US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[God of Nothing]

Gotta milk that niggercattle.

damn right
i'm getting a lot from this

....wait a minute

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

It wasn't a secret in 2009. They don't need to be hypersonic if you can fire 500 in one salvo, there's no defense. Have you been paying attention to how the f'ing Houthi's have chased off our carriers repeatedly with a fraction of the tech? The surface fleet is obsolete against peer enemies and has been for a very long time.

The hypersonic missile tech was developed from scientists studying anti-grav technology. The lead scientist in question deferred and abandoned the CCP and fled to the US. They then finished the anti-grav studies here in the US in the early 2010s. They were then later kidnapped by CCP spies and returned to China. So if China has hypersonic tech, then chances are we do. Biden is lying when he says we don't have anything like that or he simply doesn't know about it. The reality is, the US is at the lead for more tech than we realize.

Look at the robot dogs patrolling Mar-A-Lago, they're fucking terrifying. I would not want to be an enemy soldier running into one of those things.

 

[Jace on ice]

Stephen Colbert is quitting his late night show
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Twoooooooooo scooooooooooops!

Damm you Bluuuuuuuuuuuumpf!

 

[WelperHelper99]

Funny thing is, Chinese are very nouveau riche about it - they want to have carriers because every superpower has carriers, no matter how much of an useless money sink yachts carriers are in current realities of warfare. They are status symbols to them like gold chains are to rappers.

Something close to the size of a Ford or Nimitz is not a mere flex.


That is a weapon meant to reach out and touch somebody.

 

[Verdun_Salient]

Changing subject, did you know that SufficientVelocity considers Biden to be Trump second term? They also really hate him

 

[God of Nothing]

Changing subject, did you know that SufficientVelocity considers Biden to be Trump second term? They also really hate him

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autism is just another form of retardation

 

[mlanguishi]

Just 2 or 3 years ago these numbers were probably reversed, pretty nuts.

 

[teriyakiburns]

That is a weapon meant to reach out and touch somebody.

Given the PLAN's historical performance, it's as likely to sink itself as anyone else.

And I'd argue that China's carriers are mostly for show. Or rather, they're the outward expression of a very expensive cargo cult, in the sense that China wants to show that it isn't inferior to America, and America has super carriers, so China must also have super carriers. In the process, they're trying to skip over about a century of development of doctrine and institutional knowledge, which just won't work, because such knowledge is only acquired through long experience. Given enough time, they could develop the knowledge, but it would require decades of effort and a complete reform of the entire PLA to allow for the development of a professional, independent officer corps that isn't beholden to political expedience for its position.

Of the nations currently fielding any sort of aircraft carriers, only two have demonstrated the ability to carry out sustained carrier operations, and only one of those - the United States - is currently capable. The USN and the RN developed their carrier expertise over the course of more than 50 years of continuous, sustained carrier operations. Nobody else has achieved that.

Of course, the Royal navy lost most of its institutional knowledge in the 80s, when the Ark Royal was scrapped without a replacement, and is currently struggling to re-acquire that knowledge.

The Russians never managed to develop the doctrine necessary for competent carrier operations as their carriers were built purely because the enemy had them; they were never able to keep them operational for very long, due to poor design, poor training, and lack of ability to retain institutional knowledge. The outcome of this was made clear during the Syria intervention, when the Admiral Kuznetsov managed to launch a handful of fighters for a couple of days before setting on fire and falling apart.

India's carrier keeps setting on fire and has threatened to sink more than once. They've never been able to project even the slightest bit of force. Their carriers are for display purposes only.

France's Charles de Gaulle, while has operated fairly well, has spent a significant portion of its life under maintenance and is now less an operational carrier than a vanity yacht for French admirals to preen about.

China is doing what China always does: building lots of shiny things while declaring itself the centre of the world, to whom all tribute is owed and before whom all must bow. Their carriers are meant to reinforce that image, but appearance of force and actual ability to project force are very different things. And, lest we forget, China always lies about its capabilities.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

Just the launch price to get the craft to LEO is $62m (price of putting 27,000 kg in orbit with SpaceX). So 4 missions per craft x 60 craft = $15 billion just in flight costs. This is supposed to be cheaper than carrier-borne jets?

Does a drone really weigh 108,000kg ?
I thought they only weighed 5000-20,000lbs. Which would let you send multiple per trip. If thats the case, or the cost to get to space goes down further, it's cheaper than carrier-borne jets because you don't need to maintain 50 something air craft carriers, their crew, or pay the strategic cost spent sailing to a destination or sitting on drydocks awaiting repairs.

 

[demicolon]

How much does China pay you to assume the US will lose every battle to them? China is just as I'd not more likely to lose their carriers then the US.

I'm neither a member of the 50cent club nor did I say China's gonna win against the US. Difference is I doubt China would care much about losing a carrier outside the blow to morale it would cause.

US carriers are about apearance and functionality. You and your chinese bugmen leaders don't get that. The problem with your example is you buy a Lambo. You don't have your slave labor construction a 3rd rate Lambo.

