Orbiter "Flutter" / "Egg" / "Cabbage Patch" / "Meryl" / "Food Lion lady" - Modern Christory's biggest mystery

[Scat Syde Dave]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this would make her 13 in the year 2008?

I don’t think this is her. Look at the ears, she’s also wearing glasses in each photo. Flutter doesn’t wear glasses and from what I can tell doesn’t have pierced ears. I don’t know.

Unfortunate how poor the quality of the pictures of Flutter are. It is hard to compare the basic features between the photos.

I’m doubling down on this not being her. Too late for me to edit my post.
This woman was born in 1995/4, and would have been 13 in 2008 when Flutter first started attention whoring on Finnish Forums. The woman on the forums also went to conventions that had age restrictions. Desucon from what I can tell started restricted its members to 18 year olds in 2016. Aside from hair / eye color / some facial features she doesn’t look much like Flutter, who clearly has some recognizable condition.
She also appears to be an average height when compared to the other subjects in the photos. The graduation photo could be an exception.
Flutter clearly has a more childlike face. The phenotype of this woman is more mature, in my opinion. Lastly, the school Flutter apparently attended was in South Ostrobothnia, she was also the class of ‘92? (In the USA it’s the year you graduate not the year you start).
The school of Ani is in Helsinki proper.
Theories also abound concerning Flutter’s name. Ani is possible but (Elli) is a more common and more likely name from what I’ve gathered.
This woman doesn’t seem like a wacko that would be Chris Chan’s penpal while cracking the books at an ostensibly prestigious school. The date of the publication of her dissertation being October 2023 and that lining up has to be a coincidence. Maybe it’s a common semester / holiday break?

Hopefully she doesn’t catch any flak from the warthogs here gunning for a person. She seems like a high flyer, unlike anyone that would waste their time with a retard that fucked their mother.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Flutter has blue eyes, as detailed in the OP. Her ear also looks pierced to me in the Walmart photo, albeit without anything in it.

Yeah, I cannot comment on the rest of it. The Finnish forums thing mighjt have been a stretch, same with South Ostrobothnia, though that seems to be more likely, though it didn't have to be that year's class, he could have simply seen her in the hallways.

But yeah, I cannot see the eye color in the above pics, but her eyes are blue. At first it was just a thing one of the Animate! Raleigh con attendees on the CWCki noticed, but later it was also a detail in the Minecraft avatar of her.
I'll look into it some more, but, again, trying to find blue eyed blonde finnish women is like trying to find a bad Sonichu issue.

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

I think I found a new candidate.

There're some physical similarities - particularly in the cheekbones - but it seems unlikely that this is her. Flutter's camera-shy and has no online footprint; this person is very much the opposite. She also has a longer face than Flutter, who embodies the Cabbage Patch Kid skull. Besides, half of the girls in that graduation photo have similar facial features to each other; it's just part of the phenotype.

Could Flutter be an old money Biomedical student who uses her parents' money to visit Chris, and is paranoid about being spotted for fear of disgracing herself immediately after graduating?

Sure, but Flutter could also be a nine-penised brachiosaur submarine captain with a penchant for Agatha Christie novels. I'm not looking to piss in anyone's cereal for trying to figure out who she is, but this evidence neither reinforces or disproves Flutter's identity. At best, it marks out Ani as someone to exclude unless solid links between her and Chris can be established, and right now there don't appear to be any.

 

[Syntaxion]

Nah that appears to be someone who actually has a life
Can't be flutter

 

[phattie]

holy fuck, this might actually be it

I know we all really want to find out who she is but we've gotta stop grasping at straws here.

This is so painfully obviously not her.

 

[Chrus Chundlur]

I think I found a new candidate.

Ani Korhonen, a former student at the University of Helsinki (note: this page hasn't been updated since 2022, which is why it makes no mention of her having graduated. Her Facebook page confirms that she has, as well as her first dissertation being in 2018.)

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Ani here graduated from 'Ressu High School', which is actually Ressu Upper Secondary School, also known as Ressun lukio (that's a lowercase 'L') - one of the most prestigious high schools in Helsinki and the entire country of Finland. She graduated in 2013, where she can be seen in this article. She's visible in one of the photos (cropped and highlighted here), where she's significantly shorter than most other people in her row:

This graduation date would make her 28 in 2023, which one could easily imagine Chris rounding to 30. It's also possible that she finished school late for one reason or another. Her going to this school also means she's filthy fucking rich, which means her constant vacations make a lot more sense.

Interestingly, the school is well-known for their chess club.

