Disaster American Airlines Flight Collides With Blackhawk Helicopter Over DC - Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.

An American Airlines passenger plane crashed into the Potomac River after colliding midair with a black hawk helicopter over Ronald Reagan International Airport in Washington, D.C., the Federal Aviation Administration announced Wednesday (January 29) via CNN.

Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.



BREAKING: American Airlines Flight 5342 has collided with a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. The military aircraft, identified as PAT25, is believed to be a Priority Air Transport mission, typically designated for VIP transport operations.



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CaliforniaRaisin said:
Also, Call to Activism isn't entirely retarded in their take. Trump DID fire key people in aviation control and safety.


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Yeah Twitter has sure been up in arms about this except there's one teensy tiny catch which is those organizations have nothing to do with preventing aircraft accidents at all, in any way

TSA is effectively airport security, not flight control or safety. They're the Paul Blarts that make you take off your shoes while they x-ray your nuts, and are universally reviled as security theater

The "Aviation Security Advisory Committee" is what the name suggests- a small committee formed after the Lockerbie bombing which addresses potential security threats like terrorism, so those vaguely referring to them as an "air safety" organization are technically correct but not in the way being obviously implied:


If this was an act of terrorism it would be both an indictment these organizations and a sign they're needed to help prevent further incidents, but it's not so get the fuck outta here with this shit lmao
 
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polakrobak99 said:
get when you're coming from, but this often ends up with unexpectedly bad results. Turns out autists have profoundy inelastic ways of thinking and often can't improvise when the situation calls for it. They also have very hard time communicating and can be impulsive and overeager. In my country outing yourself as a railfan is basically a 100% sure way to stop yourself from getting hired by anything related to railway, nobody likes to work with spergs.
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Autists also don’t handle stress well and tend to meltdown, or shutdown, under pressure which instantly rules out being a competent ATC.

I’ve known two ATC guys, both were sort of assholes, but also highly social and they do d enjoying drinking (during off hours) with coworkers and friends. Not autistic types at all.
 
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CaliforniaRaisin said:
Wholeheartedly agree. Too few people meet the general hiring requirements though. That's been a problem for years. Simply making this declaration doesn't solve shit. DEI wasn't the solution either.
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ATC is brutal. High stress, high education requirements, high training requirements, government pay.

I looked at doing it briefly, and I think even then I was already too old(31 or younger to apply) but it really doesn't have a lot of upside. Especially compared to being an Instagram Influencer.
 
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(‿ˠ‿) ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ) said:
Yeah Twitter has sure been up in arms about this except there's one teensy tiny catch which is those organizations have nothing to do with preventing aircraft accidents at all, in any way

TSA is effectively airport security, not flight control or safety. They're the Paul Blarts that make you take off your shoes while they x-ray your nuts, and are universally reviled as security theater

The "Aviation Security Advisory Committee" is what the name suggests- a small committee formed after the Lockerbie bombing which addresses potential security threats like terrorism, so those vaguely referring to them as an "air safety" organization are technically correct but not in the way being obviously implied:


If this was an act of terrorism it would be both an indictment these organizations and a sign they're needed to help prevent further incidents, but it's not so get the fuck outta here with this shit lmao
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I mean there is very clearly a DEI issue in ATC in the past 5 years. The public has been documenting it with the almost weekly near misses, runway incursions and close call ATC errors. Including 2 instances where ATC very nearly landed 2 planes on top of each other. Only prevented by good pilots and clear visibility.

Bit none of that applied here. This ATC seems clear and competent. He had a good mental picture of where everybody was. Communications were proper. He was following the established procedures (however stupid those might be regarding helicopters crossing the flightpath)

I don't believe DEI or Troonery had anything to do with the helicopter?

The CRJ was where it was supposed to be doing what it was supposed to. Chances are the pilots and passenger never saw or knew what was about to happen. They would have been completely blind to it. The CRJ was in a left bank with the pilots eyeballs focused on finding and maintaining visual contact with the short 33 runway. They were following the proper procedure and doing it perfectly. Now questions do need to be asked about the wisdom of those procedures and how that 33 runway was operated. But that has nothing to do with the pilots.

