"Doxing" in 2025

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It's interesting how so many people seem so oblivious as they give their opponents ammunition.
Obviously we all agree here that, let's say, some pedo's anonymity isn't gonna be sacrosanct, and he wouldn't want all of his info and misdeeds documented somewhere by his opponents, and we understand that one could call this some sort of "real-world harm". In some sense, the fallback always has to be to the bailey that is "but it's legal" (as it should be).
Yes, this is a proper strategic move, but people here should be more cognizant of the language they use all the time. No point in giving the bad guys what they want, so that they can point to it and say "look, they are the bad ones! Evil, scary! Destroy KF!!"


As an anecdote I've seen a lot recently: everyone seems to love the game Palworld. Nintendo, from my understanding, is trying to sue them. These people who love this game, though, seem to talk incessantly about the similarities between Palworld and Pokemon. Look, fools: you're giving Nintendo everything they need to destroy you. Instead, talk about all the ways in which these two games are different, the ways in which this new game is clearly its own vision completely detached from Nintendo's IP, or how Pokemon is similar to other properties and isn't unique.
But nah, the fools can't comprehend that they cause their favorite game damage. "Look, their own players admit the similarities!"


But in that way: is there a better term even than those, that somehow stresses how it is unlikely the malicious, criminal "doxxing"? Instead of just avoiding using the terms that cause us harm, is there any possible positive spin on it at all?
We've gotten to an era where everyone hates journalists, after all... but maybe that is the path we should take.

I'm not sure it would change much in the long run, as KF will always be a target. But I guess every bit helps.
 
a. Form of harassment in which personal information is used to intimidate, threaten, or distress others.
b. Searching / archiving public information and reposting it.

The Kiwi Farms has always had rules against contacting people. We've always had rules against threatening or extorting people. We've always had rules against encouraging other people to do those things ("someone should...").

So Josh, are you aware that Sneasel and his cohorts have been doing all those things to me and more for the past 8 years? They have contacted numerous people they have seen me interacting with resulting in great harm to my social and business connections. They are running at least 3 You Tube channels with stolen and editied media. I think you have a terrific potential liability exposure here that is about to get really real, as complaints of RICO gang stalking and targeted harassment have been lodged with two reporting agencies and will be lodged by midweek in the federal court.
Wait, when did the dog/child rapist start posting again?
 
a. Form of harassment in which personal information is used to intimidate, threaten, or distress others.
b. Searching / archiving public information and reposting it.

The Kiwi Farms has always had rules against contacting people. We've always had rules against threatening or extorting people. We've always had rules against encouraging other people to do those things ("someone should...").

So Josh, are you aware that Sneasel and his cohorts have been doing all those things to me and more for the past 8 years? They have contacted numerous people they have seen me interacting with resulting in great harm to my social and business connections. They are running at least 3 You Tube channels with stolen and editied media. I think you have a terrific potential liability exposure here that is about to get really real, as complaints of RICO gang stalking and targeted harassment have been lodged with two reporting agencies and will be lodged by midweek in the federal court.
You literally let African scammers steal your inheritance and you’re whining about idiots laughing about you on obscure forums. Grow up.
 
It's interesting how so many people seem so oblivious as they give their opponents ammunition.
Obviously we all agree here that, let's say, some pedo's anonymity isn't gonna be sacrosanct, and he wouldn't want all of his info and misdeeds documented somewhere by his opponents, and we understand that one could call this some sort of "real-world harm". In some sense, the fallback always has to be to the bailey that is "but it's legal" (as it should be).
Yes, this is a proper strategic move, but people here should be more cognizant of the language they use all the time. No point in giving the bad guys what they want, so that they can point to it and say "look, they are the bad ones! Evil, scary! Destroy KF!!"


