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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs
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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Is there anywhere you can find a compiled list or write up of what the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs did to the girls? I have some unaware and/or in denial friends and family that need educating on the issue.

I posted this in the UK police thread a few years back. As a 40 second clip (elon musk has since reposted a longer one) it gives a snap shot of what was going on.








Incidentally the Chief Constable David Crompton didn't identify any of the officers involved and the IPCC did what they always do, which was just generated paper work, they rarely actually interview a police officer for any allegation.

Crompton was later sacked by the elected police and crime commissioner and the Guardian led a mini campaign against the 'Tory' punitive action. He eventually settled for a £500,000 pay out.

Muslims dominate the night time trade in many cities as well as taxi firms. There were many reasons why they were able to get away with organised mass rape but one of them is that they're very good at asserting their rights, and dealing with the local police and council.

If the Police drag a muslim man into the station, he's not going to be stupid enough to go with the duty solicitor who'll be kicking their heels either in the court or the station waiting for a 'fixed fee' client to make an appearance. They'll have the number of an actual solicitor who won't give a shit about keeping on good terms with the police, or CPS or courts. The police especially the uniformed plod cannot cope when a solicitor turns up and starts causing them aggro. Particularly as often the CPS aren't available to give legal advice.

Muslims know that the best way to deal with the police is to aggressively challenge them on everything, they know it from running businesses, that people will back down when faced with threats of complains legal action or dragging the local MP up from London to give them an earful.
 
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Be careful. I got a load of overpayments when I was unemployed for a bit during Covid, tried to pay it back and was told it was fine. Last year I got the letter demanding it back. A lot less than I thought but still a surprise.
One thing I learned very quickly from my time in the UK was how important it is to insist that all correspondence with any level of the state is done in writing, and to then keep said correspondence somewhere safe till the day you die. You literally never know when the British government will just arbitrarily decide that you owe it money.
 
I posted this in the UK police thread a few years back. As a 40 second clip (elon musk has since reposted a longer one) it gives a snap shot of what was going on.
I had a good laugh showing some reports and court footage around with friends and family so more is always good.

Little bit of a spoiler but I plan on compiling a lot of what's gone on, been said, etc and put it all into a document and go as far as translating it into some other languages.
 
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One thing I learned very quickly from my time in the UK was how important it is to insist that all correspondence with any level of the state is done in writing, and to then keep said correspondence somewhere safe till the day you die. You literally never know when the British government will just arbitrarily decide that you owe it money.
It is very fun when they come to you saying you owe them only to pull out reciepts of them telling you the exact opposite.

They tend to shut up fast if you can call them on bs.
 
One thing I learned very quickly from my time in the UK was how important it is to insist that all correspondence with any level of the state is done in writing, and to then keep said correspondence somewhere safe till the day you die. You literally never know when the British government will just arbitrarily decide that you owe it money.
The government seems to think it is arbitrarily entitled to everything you own, it both can and will try and fuck you out of it when it gets bored.
 
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364 Nays to 111 Ayes
Even worse, Starmer forced Labour MPs to vote this way but he and his cabinet were allowed to abstain. Starmer, Rayner, Reeves, Miliband, Lammy and Streeting all pussied out owning their grubby actions.

Yvette Cooper and Pat McFadden apparently realized how scummy this looks and voted with the backbenchers.
 
Liz Truss is suing Kier Starmer for saying she crashed the economy.

Free Letby. Sir David Davis has called for a letby retrial. He told a Commons adjournment debate: "There was no hard evidence against Letby, nobody saw her do anything untoward."

Truss vs Reeves

Reeves v Truss​

Some may be wondering about the impact of higher gilt yields on the mortgage market, particularly after what happened after Liz Truss's mini-Budget in September 2022.
Although yields are higher now than they were then, they have been creeping up slowly over a period of months, whereas in 2022 they shot up over a couple of days.
That speedy rise led to lenders quickly pulling deals while they tried to work out what interest rate to charge.
But the picture is too complex to make a direct comparison between Truss and Reeves, said Simon French, chief economist at Panmure Gordon.
"The major driver of yield going higher under Truss was UK policy. It was a combination of the mini-Budget which was her fault and the energy crisis, which wasn't her fault. But the mini-Budget was the biggest factor.
"This time, there is global anxiety about the level of debt pushing yields up everywhere, not least the US which is not Reeves' fault. But there's also a dim view on the growth impact from her Budget, which is slowing rather than accelerating the economy. That is her fault."
It was Truss's fault because of her budget causing speculators to drop out. It isn't Reeves fault because her budget caused speculators to drop out.

Lies, damned lies and journalists.
 
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Not a single Labour or Green voted aye
The conservatives have had years to incorporate the recommendations from the previous inquiries and reports. They didn't do anything. Some people just want to kick the can further down the road and waste time with another investigation into things we already know. It's time to act on the recommendations and see that they are implemented so that it doesn't happen again or keep happening.
 
According to the press slop legacy media this morning Reeves has Truss'd the economy overnight because muh gilts are at 4.5% or something Semitic like that.
Anyway that 9.9 billion of "headroom" is now gone which means tax rises/spending cuts are inevitable and unavoidable otherwise the "rules" will be broken, 26th of March is the scheduled "everything is fine/shits fucked yo" deadline for the OBR rubber stamp, spring of discontent would be a first one.
As brap prices are gonna shoot up again just in time for the dead of winter (which now lands in April thank you climate change), could this combined with the paki grooming hysteria perhaps result in a revolutionary situation? people aren't just pissed where I live they're actively voicing their intent to start bricking windows.

