Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

I'll be honest, Disney just killed the magic of SW. Star Wars really had that magical quality because the movies were based on Lucas' love of cinema and they were treated as an event. Disney not only botched the sequel trilogy, but the entire content strategy. The prequels may have been mid as movies, at least the first two had issues but man, the world that was set up. Huge and expansive and you could explore and experience it in a dozen games, comics etc. I still wish we had a Jedi Knight/Academy style game set in the prequel era.

I don't even understand what they want to do, not only saturating the content, but also having multiple eras running side by side. That's nuts. SW under Lucas was a lot more focused, most of the EU served to elevate the movies. I don't really know what to even say, even Marvel was handled in a more sensible manner. Sure, they were toying with the multiverse but they didn't had stories in like 4 eras hogging the attention.

I understand that they wanted to do quantity over quality, but even for merch having all these subbrands is just bad. In the end, Star Wars' main power was it's scarcity. That made the jokes about the Holidy Special work back then, you had the banger movies, and this werid thing. Now you have hoards of shows, so it's not standing out az an exception. Just as one more content.

So I'm conflicted, if anything I admire the old SW and fandom more, but I just can't be arsed about the new stuff anymore. I used to be more a Trekkie back in the day, pity, that is just a pile of blacked ash these days. At least Disney is trying with SW. lol

I think one thing can sum up the main difference between Lucas Wars and Disney Wars. George Lucas made an entire generation want to make movies, Disney made an entire generation into grifters on YouTube shitting on The Last Jedi.

If the Hutts were real IRL would they have a subforum or just a megathread here? Because they're all fucking fat, of course.
They are like Mexican Cartels on steroids, I really don't want to end up on a HoloLeak Rancor execution video much. They would have a subforum, they are a degenerate bunch and would just hate on each other with sock accounts, or even hire bounty hunters to shitpost about their rivals.
 
Isn't most Disney stuff in between Clone Wars and Civil War?
I don't follow any of this stuff very closely but that was my impression.
They tried the High Republic, the Rebellion but before the OT era, and the era between the OT and ST. They also tried to have contend for the OT, ST and PT eras. I really don't know if they were doing much with the Old Republic era.
 
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They tried the High Republic, the Rebellion but before the OT era, and the era between the OT and ST. They also tried to have contend for the OT, ST and PT eras. I really don't know if they were doing much with the Old Republic era.
I heard they're potentially planning old republic content which to that all I can say is good fucking luck. lmao.
With how highly regarded the writing of the original two KOTOR games is ANYTHING they put out is going to be shat on.

Also, while I'm at it nobody ever brings up how KOTOR II was a better deconstruction of Star Wars than TLJ could have ever hoped to be.
 
Also, while I'm at it nobody ever brings up how KOTOR II was a better deconstruction of Star Wars than TLJ could have ever hoped to be.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only guy in the world who doesn't like KOTOR II and thinks Kreia is just a rotten old bitch. KOTOR I was superior.
 
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only guy in the world who doesn't like KOTOR II and thinks Kreia is just a rotten old bitch. KOTOR I was superior.
Kreia is a stupid bitch but that's kind of the point. You actually understood one thing that many people also miss about Kotor II, Kreia IS a fucking retard. She's just really good at fooling people into thinking she isn't. But if you really pay attention to her viewpoint and everything she says you realize she's full of shit. In fact, that's the point.
 
Kreia is a stupid bitch but that's kind of the point. You actually understood one thing that many people also miss about Kotor II, Kreia IS a fucking retard. She's just really good at fooling people into thinking she isn't. But if you really pay attention to her viewpoint and everything she says you realize she's full of shit. In fact, that's the point.
Well I'm glad that I have company in thinking that then because 99% of the time when I hear people praise the game it's all about how Kreia is right.

Kreia basically read Nietsche and Heinlein once and totally missed the point of both.
 
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Well I'm glad that I have company in thinking that then because 99% of the time when I hear people praise the game it's all about how Kreia is right.

Kreia basically read Nietsche and Heinlein once and totally missed the point of both.
I always find it hilarious when people talk about how wise Kreia is without actually analyzing the things she says.
 
