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Apparently, despite half the city being on fire, LA's air quality is still better than that of New Delhi by a long shot, which kinda goes to show just how much the atmosphere has been trashed over there.
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And the next fire, when all your equipment is eroded to unusability? You clearly have never worked around machinery.
To be fair, renovating a hundred or so pumps/tanks due to salt water exposure is several orders of magnitude cheaper than rebuilding several thousand fancy homes with nice gardens.
If they are really doing it to penny pinch, they are really doing the math wrong. But hey, I guess that money comes out of someone else's pocket then and one dollar in their pocket is worth more than 1000 dollars in some schmuck's pocket.
 
It's funny that now the media cares about the ineptitude of the Democratic Party when it them getting their houses trashed. It's been pounded on all thread but it keep needs to be pointing out. They voted for this. They cheered for this. They insisted that the defining quality for their elected leaders and their government rank and file like Police and Fire is not their ability to do the job but the color of their skin, the genitals they possess, and what orifices they use to join those genitals with other people.

At no point did somebody in LA ask if maybe what it is important for a fire chief is their ability to fight fires. Yet on their website about the chief the only thing they mention as her qualifications are she is a lesbian and a woman. Why was the mayor in Ghana? To show solidarity with another woman getting elected somewhere in the world. Pure political puffery over substance. And why did the fire hydrants run dry? Because the reservoires were drained for environmental "reasons". Same "reasons" the forests were not properly maintained.

Oh no. If it isn't the consequences of my own actions! It's very easy to blame the rules in charge right now, but don't forget California. You are the rubes who put them there.
 
There's also the issue of everything you spray that seawater on being immediately destroyed. At least with freshwater there's a chance of drying some stuff out. Not seawater.

[EDIT: Whoever rated that dumb has never seen what saltwater does to a PCB]
By your logic everywhere ever touched by a hurricane should be an ecological death zone. Cursory research indicates that is not the case.

Also I think Insurance companies started to refuse to renew policies right around the time it was reported that a major water resivore was bone dry, so they probably just did the math and realize they were looking a very high payout rate. Insurance works when less then 10% of clients make a major claim, not when 90% make a claim that is many times more then what they paid for insurance.
 
There is no excuse for embezzling the Water Bonds .
Criminals.
LA could have built 3 desalination plants with the amount raised - and still offered fresh water at a rate lower than charged today.

No water in hydrants is murder. The citizens and Fire Dept. assume water in a hydrant system. This kind of surprise is criminal neglect - and people died.

(I think CA building codes require in-house sprinkler systems and those were dry as well)
Remember when the french national railway operator decided to back out of the high speed railway in California because of russian level corruption? Reminds me of that.
 
Remember when the french national railway operator decided to back out of the high speed railway in California because of russian level corruption? Reminds me of that.
They decided to go help Morocco instead. By extension after we boot Cali from the union we should invite Morocco as the replacement. They were the first nation to recognize US independance and we've had a treaty of friendship in force since 1786.
 
Even though there are receipts for every problem in LA in terms of resevoirs, broken fire hydrants, underfunded fire department, and everything else this will be shouted down as "not relevant."
Not this time. Too many rich, influential people lost all their shit. There will be 100s of books and documentaries about this fire in the years to come.
 
It's liks 50 degrees or some shit isn't it? Isn't that why the bums all go to California in the first place?
42 overnight.

Yeah, it's a big part of why bums come here. Not exactly beach weather but it's not back east where dying of exposure is a regular thing.

And I've said it before but it's totally nuts that tens of thousands of people who were housed a week ago are now living in their cars right now with their kids, their pets, and their worldly goods.

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To avoid a double post, LA Times now saying 24 confirmed dead.

This one's going to be nasty.
 
If the spread of the fire is stopped, who cares if what was put out was destroyed, it was on fire being destroyed.
This is just like, my opinion man... But my thinking would be somewhere along the lines of, "One of the major compounding factors that has made this disaster so sever was inaction/failure to maintain services/equipment. I'm not confident that the needed maintenance to ameliorate the salt damage will be done in time for the actual fire season to start. I want to run salt through all of this apparatus to put out current fires, but I am capable of seeing how that might really fuck shit up here in a few months - if this is what we're dealing with during the 'wet' season, I am VERY worried about the upcoming fire season."

But I'm just a dumb autist on the internet, so take my thoughts with a healthy dose of (sea)salt.
 
