Canada is a failed state

All the Canadian news sources are quoting the exact same sources who continue to repeat that it happens on Saturday. There is zero quote or info from anyone that says March 1st instead of tomorrow but all the journos are running a headline saying March but the articles explicitly continue to say Trumps sources say it will happen on Saturday. I hope it does happen tomorrow just to make the media look fucking retarded for running confusing headlines when there is zero source for March.

"The sources, who asked not to be named because they are not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, said they did not have details on a final tariff rate, but noted Trump has consistently said that he plans to impose a 25 per cent tariff on imports from the two countries on Saturday"

A quote from the CBC article with the same headline. I don't know if journos know what month it is.

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Fuck Canadian journalism.
 
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Not Who You Think said:
I hear people saying that Trudeau has resigned (even from Canadians), but all I've seen is an intention to resign after he gets his pension. Has Trudeau actually resigned or has he just expressed his intention to resign later?
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I would think Justin locked in his pension years ago? He's been an MP much longer than Singh whose pension kicks in in a few weeks.

In any case Justin has declared he's not running at all next election, not just stepping down as PM. There isn't a formal VP type role in Parliament so he's basically just taking up space until the leadership race is concluded.
 
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Not Who You Think said:
So, there were whispers of Justin Trudeau resigning in mid-December 2024 and Canadian Conservatives planned to have a motion of no-confidence for January 7th 2025.

On January 6th 2025 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces that he will resign after the Liberal party selects its next leader.

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Parliament is immediately prorogued until March 24th 2025. Justin Trudeau is entitled to his pension sometime in March as well.

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I hear people saying that Trudeau has resigned (even from Canadians), but all I've seen is an intention to resign after he gets his pension. Has Trudeau actually resigned or has he just expressed his intention to resign later?

Also, I'm a bit unclear on Canadian politics, but from what I gather from the Community Feature thread it seems like Trudeau wanting his pension is a contributing factor to Canadian Parliament being prevented from properly addressing the tariff situation.
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Yes, Trudeau intends to resign upon the election of a new party leader, serving as Interm Leader himself until the election of that new leader. Technically speaking, that's:

c. If the Leader publicly announces an intention
to resign or if the Leader delivers to the
National President a written resignation or
a written request to call a Leadership Vote,
then the Leader ceases to be the Leader on
the earlier of the appointment of an Interim
Leader and when a new Leader is elected by
Registered Liberals.
d. Upon the occurrence of a Leadership Trigger
Event, or if the Leader publicly announces an
intention to resign or if the Leader delivers to
the National President a written resignation or
a written request to call a Leadership Vote, the
National President must call a meeting of the
National Board of Directors to be held within
27 days, and at that meeting th
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The only (realistic) way to avoid losing his (Interm) Leadership of the Party (and stay on as Prime Minister, too), is if Trump's tariffs are implemented before the election of the next Leader, giving him the excuse to invoke the War Emergency Measures Act, either as an International Emergency or as a Public Order Emergency.
international emergency means an emergency involv-
ing Canada and one or more other countries that arises
from acts of intimidation or coercion or the real or immi-
nent use of serious force or violence and that is so serious
as to be a national emergency. (état de crise internatio-
nale)

public order emergency means an emergency that aris-
es from threats to the security of Canada and that is so
serious as to be a national emergency; (état d’urgence)
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In that case, he would be dictator, without parliamentary accountability, until either the King fires him or the emergency is over. That would be hilarious if Sparkle Socks played Cheetoh Blumpf into handing him dictatorial powers in Canada. A "tariff war" with the USA would be grounds for War Measures indefinitely.

As for the pension stuff, you're thinking of Jaghmeet Singh, leader of the Democratic Party, who has been keeping Trudeau's minority Liberal government in power with a coalition that's not a coalition because it's called an agreement, or something.
 

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In that case, he would be dictator, without parliamentary accountability, until either the King fires him or the emergency is over. That would be hilarious if Sparkle Socks played Cheetoh Blumpf into handing him dictatorial powers in Canada. A "tariff war" with the USA would be grounds for War Measures indefinitely.
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Kind of hard to be a dictator when everyone wants you gone and the only country you share a land border with also wants you gone. You are getting it from all sides in that situation.
 
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My conspiracy brain says that stupid "rumor" was a last minute psyop to purposefully confuse Canadians. Perhaps it was considered and backed down once leaked but I kind of doubt it. All of the articles did not repeat the headline itself and used the same confusing phrasing saying "tariffs on Saturday" - without mention of the actual date of Saturday itself. That's not even proper news article structure and I personally saw three different news media groups with the exact same wording. I realize they copy and paste but not one of them decided to edit the copy to clearly state dates when the headline directly opposes past known dates, which should be written in full for archival purposes. Why was this garbage copy repeated so many times with next to no fact checking or editing? I realize the media is shit, I realize it's Canadian news but fuck that's honestly more embarrassing for us than anything else.

Now I keep reading comments like "but they just said March two hours ago, guess they still don't really know, call me when it happens"

Sounds like a great time to for a grand reveal of something even more fucked up since they easily proved how stupid Canadians can be by feeding them bullshit. I am MATI for this one, conspiracy or not.
 
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Kind of hard to be a dictator when everyone wants you gone and the only country you share a land border with also wants you gone. You are getting it from all sides in that situation.
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If were lucky, it brings the number of people in the prairie provinces who are willing to join America if it means less madness to at least 51%
 
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Kind of hard to be a dictator when everyone wants you gone and the only country you share a land border with also wants you gone. You are getting it from all sides in that situation.
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I'm just laying out the facts as recorded in the documents and interpolating thence the only realistic way that his intentions could change, not speculating. But for the sake of fun, let's imagine that's what happens: kind of easy to put the screws to anyone who wants you gone when your first order of business is to enact CERB-UBI and the guy across the border has your people dependent on it. As for that guy, who also wants you gone, "thanks, bro, that's exactly what I need to legally perpetuate this."

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Its horrifying how many people want to start a trade war with the US.
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My conspiracy brain says that stupid "rumor" was a last minute psyop to purposefully confuse Canadians. Perhaps it was considered and backed down once leaked but I kind of doubt it. All of the articles did not repeat the headline itself and used the same confusing phrasing saying "tariffs on Saturday" - without mention of the actual date of Saturday itself. That's not even proper news article structure and I personally saw three different news media groups with the exact same wording. I realize they copy and paste but not one of them decided to edit the copy to clearly state dates when the headline directly opposes past known dates, which should be written in full for archival purposes. Why was this garbage copy repeated so many times with next to no fact checking or editing? I realize the media is shit, I realize it's Canadian news but fuck that's honestly more embarrassing for us than anything else.

Now I keep reading comments like "but they just said March two hours ago, guess they still don't really know, call me when it happens"

Sounds like a great time to for a grand reveal of something even more fucked up since they easily proved how stupid Canadians can be by feeding them bullshit. I am MATI for this one, conspiracy or not.
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The 2nd Trump administration has been shockingly good at preventing leaks, and it's only getting tighter with him purging career bureaucrats. I suspect the March story was someone coping.
 
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