As an anecdote I've seen a lot recently: everyone seems to love the game Palworld. Nintendo, from my understanding, is trying to sue them. These people who love this game, though, seem to talk incessantly about the similarities between Palworld and Pokemon. Look, fools: you're giving Nintendo everything they need to destroy you. Instead, talk about all the ways in which these two games are different, the ways in which this new game is clearly its own vision completely detached from Nintendo's IP, or how Pokemon is similar to other properties and isn't unique.
But nah, the fools can't comprehend that they cause their favorite game damage. "Look, their own players admit the similarities!"


But in that way: is there a better term even than those, that somehow stresses how it is unlikely the malicious, criminal "doxxing"? Instead of just avoiding using the terms that cause us harm, is there any possible positive spin on it at all?
We've gotten to an era where everyone hates journalists, after all... but maybe that is the path we should take.

I'm not sure it would change much in the long run, as KF will always be a target. But I guess every bit helps.
I think its more that you have to be eighteen to post on this site. That means that everyone here regardless of nationality has seen first hand that using new speak to appease never actually does anything, barring showing you can bend and then break.

I understand the mentality to try and nip problems in the bud. I just have very little hope that it will accomplish anything. It would require the people who oppose the site to follow their own rules and not be hypocrites when they not only do so with gusto but are proud of it.
 
a. Form of harassment in which personal information is used to intimidate, threaten, or distress others.
b. Searching / archiving public information and reposting it.

The Kiwi Farms has always had rules against contacting people. We've always had rules against threatening or extorting people. We've always had rules against encouraging other people to do those things ("someone should...").

So Josh, are you aware that Sneasel and his cohorts have been doing all those things to me and more for the past 8 years? They have contacted numerous people they have seen me interacting with resulting in great harm to my social and business connections. They are running at least 3 You Tube channels with stolen and editied media. I think you have a terrific potential liability exposure here that is about to get really real, as complaints of RICO gang stalking and targeted harassment have been lodged with two reporting agencies and will be lodged by midweek in the federal court.
Lmao bring it you fat faggot. You can't do a damn thing and you never have. You literally showed up here years ago threatening lolsuits and never filed a single one because you're an impotent, wheezing, dying faggot, dying of COPD and can't do anything at all.

You are the weakest cow we even have. At least some cows have filed lolsuits. You have never done dick despite your constant threats.

Choke on dog cocks and die you piece of shit.
 
It's interesting how so many people seem so oblivious as they give their opponents ammunition.
Obviously we all agree here that, let's say, some pedo's anonymity isn't gonna be sacrosanct, and he wouldn't want all of his info and misdeeds documented somewhere by his opponents, and we understand that one could call this some sort of "real-world harm". In some sense, the fallback always has to be to the bailey that is "but it's legal" (as it should be).
Yes, this is a proper strategic move, but people here should be more cognizant of the language they use all the time. No point in giving the bad guys what they want, so that they can point to it and say "look, they are the bad ones! Evil, scary! Destroy KF!!"


As an anecdote I've seen a lot recently: everyone seems to love the game Palworld. Nintendo, from my understanding, is trying to sue them. These people who love this game, though, seem to talk incessantly about the similarities between Palworld and Pokemon. Look, fools: you're giving Nintendo everything they need to destroy you. Instead, talk about all the ways in which these two games are different, the ways in which this new game is clearly its own vision completely detached from Nintendo's IP, or how Pokemon is similar to other properties and isn't unique.
But nah, the fools can't comprehend that they cause their favorite game damage. "Look, their own players admit the similarities!"


But in that way: is there a better term even than those, that somehow stresses how it is unlikely the malicious, criminal "doxxing"? Instead of just avoiding using the terms that cause us harm, is there any possible positive spin on it at all?
We've gotten to an era where everyone hates journalists, after all... but maybe that is the path we should take.

I'm not sure it would change much in the long run, as KF will always be a target. But I guess every bit helps.
I am leaning hard on "journalism" partly because I foresee this same circumstance recurring with whatever language we decide to use moving forward, and the idea of American legislators trying to criminalize "journalism" seems like a pretty hard sell.