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A gorilla is onpar with beings that like to eat shit and masturbate; the Indian.
(Apologies for phone posting and derailing, but I always take the opportunity to make fun of India. Obviously the IQ scale of a gorilla is a retarded metric, but c'mon, it's funny)
 
Time for a morning Fire containment update courtesy of Watch Duty.
  • Eaton Fire: 33% contained
  • Palisades Fire: 14% contained
  • Hurst Fire: 95% contained
  • Creek Fire: 90% contained
  • Kenneth Fire: 100% contained
Today's the day where the fire crews should really put their energy into containing the Palisades Fire, that 14% containment is both embarrassing and horrifying.
 
Going to assume you are a foreigner since you are clueless about the implications of Malibu Barbie and why she's hated.

Malibu Barbie replaced the standard "beach Barbie" design in the early 70s and became THE definitive version of Barbie of the decade and influenced all later Barbies for several decades afterwards. It was the equivalent of liking the Avengers but only being able to buy the abomination that is the Brian Bendis New Avengers, as Hasbro retooled the Barbie line to focus nearly exclusively on the Malibu Barbie subline. To the point that you could not find a regular non Malibu Barbie even if you tried for a decent stretch of time during the heyday, and was satirized in Adams Family Values with Morticia sympathizing with Debbie when she explains her start of darkness was caused by her parents buying her a Malibu Barbie instead of a regular Barbie
Did not realize bringing up Malibu Barbie would be so divisive, MirrorNoir is correct about the cultural background however.

My point was that Malibu is so iconic to California that they named a whole toy line after it, not that Malibu Barbie is a great role model and encourages little girls to love trannies and deviance somehow, straight up schizo talk.
 
My point was that Malibu is so iconic to California that they named a whole toy line after it, not that Malibu Barbie is a great role model and encourages little girls to love trannies and deviance somehow, straight up schizo talk.
Counterpoint: I don't think most Californians would have been able to find Malibu with two hands and a flashlight without that doll. I think they wanted a place name that didn't sound too Mexican or too Indian, although it is ironically an Indian name. Sounds vaguely exotic, nice enough place, rich people live there, beachy shit.

Carpenteria Barbie doesn't hit the same.
 
Going to assume you are a foreigner since you are clueless about the implications of Malibu Barbie and why she's hated.

Malibu Barbie replaced the standard "beach Barbie" design in the early 70s and became THE definitive version of Barbie of the decade and influenced all later Barbies for several decades afterwards. It was the equivalent of liking the Avengers but only being able to buy the abomination that is the Brian Bendis New Avengers, as Hasbro retooled the Barbie line to focus nearly exclusively on the Malibu Barbie subline. To the point that you could not find a regular non Malibu Barbie even if you tried for a decent stretch of time during the heyday, and was satirized in Adams Family Values with Morticia sympathizing with Debbie when she explains her start of darkness was caused by her parents buying her a Malibu Barbie instead of a regular Barbie
Malibu Barbie was just one of the many Barbie iterations in the 1970s; Superstar Barbie was also released in the 1970s and became one the most popular and lucrative Barbie lines ever but because Gloria Steinem decided to get into a cat fight with Ruth Handler over this one particular doll, thus whipping up jewish female liberal hatred for the doll that continues to this day by imbeciles fixated on Malibu Barbie. All you did was regurgitate radical feminist talking points you found on Wikipedia and lines from a movie written by Pedowood jews repeating Steinems's vitriol.

You sound like a butthurt California fag trying to own the chud(ette).
One I'm a faggot who collects toys including expensive as fuck 12 inch scale military figures.
You don't collect fashion dolls. Far from the only Barbie a parent could buy in the seventies the Malibu Barbie line was the cheapest available ar the time, ubiquitous in every toy aisle fior years. Only a retard-maybe even a slimy foreign jew-would claim Hasbro changed all Barbie dolls to look like Malibu Barbie. Hasbro never had anything to do with this doll; Mattel created and owns all rights to the Barbie line from the day Ruth Handler went to her top designer and asked him to make a playline doll based on West Germany's Bild Lilli to the present.
Two, in high school, I often got forced into ISS (in school suspension IE detention) for fighting and cutting class and casual swearing. The teacher who ran ISS had a bunch of Barbie Collectors Magazines in ISS for us to read to keep us from annoying her, so I learned all about early 90s Barbie collector culture, which amounted to hating on all things Mali u Barbie and scalpers...
In other words you just vomited text in an attempt to look cool and smart only to prove you're a retarded faggot and likely a jewish foreigner yourself since had you actually read all those Barbie Bazaar magazines (the actual collector magazine that was a thing in the 80s/90s) you'd know not a single word you posted about Mattel's Barbie line of dolls was true.
Perhaps I'm just completely blinded by my hatred of Ukrainians, but this really feels like a "See they help us this one time so you can never complain about giving them billions of dollars ever again"
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No, you are 100% correct. Ukrainian empanadas, what a load of jewish bullshit, just to avoid saying pirozhki. Ask them why they aren't in a trench back home instead of grifting in the USA.
Carpenteria Barbie doesn't hit the same.
You haven't seen the Dia de los Muertos Barbie line. Ugh. Made for spergs that collect figures.
 