The only reasonable way I could understand anyone would find the last Jedi enjoyable is if you are specifically someone that literally has zero love, or attachment for anything about Star Wars before it. Hence the reason why some people are being sincere on liking it.
Exactly. As it's own thing it's pretty good. There's some alternative universe where Disney tells Rian to fuck off and he makes a much cheaper version of the same story for Annapurna and it goes down as one of the greatest non-franchise sci-fi movies of all time for being a gigantic middle finger to Disney and expanded universes and modern day sci-fi tropes.

It's like how all the snyderverse fans don't seem to be big fans of the DC mythos.

Honestly the idea of focusing on war profiteers and the smuggler being a scum bag and the chosen one not having a real reason to fight and the lone hermit being that way because he's a lolcow are all very neat ideas that are exactly what someone in the 2000s pop culture would come up with in some web comic or YouTube series.

But putting that in canon would be a retarded effort.
Cushing wanted to be Obi-Wan but conflicts he had when Episode IV was scheduled to be filmed made that impossible
He would have been a better obi-wan. Alec should have been tarkin. I like to imagine his contempt for star wars would have bled through. Cushing would have gladly been to every sci-fi convention till he died
 
Kreia is a stupid bitch but that's kind of the point. You actually understood one thing that many people also miss about Kotor II, Kreia IS a fucking retard. She's just really good at fooling people into thinking she isn't. But if you really pay attention to her viewpoint and everything she says you realize she's full of shit. In fact, that's the point.
Yeah, that is because she is the deconstroocter, starting as a reasonable critique but going off way in the wrong direction. Famously Chris Avellone hated Star Wars going into writing the thing, but over the course of plotting it out, instead realizing why he had liked originally it in the end. It's why regardless of light or dark, the exile rejects Kreia's viewpoint, and she is just a villain.
He would have been a better obi-wan. Alec should have been tarkin. I like to imagine his contempt for star wars would have bled through. Cushing would have gladly been to every sci-fi convention till he died
That's because Cushing was a workman, who enjoyed acting for it's own sake, and didn't really have pretensions as to the "height" of the works. I would say it is why that that whole cadre of actors is better remembered than the art actors of Britain.
 
Yeah, that is because she is the deconstroocter, starting as a reasonable critique but going off way in the wrong direction. Famously Chris Avellone hated Star Wars going into writing the thing, but over the course of plotting it out, instead realizing why he had liked originally it in the end. It's why regardless of light or dark, the exile rejects Kreia's viewpoint, and she is just a villain.
The fact that someone as pretentious as Chris Avellone who had genuine disdain for the series initially while writing the storyline still made something less retarded than Disney has written since buying the IP. I think that says something.
 
Kreia is a stupid bitch but that's kind of the point. You actually understood one thing that many people also miss about Kotor II, Kreia IS a fucking retard. She's just really good at fooling people into thinking she isn't. But if you really pay attention to her viewpoint and everything she says you realize she's full of shit. In fact, that's the point.
People are suckers for the "morally gray" stuff. Not to mention, writers think they are so smart and revolutionary when they blurr the lines between good and bad.
 
People are suckers for the "morally gray" stuff. Not to mention, writers think they are so smart and revolutionary when they blurr the lines between good and bad.
Writers missed the part that while "people are suckers for the "morally gray" stuff," the people still ultimately want a black and white conclusion to the morally gray story.
 
I will give a pass if you hate all the BTTF sequels, but people who like 2 and hate on 3 I don't understand. They are both goofy, just one is goofy with hoverboards and the other goofy with cowboys.

The BTTF3 lore is pretty great where Zemeckis didn't want to make a sequel, he wanted to make a western. But Fox wanted that sequel dosh so badly they let him make a BTTF western.

It's exactly the second point which is my issue with BTTF3. It's not bad or anything, I always enjoyed it but when I've revisited the films as an adult, on DVD and now Blu-ray. The pointlessness of the film and Zemeckis just using the opportunity to make a Western because there was no solid extension for the BTTF story was very apparent. It's tacked on to a really great film and it's really good sequel.

You've clearly read or seen the same interviews as me where he explains there was never any ideas for the original to be anything but standalone. The obvious idea for a sequel was to go back into the original and then he always wanted to make a western. It is probably a contributing factor to why Zemeckis was so against sequels because he knew the story and concept was completed in the first two films. Endless time travel films is not what makes the first two so great.
 
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