This is going to come down to a series of relatively minor sketchy procedures and compromises built around Ronald Reagan airport, coming together at just the wrong moment. Requiring pilots to make correct visual identification of seemingly random lights in a deeply cluttered visual environment. Every time. And this time it went wrong.

There are a huge number of questionable airports around the world. Ones that were built during or before WW2. That long ago exceeded their ability to safely grow with the aviation industry. But are kept in operation because of how convenient they are for the public. New Yorks LaGuardia for example. Chicago Midway was the textbook. That South Korean airport that just ate a 737. And hundreds of others. Ronald Reagan is one of the worst for this.
 
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Breadbassket said:
@VP: "We want to hire the best people because we want the best people at air traffic control, and we want to make sure we have enough people at air traffic control who are actually competent to do the job."

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Yeah and if wishes were fishes my friend. Just announcing you want competent people doesn’t provide them, especially with the current level of brainrot going on. There are shortages of highly skilled people everywhere, and just cutting some programs and confirming two genders won’t change it.
 
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polakrobak99 said:
The collision occured at 400ft while helicopters on that path are supposed to stay at or below 200ft. So it's definitely a factor. Controller didn't correct them, possibly afraid of pissing off the army?
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The controller couldn't tell that the helicopter was looking at the wrong plane. If the pilots said "we don't see the CRJ" then ATC would have coached them away from danger. Instead, they correctly instructed the helicopter to go behind the incoming plane. I'm not sure if the helicopter has a CVR, but I will be very interested in the words exchanged leading up to the collision. It could be like crashes where pilots who thought they were flying at 11000 feet above the ground were really flying at 1000 because their eyes didn't catch the true position of the instrument dials.
 
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NORWOOD - The Skating Club of Boston lost two coaches, two young skaters and their mothers in the deadly crash of American Airlines Flight 5342 in Washington, D.C., an official with the club confirmed Thursday.

Club CEO Doug Zeghibe identified the skaters as 16-year-old Spencer Lane and 13-year-old Jinna Han. Lane's mother Christine Lane and Han's mother Jin Han were also on the plane. The coaches were Vadim Naumov and Evgenia Shishkova.

"Six is a horrific number for us. But we're fortunate and grateful it wasn't more than six. This will have long, reaching impacts for our skating community," Zeghibe told reporters at a news conference at the club's headquarters in Norwood, Massachusetts.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/skating-club-of-boston-potomac-plane-crash-victims/ (https://archive.ph/T3waU)
 
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RodgerDodger said:
The CRJ was where it was supposed to be doing what it was supposed to. Chances are the pilots and passenger never saw or knew what was about to happen. They would have been completely blind to it. The CRJ was in a left bank with the pilots eyeballs focused on finding and maintaining visual contact with the short 33 runway. They were following the proper procedure and doing it perfectly. Now questions do need to be asked about the wisdom of those procedures and how that 33 runway was operated. But that has nothing to do with the pilots.
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From those radar captures, what I get happened was the helicopter pilot saw the 3130 flight directly in front of him and thought it was the CRJ
 
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Temu Glock Switch said:
The controller couldn't tell that the helicopter was looking at the wrong plane. If the pilots said "we don't see the CRJ" then ATC would have coached them away from danger. Instead, they correctly instructed the helicopter to go behind the incoming plane. I'm not sure if the helicopter has a CVR, but I will be very interested in the words exchanged leading up to the collision. It could be like crashes where pilots who thought they were flying at 11000 feet above the ground were really flying at 1000 because their eyes didn't catch the true position of the instrument dials.
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>helicopter was looking at the wrong plane
I agree of course, but they were supposed to be at 200ft or below, those are the rules, and rules are king in aviation. But Army is probably too cool for rules.
 
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Wikipedo has provided a list of all of those who participated in the 2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships.
I wonder how many more of them were on the plane?

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