ADDITION: This caught my eye, gayness is utterly whitewashed but the placing of the T right alongside the P is a real manifestation, open sentiment troonshit = pedoshit which is nice.
https://www.thetimes.com/comment/co...dophiles-are-lesson-in-trans-debate-307l936m3/https://archive.is/8BBDd
Sarah Ditum

Wednesday January 08 2025, 9.00pm GMT, The Times
For years they presented themselves as the next frontier in civil rights; a minority unfairly penalised for their private lives. They attached themselves to the gay rights and feminist movements. They styled themselves as defenders of individual freedom and protectors of children’s rights — high-blown words that covered a vicious and grubby reality.
From 1974 to 1984, the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) held a strange place in British public life. Its mission was to fight for children’s “freedom” to have sexual relationships with adults, and it argued for reducing the age of consent to four. No, there isn’t a missing “teen” there. PIE openly advocated for sex with preschoolers. Its members, as a new investigation by Alex Renton has confirmed, included teachers, clergy and social workers.
Lots of people found PIE repugnant. When Polly Toynbee interviewed two of the group’s leaders in The Guardian in 1977, she wrote of her “disgust, aversion and anger”. Perhaps more significant than Toynbee’s emotional reaction is the fact that she was interviewing a networking organisation for paedophiles in the national press.
PIE was not exactly the band of outcasts you might imagine. It was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties (now Liberty). The Council for Homosexual Equality passed two conference motions in support of PIE. The confusion was partly born of the fact that homophobia, still rampant, made little distinction between consenting adult relationships and abusive ones. Campaigners thoughtlessly mirrored the terms of their opponents.
Most gay men detested this smear. But for PIE, it was convenient. Homosexuality had only been decriminalised in 1967. If that could change who was to say where liberalism would end? The arc of history is long, and maybe it would bend towards paedophiles. That, at any rate, was PIE’s hope — and it did everything it could to drag the arc of history to its will.
If you’re a campaigner for a broadly unpopular issue, it makes sense to fold yourself into a more successful cause. PIE was hardly the first group to hit on this tactic, and it certainly wasn’t the last.
For example, most people consider the police and prisons a necessary part of keeping order in society — imperfect institutions, but indispensable ones. Which is why the “defund the police” movement glommed itself on to the American anti-racism protests of 2020. The gambit was so successful that for a short time anyone who wasn’t calling for the abolishment of the criminal justice system risked being called a white supremacist.
Or think about the way the trans rights movement consumed the gay liberation movement from the inside. There had long been a broad, if uneasy, political coalition between gay people and trans people, with both groups seen as somehow “going against their sex”. But the demands of the trans activism movement were much more radical, and much less intrinsically appealing.
Gays and lesbians were asking to be included in society: to be allowed to marry and have children, and to be protected against discrimination and violence for being “born this way”, as one of the movement’s most successful slogans had it. Trans activism borrowed the language of “born this way” to make a far more drastic case, squeezing itself into the same movement as LGB was expanded to LGBT. If a woman happened to have been “born in a male body”, surely it was unfair to punish her for that. In 2004 the gay and lesbian lobby group Stonewall announced it would in future be focusing on trans rights.
So the gay rights movement eventually found itself attached to the push for male rapists to be housed in women’s prisons and male athletes to compete in women’s sports.
Then there was the issue of “trans children”. Who was to say a child was too young to know their own gender? Under this logic, children were put on hormones that blocked their puberty and changed their sexual characteristics in ways they were clearly too young to understand.
The parallel with PIE here is obvious. This is not to slander trans activists as paedophiles, but merely to point out that in both cases, inflated claims about children’s “autonomy” were used as the vehicle for very adult aims. In both cases, the unpopular cause parasitised the sympathetic one in an effort to change law and culture. In both cases, the parasite ultimately weakened the host.
Janice Turner: Wilful blindness is a blight on organisations
Exposure to bad arguments does not, ultimately, convince people. The end result of PIE’s activism was simply to popularise “paedophile” as one of the worst words in the English language. The end result of trans activism has been a year-on-year increase in the number of people who support single-sex services and oppose child transition. When your cause is fundamentally unappealing, public awareness is the last thing you need.
Organisations that promote equality and civil liberties and which should have a fundamental place in civil society were deeply compromised. The taint of past association with PIE recurs regularly in critical coverage of Liberty. It will take Stonewall a long time to live down campaigning for minors to be given sterilising medication.
And just as happened in the aftermath of PIE, gays, lesbians and moderate trans people were left to take the reputational hit. Social justice requires vigilance, not just vibes. There will always be bad actors seeking to hijack worthy causes; and there will, apparently, always be well-meaning people who are gullible enough to allow it.
 
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result in a revolutionary situation?
The only time that happens is if a white neo-nazi cuts the internet and electricity off to the country.
After 20 years of violent, brutal terrorists acts plastered all over the media, combined with the paki dick sucked and defending, the common man is either too afraid of the muzzie or too afraid of ostracization to do anything but get bummed and like it.

As i've said before, in 2030, you will own nothing and be happy. The only way for this to be true is if owning things becomes such a burden, that freeing yourself of that burden makes you happy. In layman's terms; shit is going to be so expensive you will welcome the pod, the bugs and the 15 minute city you and your family are locked down in.
 
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