US Navy and functionality lmao let me tell you these boys would never risk their beloved Ferraris in a real fight.

Wow. That's a good idea about a small ship! Now imagine what you could do with a carrier. You could have it set up to keep making more drones so you have the capacity to replace the ones your losing. Guess what other advantage you have, more drones!! Who do you think has the advantage: a carrier with a thousands drones or a converted fishing boat with a handful. Going to let you ponder that for awhile

Make that a 1000 converted fishing boats, half of which you can write off as casualties without stress, vs. a single Colossus you can't lose no matter what.

Also your sniper scenario is just plain retarded. Stop watching marvel movies and get with reality

My sniper scenario is something Russians did in Georgia when dealing with urban snipers.

That is a weapon meant to reach out and touch somebody.

That is a floating Balldomobile. Its purpose is to give Chink nationalists erections you'd see in a Mr. Nubly comic.

 

[Snekposter]

Given the PLAN's historical performance, it's as likely to sink itself as anyone else.

And I'd argue that China's carriers are mostly for show. Or rather, they're the outward expression of a very expensive cargo cult, in the sense that China wants to show that it isn't inferior to America, and America has super carriers, so China must also have super carriers. In the process, they're trying to skip over about a century of development of doctrine and institutional knowledge, which just won't work, because such knowledge is only acquired through long experience. Given enough time, they could develop the knowledge, but it would require decades of effort and a complete reform of the entire PLA to allow for the development of a professional, independent officer corps that isn't beholden to political expedience for its position.

Of the nations currently fielding any sort of aircraft carriers, only two have demonstrated the ability to carry out sustained carrier operations, and only one of those - the United States - is currently capable. The USN and the RN developed their carrier expertise over the course of more than 50 years of continuous, sustained carrier operations. Nobody else has achieved that.

Of course, the Royal navy lost most of its institutional knowledge in the 80s, when the Ark Royal was scrapped without a replacement, and is currently struggling to re-acquire that knowledge.

The Russians never managed to develop the doctrine necessary for competent carrier operations as their carriers were built purely because the enemy had them; they were never able to keep them operational for very long, due to poor design, poor training, and lack of ability to retain institutional knowledge. The outcome of this was made clear during the Syria intervention, when the Admiral Kuznetsov managed to launch a handful of fighters for a couple of days before setting on fire and falling apart.

India's carrier keeps setting on fire and has threatened to sink more than once. They've never been able to project even the slightest bit of force. Their carriers are for display purposes only.

France's Charles de Gaulle, while has operated fairly well, has spent a significant portion of its life under maintenance and is now less an operational carrier than a vanity yacht for French admirals to preen about.

China is doing what China always does: building lots of shiny things while declaring itself the centre of the world, to whom all tribute is owed and before whom all must bow. Their carriers are meant to reinforce that image, but appearance of force and actual ability to project force are very different things. And, lest we forget, China always lies about its capabilities.

One more thing I'd like to add, this time about the hypersonics China boasts about... they're big, and their launchers are big, and that means their launch sites have to be big. Being big means they're both difficult to hide and stationary. Sure would suck for the Chinese if the USA had a ton of long-range airplanes explicitly designed to level big, stationary targets that have trouble hiding where they are.

Anyone who thinks the USA is just going to blithely sail a carrier group into range of something like that has a hole in the head where their entire brain used to be.

Make that a 1000 converted fishing boats, half of which you can write off as casualties without stress, vs. a single Colossus you can't lose no matter what.

Yeah, uh... the US Navy has already successfully tested laser systems explicitly designed to take out drones and small boats. But hey, keep thinking the USA has absolutely nothing but carriers in service, and that said carriers are completely incapable of mounting defensive weapons.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Just 2 or 3 years ago these numbers were probably reversed, pretty nuts.

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It kind of makes sense to me. People have been conditioned to be accommodating to people who are different. Of course now that they realize what a bunch of degenerate freaks troons are they are slamming on the brakes.

It would be awesome if after the car skids to a halt normies throw it in reverse and drive the homosexes back into the closet.

 

[George Lucas]

That reminds me, all talk show hosts...

Would be bad if they got into self defense situations.

This is some of the funniest shit I’ve seen.

 

[The Ugly One]

Does a drone really weigh 108,000kg ?
I thought they only weighed 5000-20,000lbs. Which would let you send multiple per trip. If thats the case, or the cost to get to space goes down further, it's cheaper than carrier-borne jets because you don't need to maintain 50 something air craft carriers, their crew, or pay the strategic cost spent sailing to a destination or sitting on drydocks awaiting repairs.

I'm basing the weight on what an F-35 can deliver x 4, since a Nimitz class can carry enough for each fighter to run 4 sorties. To deliver equivalent firepower, you'd need to put 4 27kg LEO fighter drones in space (or 8 13.5kg drones, doesnt matter), for every 1 F-35 on a carrier. That's not even taking account that after every mission, you have another $65m launch cost.

Space is cheaper than it used to be, but seafaring is way way way cheaper.

