Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

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reptile baht spaniard rid said:
Something like this always has multiple causes, and the “blame” can add up to more than 100%.

People often focus too much on the last, proximate cause and not enough on the systematic causes, to use favorite words.

If the brush is a tinderbox ready to burn at a moment’s notice, it doesn’t terribly matter in the long run if it was lightning or car sparks or homeless or arson. It was going to happen eventually.
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Yeah, sometimes it’s as simple as a piece of broken bottle tossed into the dry grass and catching the sun at just the right angle.
 
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Fuck Bankers said:
They obviously don't care as much about a "blue collar" area. I thought I saw some of those military helicopters last night dumping on the Hollywood hills. I bet they've just left that Eaton to burn.
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Yeah. It's interesting how CalFire is handling Malibu while they sent the underfunded county firefighters to deal with Eaton. Far more structural damage has occurred and is at stake in Eaton but they get less than half as many responders. They aren't reporting how much damage has occurred since over 12 hours ago. And conveniently 100% of the press focus is on the Hollywood Hills.
 
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ShinyStar said:
How much of the city's revenue from property taxes do those homes represent?
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very little, because of prop 13. if you were a homeowner before the 1970s you pay like $1000 on a 5 million dollar property. i knew a guy in SF who inherited a million dollar hovel and his property taxes were like $200 a year

this fixed tax break also carries through intergenerationally as long as the property stays in the family, creating a landed aristocracy
 
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I'm not from an area that has consistent (or large) fires so forgive me if this is retarded but if there is a large, uncontained fire visible from my backyard, I would not wait to be told to leave. I'm looking at these boundaries and evac borders and some of them are less than a mile from a literal inferno. Are californians just that arrogant to challenge nature? Do they not consider that once the smoke starts engulfing your house, it'll be near impossible to leave? I don't understand these people standing around their living rooms while embers hit their windows like they have a few minutes to spare.
 
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There She Glows said:
Yeah. It's interesting how CalFire is handling Malibu while they sent the underfunded county firefighters to deal with Eaton. Far more structural damage has occurred and is at stake in Eaton but they get less than half as many responders. They aren't reporting how much damage has occurred since over 12 hours ago. And conveniently 100% of the press focus is on the Hollywood Hills.
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The well-resourced crew with all the slave labor is there for the donors, not for the poors.
 
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This is sort of strange stray shot, but I hope this affects BoneClinks specifically. I don't want him to die or anything, but I hope he at least has to move. : )

I can't decide if this is gross mismanagement or if this was the best anyone could've done, but deep down when things like this happen, I wonder how much of it was planned, allowed or intentionally stoked. I don't think there's some secret group of firefighters with special phones to coordinate, but it it only takes one man surrounded by yes men to really fuck things up for everyone once they rise in rank and office. Now that this whole thing is worldwide news, I wonder which sect of power will wrangle it's energy in their favor. For instance, if they determine it was a political migrant barrel fire that started it.
 
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marvlouslie said:
Celebrities deserve this. Regular citizens do not. There's a difference.
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If you live in LA, you were trying to be a celebrity. That’s the only reason people have moved there for like eighty years. It’s been a smog infused, riot prone shithole for longer than most of us have been alive. After the waves of shit trying to be movie stars slowed, people started moving there to be YouTubers or tiktokers.
 
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Mayor saying that the cuts didn't affect the fire response at all







Winds are going to pick back up tonight. Considering they don't have control of the fires now with little to no wind. Things are looking bad for tonight.
 
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Bronze Age Baddie said:
I'm not from an area that has consistent (or large) fires so forgive me if this is retarded but if there is a large, uncontained fire visible from my backyard, I would not wait to be told to leave. I'm looking at these boundaries and evac borders and some of them are less than a mile from a literal inferno. Are californians just that arrogant to challenge nature? Do they not consider that once the smoke starts engulfing your house, it'll be near impossible to leave? I don't understand these people standing around their living rooms while embers hit their windows like they have a few minutes to spare.
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Living in the bughive requires a person to ignore many of their natural instincts on a daily basis.
 
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