yat sens son as my leader, i just wish there was more content revolving around the international implications of long yuns victory
 
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The BTWH devs have finally openly consneeded that their mod is 100% dead (let's not kid anyone with the 'indefinite hiatus' excuse), and opened up as to how that's been the case for at least the last two years.

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In fact it's so fucking over, they have even publicly released the interview CHAZ founder Laura/Logan Couch did with the convicted far-left domestic terrorist Raymond Luc Levasseur which got their mod branded a 'terrorist mod' all those years ago, an interview which they have kept a secret until very recently. Honestly, I don't know why they even bothered covering it up for so long, it's actually rather underwhelming compared to the interview I imagined. But then 'underwhelming' is a word which aptly describes the modern far-left (the losers on the ground like these bums anyway, not Klaus Schwab or Soros & other actual string-pullers) in general, to say nothing of their projects like BTWH.

Q.1 - How much institutional resistance did SCAR face from elected politicians/government outside of law enforcement?
A.1 - Not much when you omit law enforcement & Department of Corrections.

Q.2 - Before he sold out, how were relations between Alan Caron and the rest of SCAR?
A.2 - Generally good until around mid-1974 when relations between Caron and those with a different political perspective became strained.

Q.3 - Were there any other political divides within SCAR and the broader leftist movement?
A.3 - The left was rife with political divisions & sectarianism. SCAR eventually reflected some of this: liberal v radical, reform v revolution, above ground v underground, which way forward, community organizing without getting sucked into the system.

How would you characterize the kind of harassment SCAR faced?
4 - Petty to deadly serious. Spontaneous to premeditated.

Q.5 - What did you (and SCAR in general) think about:

Q.5a - The Weather Underground
A.5a - General core membership support of WUO's propaganda of the deed & their anti-imperialist political line. However, we also saw them as a breed apart because of their upper middle class/elite college backgrounds.

Q.5b - Hippies and the back-to-the land movement, especially Scott Nearing
A.5b - General skepticism of the counterculture even as though many of us had flirted with various aspects of the lifestyle. SCAR was not into homesteading/back-to-the-land. We were citified. My one encounter with Scott Nearing (1972) left me with the impression he no longer had much use for radical politics.

Q.5c - The Black Liberation Army
A.5c - the most militant SCAR members favored the BLA. For others it was - BLA who?

Q.6 - Was there any anarchist presence in Maine during the 70s? If so, were there any notable activists?
A.6 - Only in the generic sense. No formal/informal groups that I recall. While SCAR was not anarchist it did have some anarchist tendencies/influences.

Q.7 - How did SCAR operate on a day-to-day basis? How was the org structured?
A.7 - SCAR was incorporated as a non-profit & there were official titles for various individuals at various times. But this was mostly show & for fundraising purposes. From the outset SCAR operated with high energy & commitment. SCAR's hub was a storefront HQ/meeting hall. SCAR had various chapters, the only long besides Portland was Maine State Prison. SCAR published a newspaper, the SCAR'd Times. The organization's "survival programs" were adapted from the BPP's ("survival pending revolution"). There was a core membership and general membership. Decision making was by CONSENSUS. Everyone had to be involved in some aspect of the work to one degree or another (this could be anything from the community bail fund to hawking the SCAR'd Times or Impeach Nixon bumper stickers).

Q.8 - How would you describe SCAR’s goal/how it wants to achieve that goal?
A.8 - Early on a significant part of the core membership favored reforming the prison system through public education & legislation. Others favored more political education, organizing a prison chapter & boots on the ground community work. Eventually the latter view prevailed with SCAR evolving from reform & rehabilitation to "struggle for justice" and "survival pending revolution." After connection the dots: class-race-gender-capitalism-imperialsm the goal became to change the entire system. How to go about this & what to replace the system with were debated throughout SCAR's existence (it folded in 1976).

Q.9 - What was the role of French Canadian emigrants in the creation of such groups? Were there any pro-FLQ sentiments?
A.9 - Several SCAR members had roots in Quebec (e.g my father was born in Quebec). Each of us was influenced by our ethnic, working class life experiences. Sentiments were pro-FLQ, seeing revolutionary nationalism as the spear tip challenging colonialism/imperialism. An important pointer I got from following the FLQ - never stay in a bank longer than 2 minutes when making an unauthorized withdrawal!
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