Horrorcow Bryan Johnson / Don't Die movement - How far would you go to live forever?

[Kiwisee]

You know what? I kinda respect that the only person he is testing all of this on is himself. His transparency also makes him more endearing to me, even if I don’t think he’ll succeed at what he’s trying to accomplish. It’s a lot more than I can say about most people like him.

Perhaps I’m just jaded from all the horrorcows we get. It’s refreshing to see a genuinely eccentric person just being eccentric.

 

[Mao Hao Hao]

I never understand why someone would want to live forever, it's bad enough keeping up with the advancements in tech, language etc in a normal lifespan, never mind if you were some eons old immortal.
Best example I can think of is Green Mile (the novel, the movie didn't go into it as deep) and how everyone who was healed by John had their lifespans extended well beyond a normal human, but it was depressing as they ended up watching everyone they love around them die of old age, even their children.
At least he's using his own resources and money etc, but its still not great if others try and copy him and end up killing themselves/loved ones through botched attempts.
He's up there with those people who freeze themselves to be reawakened in the future.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

If he's so obsessed with youth, why does his hairline still look like a man in his 40s? He already fucked around with his body enough, why doesn't he just get hair implants or whatever? Look at that mullet! It's absolutely ridiculous looking! If he fixed his hair than he might superficially pass as a 20-something in the same way some troons succeed until you look at them closely.

I never understand why someone would want to live forever, it's bad enough keeping up with the advancements in tech, language etc in a normal lifespan, never mind if you were some eons old immortal.

Because life is too damn short and there's always something new to learn, create, see, etc. each day. The world is a big place, even if most of it is a shithole.

 

[Rembrandt]

the only person he is testing all of this on is himself

He's dragging his son into it.

 

[Core Theorist]

"why do people want to live forever anyway?"

Imagine all the shitposts you'll miss, isn't that worth any price?!

 

[Crex Crex]

Just take mercury pills bro.

 

[grand larsony]

Just take mercury pills bro.

Johnson entering a tapeworm arc would be incredible

 

[Lords Greatsword]

Whatever's in store his insides and overall biochemistry is beyond me, but even in his face and body, he still exhibits his actual age. Those photos of his face just look like attempts to mask it with make-up, photo editing, and whatnot - no new ground broken there.
But, something that stood out was that point of him undergoing a decade-long depression right before his fanaticism toward immortality began. Reminiscent of a Faustian bargain. There might be even more behind that uncanny affect of his than one could guess.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I am glad that such people exist and document their work to the public
They do it with their own money, their own risks, and don't withhold the information
Surely someone who's more pragmatic can take useful knowledge out of this

Yeah. My take is he's weird and just succeeded in making himself look weird (though he's surprisingly self depreciating about some of that), but it's good he's doing it. Some of the things he does are dumb and probably do nothing, some are expensive or impractical for normies, but some may have a certain effect on aspects of aging and him testing them and sharing the results is good for everyone overall.

As I get older, my goal is not to necessarily try and live to 120 or something impossible or look younger, but to retain more of my faculties and abilities to be able to enjoy life. For example I take collagen, one of the few things where there's objective science showing it works. I do it not to reverse or fight off wrinkles, but so that I can push back having that thin, crepey, easily breakable and bruisable skin when I'm in my 70s and 80s. If I can heal better when I'm older, that's a good thing. I want to be able to walk around and live my life like I do now as long as I can.

 

[grand larsony]

Whatever's in store his insides and overall biochemistry is beyond me, but even in his face and body, he still exhibits his actual age. Those photos of his face just look like attempts to mask it with make-up, photo editing, and whatnot - no new ground broken there.
But, something that stood out was that point of him undergoing a decade-long depression right before his fanaticism toward immortality began. Reminiscent of a Faustian bargain. There might be even more behind that uncanny affect of his than one could guess.

When I was doing research for this thread and learned he grew up Mormon it all kinda clicked together. It seems like Mormons can't do anything halfway. The Mormon church seems to demand a lot more involvement from its participants than most other religious groups and so it both self-selects for and creates people who are very fanatical in general. Either you join the Mormon church as a replacement for a strong vice, like heroin addicts who convert and then won't shut up about how the church saved them, or you grow up in it and leave later, taking that fanaticism with you to whatever new thing you're doing.
This is all vibes-based from the Mormons I've met over the years though. If any Kiwis know more about Mormons I'd love to hear their takes

 

[i440BX]

This is all vibes-based from the Mormons I've met over the years though. If any Kiwis know more about Mormons I'd love to hear their takes

Ask @WelperHelper99. He is Mormon.

 

[hotcheetospuffs]

He claims to no longer be Mormon but I suspect he still is and just tries to distance himself from that world because of his business. He still refrains from alcohol and caffeine.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I'm curious how this guy would have reacted if his kids said they didn't want to donate their plasma to him. It seems unlikely to me that they're going along with this entirely of their own free will, simply because I don't think most people would. If their parents actually needed it? Sure, but that's not really what's happening here.

I'd be very interested to know the family dynamics behind the scenes. Threatening not to pay their college tuition? Kick them off their health insurance before they're 26? Write them out of the will? Maybe his kids really are just as on board with their dad's anti-aging experiment as he is, but it also wouldn't surprise me at all if there's some attempted coercion going on here.