This photo of her team in 2019 shows the people in the back row being as tall or taller than her, despite being two steps down and her seemingly propping herself up (judging by her posture):


Her facial structure is almost identical (shown in the photos at the top), with the left (our right) side of her face being larger than the right, and she has the exact "babyface in certain lighting" we've seen Flutter have. She even has the same hairline (judging by where her bangs are parted). Her shoulders are also abnormally narrow, which we can see in this Flutter photo:

And she has a hair texture which is neat closer to the head but gets frizzier and more damaged on the way down, which we can see clearly in this Flutter photo (albeit much more extreme here than it was in 2018/2019):

It's also notable that for this and the Food Lion sighting, Flutter's hair was pinned behind her ears rather than her current straight bangs - which matches with the photo of Ani in 2019, where she had no cut bangs.

She's known to have traveled, with one of her posts mentioning her being in China for an extended period of time, and she has a few Facebook friends in the US.

Finally, and most notably, she and her team published their last dissertation at the start of October 2023 - lining up almost exactly with when she started seeing Chris, and even the gap between the August and October sightings.

Could Flutter be an old money Biomedical student who uses her parents' money to visit Chris, and is paranoid about being spotted for fear of disgracing herself immediately after graduating?

That one is way better looking than Flutter, queen of the Uncanny Valley.

Chris, completely out of breath, sweating, stuttering "This this troll ran up and took my picture and waved something in my f f face and I sprayed him!"

Police: "They hit you with something?"

Chris, flustered and breathing heavily, "No they took my picture! I was scared because they waved something in my face!"

Chris would have found a way to somehow insert a random list of cartoons plus mention that he is Jesus in that brief exchange.

 

[King Kiwi]

I don't know isn't Flutter a little fatter?

And isn't this girl slightly more attractive?

And why isn't flutter wearing glasses?

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

I know we all really want to find out who she is but we've gotta stop grasping at straws here.

This is so painfully obviously not her.

The big question that should be asked before claiming that a given person is Flutter: what is their demonstrable connection to Chris?

Trawling some rando's social media is all well and good, but without anything to suggest that they're even aware of Chris' existence, dropping that info here is a waste of time and effort for everyone involved.

Making a note of it? Sure, if there's a plausible reason for doing so. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

The big question that should be asked before claiming that a given person is Flutter: what is their demonstrable connection to Chris?

Trawling some rando's social media is all well and good, but without anything to suggest that they're even aware of Chris' existence, dropping that info here is a waste of time and effort for everyone involved.

Making a note of it? Sure, if there's a plausible reason for doing so. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Exactly, I've been in this for the long run and I found nothing connected to Flutter, no socials, no accounts, nothing, at least anything that's able to be demonstrably proven as her. The only things which MIGHT be related to her are Minecraft skin on Chris's account, two new profiles on Switch made sometime after March 2024, and the fact that Chris claimed to remove personal info from the Minecraft server. That might just be the trolls/handlers he's playing with, but it is likely that she at least played on his account, if she doesn't have her own one. Again, I do not suspect much coming from these.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

That's not her. Flutter is like 4'8, way shorter than that woman

Then I forgot what it was about.
Maybe it was relating to house photos?

It's still legal. As long as you are not trespassing, you can take a photo of anything or anyone you want

 

[underoo underarmour]

I appreciate the work on this, we just have to be careful we don't let ourselves get sucked into seeing what we want to find. I don't think the current person matches, but the hair and lack of bangs make the differences more obvious. I think somewhere in the back of my head I've decided that no one would go from not having bangs back to having them.

I am going to focus on potential medical conditions that could cause her appearance. That has been addressed before, but I think it is one potential avenue that could both help us objectively look at potential matches.

Elfin / Williams Syndrome - A genetic condition causing a chubby face, full cheeks, a small chin, and sometimes shortness of stature. There can be a "wide mouth" which doesn't fit, but it's not always present.

Noonan's Syndrome - A general developmental delay that can cause a variety of physical and cognitive delays. These include facial features and height but many other issues can occur. Individuals can have cognitive issues or only physical manifestations. A lot of the more common facial features don't fit, but the condition varies.

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome has been floated but doesn't fit based on facial structure imho.

Sotos and Angelman disorders have similar delays, but both have very distinct facial appearances that don't match Flutter.

Crouzon, Sethre-Chotzen, and Pfeiffer syndromes usually have more changes that present as "deformities" vs just childlike.

Teacher Collins syndrome is possible too, but the mouth is usually enlarged which doesn't fit.


Development can also be stunted by cancer and tumors specifically in the brain and endocrine (gland) systems. These can cause "child like appearance" and seem to vary a great deal from person to person. Kidney issues and steroid (medical not juicing) can cause similar issues especially if they occur before or around puberty.

