Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[SCV]

Certainly although there is a possibility that Null may have no choice on Settlement. Consider the situation where the Judge REALLY wants you to settle and will punish you for not settling. Even if you don't want to settle you still have to pretend that you were willing to do so. And the only real way to accomplish that is to offer something semi-reasonable.

Fine. Here's my semi-reasonable settlement offer: "drop case with prejudice, admit guilt, pay ALL our fees and costs".

 

[obsdj]

Consider the situation where the Judge REALLY wants you to settle and will punish you for not settling. Even if you don't want to settle you still have to pretend that you were willing to do so.

Is this actually a pervasive situation in civil suits, provably so? Because it screams "miscarriage of justice" and "blatantly encouraging vexatious litigants to press lawsuit after lawsuit" if that's the case.

If a falsely-accused defendant wants his day in court, and a judge pressures him to settle just to make the judge's life and docket easier, I would hope the defendant and all his autistic friends drag that judge hard.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

What was the 10th Circuit thinking. Russ was always going to fuck up.

I don't think anyone knows what the 10th circuit court was thinking.

Even reading the ruling several times I'm still confused by their leaps of logic to conflate someone posting a link to another site as contributory copyright infringement on the site owners behalf. I'd like to think that the court knew all about the Farms and just wanted to hurt Jersh but that's pretty unlikely. And the briefings by the scam lawyers are pretty paper
thin on facts and case law but I guess it was enough for the court to rule in Greer's favour. The original judge was right in that Greer had nothing to bring before the court besides hearsay and conjectural evidence. The best bit is, if Russell loses he may wish that he had never appealed in the first place.

The truth is that the appeals court merely stated that Russ'tard has appearance of a case of contributory copyright infringement if all the facts were taken as true, which we now know is wrong. That Melonhead was in fact lying to the court about pretty much everything in his brief.

He has no facts, he has no witnesses, he has no paper trail of evidence that Jersh did indeed urge people to steal Greer's book like he claimed. He has nothing, zip, nadda except his "plights" which have absolutely nothing to do with the case despite Greer's best attempts to claim so.

In fact all he has are some copies of mean posts "abusing" him and "harassing" emails that could've be by sent anyone, including Greer. He's got nothing to bring before the court as proof that Josh was personally responsible for the act of contributing to copyright infringement.

While I still think this magistrate is in Geer's corner due to all his previous aid to Mushmouth, I am no longer as sure that Greer is going to walk away the winner now. In fact I eagerly await the courts reply to Hardin's costs and Greer's rebuttal to see where the magistrate takes it.

 

[Windy Moors]

Y'know, when the case is finally over and done I really really want null to talk about all of it. Like an entire full comprehensive story with every detail he has had to be vague on non confrontational on fully discussed. Maybe even it's own stream.

Say wasn't there a Youtube lawyer that used to cover Greer, maybe Null can go on his show to discuss the whole ordeal. His name is escaping me at the moment, I think it was Ricotta or something like that.

 

[Harvey Danger]

The truth is that the appeals court merely stated that Russ'tard has appearance of a case of contributory copyright infringement if all the facts were taken as true, which we now know is wrong. That Melonhead was in fact lying to the court about pretty much everything in his brief.

This should eventually become the basis of Josh asking for 100% attorney fee recovery, for everything past the appeal coming back. Hardin wouldn't have had to file a single motion if Russ had told the courts the truth, but the process since then has revealed the very existence of the case was predicated on lies and bad-faith claims about evidence.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Say wasn't there a Youtube lawyer that used to cover Greer, maybe Null can go on his show to discuss the whole ordeal. His name is escaping me at the moment, I think it was Ricotta or something like that.

I'm actually surprised that massive cock garbler Leonard French isn't covering this. He hates the Farms and did cover the David Stabbins (acerthorn) lawsuits but he's been oddly quiet about Greer's case.

 

[RodgerDodger]

ven reading the ruling several times I'm still confused by their leaps of logic to conflate someone posting a link to another site as contributory copyright infringement on the site owners behalf. I'd like to think that the court knew all about the Farms and just wanted to hurt Jersh but that's pretty unlikely. And the briefings by the scam lawyers are pretty paper

Didn't the opinion by the 10th circuit reference that salacious and and inaccurate WaPo article?

 

[FamicomGorby]

Didn't the opinion by the 10th circuit reference that salacious and and inaccurate WaPo article?