And also because it destroys the illusion that what we're doing is somehow different from what "journalists" do when they, for instance, publish @afounder 's name and apartment building.
 
I don't think this will help. It's already easy to tell which context you're referring to when just reading the post, and context A is never going to encouraged here. As far as law goes, you know damn well they don't care and will treat both instance A and B the same. Just like with "cyberbullying" and "hate crimes" being used as an excuse to lock up anybody they like, just look at Britain. If you're part of this site, you're fucked either way, the popop is always going to treat you like a cyberhacker even if all you did is document publicly available information and did nothing further with it. They don't care what term you use for documenting information, "in minecraft" didn't help that brony who got arrested by sheriff shitwood on /pol/ a while back.

I suggest not messing with any terminology and simply doubling down on banning retards who want to use this site as their personal army or a le sekrut hacker club to get back at people they don't like, ala soyjak party's /raid/ board.
 
I'm not sure if anyone else said it, so I'm going to chime in: What value does hosting home addresses add to the forum? Deadnaming and name doxxing are one thing, but I feel like home addresses and other private information only cause issues that could be avoided by not having them. Even 4chan disallows doxing, am I wrong? If so, explain why doxing is a net positive for the forum.
 
The amount of autistics in this thread who think we need to band together to choose an official replacement word is unreal, there's like two dozen things you can call it and they're literally all fine for communicating what you mean without being the name of an actionable criminal offence. Just say whatever.
Except it's dumb. It isn't going to work. I get that it's nool's site, if he doesn't like the word, he can wordfilter it or whatever, and ban anyone who tries to evade it with dumbass shit like "d0x," but everyone who is already making up bullshit about us will just cite this thread itself as proof "they're just coming up with new words for their criminal activities."

Doxing isn't criminal, never has been, never will be, and ceding this semantic battle is cucking.

Not blaming nool or anything, but this is just dumb and won't work and people will keep calling it what it is. You can't just magically dictate that language changes somehow.

I mean I'm not going to call it that, but I mostly didn't anyway. I don't remember ever personally saying "here's my dox on this guy" or something like that.

But it isn't going to do shit. We will still be the uber mega doXXXXXXXXXXing site no matter what we call it.
 
Except it's dumb. It isn't going to work. I get that it's nool's site, if he doesn't like the word, he can wordfilter it or whatever, and ban anyone who tries to evade it with dumbass shit like "d0x," but everyone who is already making up bullshit about us will just cite this thread itself as proof "they're just coming up with new words for their criminal activities."

Doxing isn't criminal, never has been, never will be, and ceding this semantic battle is cucking.

Not blaming nool or anything, but this is just dumb and won't work and people will keep calling it what it is. You can't just magically dictate that language changes somehow.

I mean I'm not going to call it that, but I mostly didn't anyway. I don't remember ever personally saying "here's my dox on this guy" or something like that.

But it isn't going to do shit. We will still be the uber mega doXXXXXXXXXXing site no matter what we call it.
No we're an unmasking site who sunshine people with consequences now, sweatie.
 
No, I'm actually trying to help the site stay up, as I've been doing for 13 fucking years.
If the use of a word is going to mean the difference between life and death of your life's work, word filter it. This is the last community on the internet that's going to change the words they use to appease the sensitivities of others.
All people complaining that we should FIGHT for OUR WORD don't realize that you've actually already completely and totally lost that battle and you should have been petitioning your state legislatures for the last 8+ years.
I agree. The "battle" is lost. I don't know what's going to happen, but I suspect the d-word is going away whether people comply or not. Some people did petition governments and media outlets to help KF. Hence my hatred of Bob Ferguson and admiration of Ben Swann. It didn't help the farms but at least it earned me the right to complain.

Edit- "Sunshining" is terrible. It makes me think of the weirdos that tan their assholes.
 
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