There also doesn't need to be a specific or diagnosed reason for people to have these characteristics. Often times, there likely is an underlying diagnosable situation. If it didn't cause a problem, it may have never been diagnosed, or not have a been deemed a specific single condition. If there isn't a specific diagnosis and she just has a non-specific issue that slowed development it will be tougher pin down.

I'm leaning towards a non-genetic developmental issue such as childhood cancer or renal issues. I just don't think her appearance completely fits with any one of the more well-known genetic conditions completely. Anyone else that wants to throw their autism at this, please do.

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome has been floated but doesn't fit based on facial structure imho.

True, but it can manifest in degrees. That said, it doesn't quite feel right in this case.

General substance use / abuse during pregnancy could also be a factor. Not necessarily from anything controlled, but rather certain prescriptions, certain raw foods, etc.

Also, if Flutter was a late-in-life pregnancy, some of these characteristics may be present - but that does circle back to any potential medical conditions. Precocious puberty is one that's crossed my mind.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Also, the arm length of her forearms is quite a bit off. Flutter has really short forearms, while that woman has more normal proportions

 

[That Guy Who Likes The Chili]

Flutter has blue eyes, as detailed in the OP. Her ear also looks pierced to me in the Walmart photo, albeit without anything in it.

I think you suffer from face blindness. The girl you posted has more of an upturned nose, chinkier, downturned eyes and then Chin/Jaw area seems to be a triangle shape where as Flutter's head is more or less just a circle. There's also the pictures of her standing with surrounding people. She is pretty much equal height of her peers, even taller than some.

 

[King Kiwi]

Exactly, I've been in this for the long run

You've been here since 2023.

I like you Zeus but come on.

Also, the arm length of her forearms is quite a bit off. Flutter has really short forearms, while that woman has more normal proportions

The girl is clearly not a cabbage patch doll.

I think you suffer from face blindness. The girl you posted has more of an upturned nose, chinkier, downturned eyes and then Chin/Jaw area seems to be a triangle shape where as Flutter's head is more or less just a circle. There's also the pictures of her standing with surrounding people. She is pretty much equal height of her peers, even taller than some.

About the only thing they share is that they're both blonde.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

You've been here since 2023.

I like you Zeus but come on.

Long run relative to Flutter.
I started following Christory in February 2023, shortly before Chris left jail. I read the CWCki updates every week or so while watching the Geno doc, and I picked up the pace when the Flutter sightings happened.
I joined the CWCki discord right after the Baeb denial vid and the Flutter nick drop, then this place around the time the Praetorium location was found.
I am here for a short time, but I was there throrought all of the post jail Chris era and I stick to it.

 

[Scat Syde Dave]

The difficulty in putting a name to the face of this woman is that.
A. Although she has had past internet history, she obviously does not want to be discovered and probably shuttered most of her previously existing social medias to prevent a situation that has happened to the suspect above.
B. This is theorizing but I am assuming that she is a rural Finn, given the region where she had graduated and the fact that her and Chris were spotted in Urban centers like Helsinki, only to take bus routes out. Looking at the demographics of South Ostrobothnia, it appears to be a Finnish heartland, there is little exception to the Finnish racial / linguistic homogeneity there. This leads me to believe that she is just Finnish. From what I understand most Scandinavians watch their TV and play games in English, leading to a decent acquisition of the language. If the eyewitness report of her having “no accent” or speaking with a cutesy anime voice are to be believed, then it’s because of her hobbies concomitant to forums like Kuvaulauta.

The possibility of her living with relatives should also be considered. I will have to look into what her possible conditions could be, but I assume that the basic mental deficiencies, physical impediments etc come with it. Finnish welfare is also very extensive, one could live off of it indefinitely, however I don’t think you can scrounge enough of it up per month to afford multiple flights to and from the USA.

I say this because if she is living with relatives / off of social security this will make a paper trail even harder to find. The best chances of getting her are having spotters on standby at places where they have been in the past and just getting a picture. Or put up “have you seen this woman?” pictures and set out a cash-prize.

Lastly, she is the woman following Chris Chan around, a rather obscure rank in life. When they were spotted in Finland the guy had to be asked whether she was with him, and missed an opportunity to get a better picture because she’s a nobody.

 

[SlaanyChaser]

Are you faceblind? That looks nothing like cabbage.

 

[Pink-Over-Nail]

This idea of a wanted poster, with a tempting bounty as the key, would be a good strategy for hoping to find her. I hadn't thought of that.

 

[Ericson]

if we want to get anywhere, we’d need to actually verify if she was attention whoring, and get ANYTHING on her pre-chris.