 

[Quence]

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists

Also, if you don't want to use profanity, don't, it's all good. If you do want to use it, that's good too, go right ahead. Just don't try to fencesit it.

“Scientists say…”, “Studies show….”, and proceeds to post a link to a shyte-tier ’study’ that confirms his beliefs. But it is wrong, YOU are wrong, and people who insist on using cuss words are mental deadbeats.

Obviously I’m not a fence sitter on this issue. My position has been consistent.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

MLK helped set us back as a nation ~50 years regardless if his intentions were good.

(1) Fuck all niggers. 99.9% of blacks do not correlate with our American culture regardless of your opinion on it. Niggers have a rotten culture and only serve to undermine our "growth" as a country if you care about it, and if you don't they only serve to undermine us as people and as a society, or even a fucking commune. They are a cultural stagnation in population form. Blacks do not belong here. Are you willing to let the hoods continue just for that 0.1%? They should be sent back to Africa right now, the amazing results for America will shock you to your core. And then they'll make Africa an even worse Hellscape.

And MLK's suspicious assassination only worsened race relations on top of Malcolm X, those two niggers pretty much turned niggers into worse people as a result of their speeches. Not that it matters anymore, the past means next to nothing to me but it does give some context for where we are at and why.
Feds facilitate it all, it's by design. Eliminate them both and America will be a little closer to free.

TL;DR: Yeah it is the feds fault, but also the media and some terrorist assholes.

Blacks were doing fine until the gov’t tried to regulate race relations. The opening for this was created via a combination of John Wilkes Booth writing a teenage MySpace manifesto before shooting Lincoln, starting the carpetbagger movement alongside a Confederate loser turned terrorist (something Bedford Hughes, IIRC) re-upping the KKK and shitting over all of Robert E. Lee’s work on reconciliation.

Frederick Douglas actually had things going at a proper pace socially and Booker T Washington had the right ideas about the required work ethic. Note how the media will mention the names but always sweep them under the rug right afterwards?

Welfare and Communism were the death blows that led things to be where they are in the end. This is why you really don‘t hate the media enough. They literally bury any signs of black Americanism and always push the oppression narrative like no tomorrow.

 

[Not Really Here]

Not trillions dude. Billions

Consider the source, billions of USD are x7.3 RMB.

I keep hearing about this but I never understood the full train of logic.

"Quantity has a quality all of its own"- Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.
Remember World War Z, with the zombies defeating fortresses via sheer numbers? That, but with missiles, and drones, as the zombies, and a carrier as the fortress.

Of course that ignores the fact carriers are never deployed alone, and are accompanied by 2 Guided Missile Cruisers, 2 Anti Aircraft Warships, and 1-2 Anti Submarine Destroyers or Frigates.
Also, the first nation to sink a US carrier has like a 70% chance of being bitchslapped by the sun.

 

[neger psykolog]

Trump is selling NFT's

http://gettrumpmemes.com/

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https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1880446012168249386

https://megalodon.jp/2025-0118-1147-27/https://x.com:443/realDonaldTrump/status/1880446012168249386

This is not an NFT project. It is a memecoin.
It has reached a valuation that makes it the 27th largest cryptocurrency in less than a day which is extremely notable.

I explained more in a post on the community happenings thread: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/community-feature-submissions.114933/post-20352318

 

[Quence]

Women can be faggots because it just means homosexual retards

No. Women can be lesbians. Only men can be faggots.

 

[Breadbassket]

Blacks were doing fine until the gov’t tried to regulate race relations. The opening for this was created via a combination of John Wilkes Booth writing a teenage MySpace manifesto before shooting Lincoln, starting the carpetbagger movement alongside a Confederate loser turned terrorist (something Bedford Hughes, IIRC) re-upping the KKK and shitting over all of Robert E. Lee’s work on reconciliation.

Frederick Douglas actually had things going at a proper pace socially and Booker T Washington had the right ideas about the required work ethic. Note how the media will mention the names but always sweep them under the rug right afterwards?

Racial "reconciliation" was always going to be a mess after the American Civil War. White Southerners, especially ones who lost their businesses, livelihood or family members due to the conflict were never going to be happy with the violent demise of what was the economic driver of the region. It was a time of social upheaval. There was also the Radical Republicans who unlike Lincoln and Johnson who opposed allowing ex-Confederate politicians and military veterans to retake political power. This added fuel to the flames. Carpetbaggers were also always going to appear to because taking advantage of the burnt down former lands of the Confederacy was a prime business opportunity for some.

Frederick Douglas and Booker T. Washington are two figures that had an impact in some way but perhaps they are overlooked at times for the same reason. Both were born as slaves, both later became free, and both tried to be pragmatic by advancing their cause in a way that is not entirely hostile to the sensibilities of the eras they lived in. They are not Nat Turner-like figures who were radicals and died in the process of a racial rebellion. Frederick Douglass married a white woman and was the American ambassador to Haiti. Booker T. Washington accepted segregation in the Atlanta Compromise and argued against black political agitation. The two men are easy to spin as racial traitors.