They also cited that somehow posting a DMCA letter, or what passes for one from a retard like Greer, contributes to copyright infringement or harassment.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Didn't the opinion by the 10th circuit reference that salacious and and inaccurate WaPo article?

yah that's where Russ got his "mindset to likely infringe" wording from. The court implied that the kind of people who would tend to be on a site like Kiwi Farms would "be of the mindset to likely infringe on other peoples copyrights".

I wish Null could sue the 10th circuit for slander. They basically called everyone who ever used the Farms criminals.

 

[DHugo]

I wish Null could sue the 10th circuit for slander. They basically called everyone who ever used the Farms criminals.

Yeah baby, I'm criminally retarded

 

[Useful_Mistake]

yah that's where Russ got his "mindset to likely infringe" wording from.

The 10th circuit did not mention that specific phrase:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca10.84025/gov.uscourts.ca10.84025.10010936535.1.pdf

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

The 10th circuit did not mention that specific phrase:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca10.84025/gov.uscourts.ca10.84025.10010936535.1.pdf

my bad then

I thought that's where I last saw it. Too many lolsuits, so little braincells left.

 

[Thomas Talus]

If the original judge would have just done his job then Russ would have gotten away with merely a hurt ego.

The original judge did her(?) job and dismissed the case due to failure to state a claim. It's the 10th Circuit that made the current pig's breakfast.

 

[Post Reply]

He has no facts, he has no witnesses, he has no paper trail of evidence that Jersh did indeed

You will never be a real plaintiff. You have no facts, you have no witnesses, you have no evidence. You are a vexatious litigant twisted by Moebius Syndrome into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back Taylor Swift mocks you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “appeals lawyers” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Judges are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed judges to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even vexatious litigants who “pass” sound uncanny and unnatural to a judge. Your lip structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk appellate court to agree with you, they'll turn tail and bolt the second you take your face mask off.

 

[The Dude]

That's cute and all until you realize that he lived a subsistent existence with help from mom and dad, saving up penny he could so that he could pretend he had a girlfriend for a few hours, and several times he didn't even fuck the hooker, or sending it to Fiverbros to make some Chechenia hooker model for his shitty music videos . A retard and his money are soon parted, and when dad cut him off, all of a sudden those proud announcements about bedding a whore or a brand new video that is sure to make X CELEBRITY GOES HERE fall in love with his boyish charm dried up faster than a 98 year old cooch that's been in the desert for a week.

Again, we have absolutely zero evidence that his parents have ever been financially supportive of Russ. The only time that we know for certain that his parents have stepped in to help him monetarily was when they hired the attorney for him when Erika took him to court. And they may have given him his first car, that Chrysler Dart thing, but we don't know for sure either way. They may have made him buy it from them. For everything else, all evidence that we have points to Russhole having supported himself 100%. And I highly doubt that his devout LDS parents would be willing to financially assist him when they know what their son's favorite past time is and that any money they give him had a strong chance of going right into some whore's bank account. I can't see them sanctioning that.

 

[CEO of Gay]

It will stop being funny when retards stop getting butthurt about it. (Still love you, Useful_Mistake )

Didn't the opinion by the 10th circuit reference that salacious and and inaccurate WaPo article?

I wonder, do you think Dong Gone tried to have a girl talk with one or more of the judges of the 10th circuit, one or more of their clerks, or their wives/girlfriends?

 

[cromit]

Please stop tagging me when you make jokes about Mr. Hardin.

Please, we all know you’re not Hardin. You and @AnOminous are unpaid paralegals who do all this legal spergery, up to and including purchasing court documents and transcripts, for absolutely free funee stiker on poaste.

 

[ScooterL]

when they know what their son's favorite past time is

I don't believe we know for sure that they're aware of Russell's whoring ways.

His abject terror of his family being questioned by Mr Hardin suggests to me he might be keeping secrets from them that he knows risk exposure in a deposition.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Please, we all know you’re not Hardin. You and @AnOminous are unpaid paralegals who do all this legal spergery, up to and including purchasing court documents and transcripts, for absolutely free funee stiker on poaste.

Hmm I pretty sure we know @AnOminous was actually a lawyer. He was just disbarred for what he did to those kittens in the broom closet.

 

[Null]

Hardin's rates are beyond merciful. The Australians are straight up fucking evil.