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Perhaps I'm just completely blinded by my hatred of Ukrainians, but this really feels like a "See they help us this one time so you can never complain about giving them billions of dollars ever again"
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the soy face taking over the actual subject of the photo is really peak California. "I want you to see this act of charity, but more importantly I want you to see ME. But not my eyes, the sunglasses stay on even in the shade."

Consider that rather than planning for a massvie fire, greed and corruption meant a fire was simply inevitable and the insurers saw the writing on the wall. The water supplies in CA are used to fuel corperate farming interests, the state wants to save money by not funding expensive services so cut them, combined together with hit wind, aussie trees and some light arson and here we are.

Asmongold summed it up really well, Fire Insurance is you betting that your house will burn down, the insurance companies are betting it won't. They play and profit most times, but when they pull out of the game because the odds are that bad for them, well, you win. Your house burned down.
 
The cope of "well seawater can ruin hoses and pumps" or whatever excuses you hear is so pathetic since the other option is everything just burning down.
Exactly.
[EDIT: Whoever rated that dumb has never seen what saltwater does to a PCB]
Watch this video, Sal explains it all. There is nothing wrong with using seawater to fight fires. What do you think those planes that aren't dropping retardant are using?
Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon in 2023 according to this article. How's that sanctuary city/state thing working out?

Suspect arrested with ‘flamethrower’ near LA Fire is an illegal immigrant: report
New York Post (archive.ph)
By Jennie Taer and Patrick Reilly
2025-01-13 15:37:17GMT
The homeless man tackled and zip-tied by onlookers who say he was trying to start fires with a blowtorch near a Los Angeles wildfire is an illegal immigrant who will likely be protected by California’s sanctuary city status, according to a report.

The suspect, identified as Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva, is a Mexican national who is in the United States illegally, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) sources told Fox News.

He was chased and taken down by residents of Woodland Hills after they allegedly saw him torching old Christmas trees and debris on fire with what one resident described as a “flamethrower” soon after the massive wildfire began Thursday.

The suspect is being held on a felony probation violation, the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) said, without detailing his previous conviction.

Detectives are still investigating it as possible arson, but LAPD Assistant Chief Dominic Choi said Friday that there was not immediately enough evidence for that charge.

ICE will place a detainer request on him, but the federal agency does not expect it to be honored due to California’s sanctuary state law, sources told Fox News.

“The lack of communication between local and federal law enforcement agencies in Los Angeles due to sanctuary policies put in place by LA city council and Governor [Gavin] Newsom, have resulted in many arrests that have been unreported to and followed up by ICE,” a law enforcement source told The Post.

“Many of which are criminals who have numerous encounters with local law enforcement for serious crimes,” they added.

California’s sanctuary state law, passed in 2017, ensures that no state resources are used to assist federal immigration enforcement.

The Los Angeles City Council unanimously passed an ordinance in November that prohibits the use of city resources and personnel to carry out federal immigration enforcement.

Sierra-Leyva has a lengthy rap sheet in LA County and has been convicted of multiple crimes — including assault with a deadly weapon in 2023, records show.

He has collectively spent more than two years in jail, sources told The Post.

It’s not clear where or when he crossed into the US.

Video that went viral shows neighbors cornering and then detaining Sierra-Leyva as he holds what one resident described as a “flamethrower” on the street, with one man yelling at him: “Put it down!”

Renata Grinshpun told KTLA she was in her backyard when she heard a car screech to a stop and a man yelling that someone was trying to start a fire.

“A few gentlemen surrounded him and got him on his knees. They got some zip ties, a rope and we were able to do a citizens’ arrest,” Grinshpun said.

The LAPD responded and arrested Sierra-Leyva, video from the scene shows. The major crimes squad was called in because he was “a possible arson suspect” — but no arson charges were brought against him, Choi told reporters Friday.

It was not immediately clear for what felony Sierra-Leyva was on parole.

The Kenneth Fire burned more than 1,050 acres (1.6 square miles) over three days in Los Angeles and Ventura counties. It was completely contained by Sunday morning.

The cause of the fire remains under investigation.
 
"at least 24 dead, 16 missing"
"12,300 structures destroyed
"40,306 acres burned"
"105,000 still under evacuation"
"Palisades 13% contained"
"Eaton 27% contained"
"Fire offices, county officals in 30 minutes"
"5pm eastern LA DA on arson looting"
"515 pm eastern Biden"


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