 

[WelperHelper99]

When I was doing research for this thread and learned he grew up Mormon it all kinda clicked together. It seems like Mormons can't do anything halfway. The Mormon church seems to demand a lot more involvement from its participants than most other religious groups and so it both self-selects for and creates people who are very fanatical in general. Either you join the Mormon church as a replacement for a strong vice, like heroin addicts who convert and then won't shut up about how the church saved them, or you grow up in it and leave later, taking that fanaticism with you to whatever new thing you're doing.
This is all vibes-based from the Mormons I've met over the years though. If any Kiwis know more about Mormons I'd love to hear their takes

Ask @WelperHelper99. He is Mormon.

Is this the blood vampire guy? I'll say this, if he was Mormon, this right here is a very good reason he left. This guy sounds like a fruit from the start. Could his past teachings influence him? Possibly. But this is well and truly beyond the bounds. This guy sounds like he was crazy already.

 

[grand larsony]

I'm curious how this guy would have reacted if his kids said they didn't want to donate their plasma to him. It seems unlikely to me that they're going along with this entirely of their own free will, simply because I don't think most people would. If their parents actually needed it? Sure, but that's not really what's happening here.

I'd be very interested to know the family dynamics behind the scenes. Threatening not to pay their college tuition? Kick them off their health insurance before they're 26? Write them out of the will? Maybe his kids really are just as on board with their dad's anti-aging experiment as he is, but it also wouldn't surprise me at all if there's some attempted coercion going on here.

He has 3 kids total, but only his son Talmage seems to really be on board with all the weird stuff. His dad Richard was involved in the blood plasma thing but I don't think, judging from the pictures of him, that he's a lot more involved than just that one incident. I found a couple different sources talking about his other 2 kids but all the information I've found about them comes from unreliable looking sources. What they seem to all agree on is that Bryan's other 2 kids stayed with his ex-wife in Utah after their divorce.

Is this the blood vampire guy? I'll say this, if he was Mormon, this right here is a very good reason he left. This guy sounds like a fruit from the start. Could his past teachings influence him? Possibly. But this is well and truly beyond the bounds. This guy sounds like he was crazy already.

Makes sense that they wouldn't want to be too closely associated with him with how far he takes this stuff. Aren't Mormons pretty pro-technology? I seem to remember them having some other interesting transhumanist ideas but that might be some other group I'm thinking of. I'm not sure what level of involvement Bryan has with the church now but it seems that he was pretty involved when he was younger. If/when he left or became less involved isn't obvious from the stuff I've read

 

[WelperHelper99]

Makes sense that they wouldn't want to be too closely associated with him with how far he takes this stuff. Aren't Mormons pretty pro-technology? I seem to remember them having some other interesting transhumanist ideas but that might be some other group I'm thinking of. I'm not sure what level of involvement Bryan has with the church now but it seems that he was pretty involved when he was younger. If/when he left or became less involved isn't obvious from the stuff I've read

I mean we don't ban computers or anything. Transhumanism though? We don't allow tattoos man. Doing the shit he is doing would be at the very LEAST a question of doctrine. And most likely he would have been told to knock it off for defililing God's Temple. Its not a prosthetic where he got his leg blown off, he's doing vampire shit. It's going into the heracy territory. I don't have the full answer for you, but my gut says no. This guy is not Mormon currently.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Someday this guy will still die. And I'll laugh.

That's what I think makes him a lolcow. Only lunatics want to live forever.

There's something very "ugly lesbian" about him. It's really off putting. I think he'd make a good Star Trek alien. That's about it.

He looks like an ugly space lesbian because he takes hormones like troons do.

You know what? I kinda respect that the only person he is testing all of this on is himself. His transparency also makes him more endearing to me, even if I don’t think he’ll succeed at what he’s trying to accomplish. It’s a lot more than I can say about most people like him.

Perhaps I’m just jaded from all the horrorcows we get. It’s refreshing to see a genuinely eccentric person just being eccentric.

He sells diet and supplement bullshit to people, he is undoubtedly influencing normies to try the same dangerous shit as him, and he's dragging his son and father into his madness. This guy is far from harmless.

Imagine being so fucking dumb that you buy the "elites swap blood from the young to live longer" conspiracy theory and dump all your money into doing it. Spoiler alert: that's not how it works, at all, and an amateur understanding of anatomy and biology is all you need to realize that this guy is a retard. Furthermore, rich people who do blood swaps without an illness do it because it can help with hangovers. These people are professional drunks.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

I am glad that such people exist and document their work to the public
They do it with their own money, their own risks, and don't withhold the information
Surely someone who's more pragmatic can take useful knowledge out of this

I'm also glad he's willing to be a guinea pig and documents his experiments for others to see, but what has he unearthed that we don't already know from common sense?

Sleep well, eat healthy, do exercise, avoid stress and pollution, inject experimental chemicals into your body that only the rich can afford. These are so well known that if you're not doing them, it's because you either can't or don't care.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I'm also glad he's willing to be a guinea pig and documents his experiments for others to see, but what has he unearthed that we don't already know from common sense?

As far as I know, the documents he provides are all self-reported and are not verified by a third party. Showing documents =/= transparency if it's all self-reporting. People can lie.

 

[Omori Boy]

Btw most of Brian's "youthfulness" is just the effects of microdosing estrogen to get softer looking skin. That's literally it, well that and the makeup.