Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Male Idiot]

They're now trying to make "Woke Right" a thing.

It means Christian. Some Christian Conservatives are opposed to the gooner bait games coming out of Korea and being artificially propped up just because they piss off the left, and that's pissed off the gooners and the right leaning culture warriors who don't want the Christians getting uppity.

Which isn't a bad thing. Fundies tanked the right so hard we got 8 years of nigger king in Da Black House out of it.

The bible thumpers were a big reason why SJWs got their foothold in the other door. They exploited the raving lunatics to get in power. Fundies were the perfect strawman that showed up for you for free in 3D.

Fundies need to be suppressed or their autism brings the whole right down and we'll get SJW 2.0 again.

It doesn't take 50% more resources to add a female protagonist to a game. The core gameplay is exactly the same, and besides some unique dialogue options, or romance content it's really not that different. Animations (expensive) are copied from female NPCs, so the only real expenses are voice acting (Origins wasn't even voiced), and minor writing changes (cheap).

For Dragon age: Inquisition, they wanted to ONLY have a human protagonist, to save animating costs. After some dick sucking with the EA executives, they were grudging allowed to add Elf, Qunari, Dwarf, etc. EA just doesn't understand how to sell RPGs, or understand their appeal. The whole reason DA:2 was restricted to human, was because something like 80% of players went human.

I want to say female gamers are like 28% of the overall gaming demographic, maybe more depending on the genre, that's honestly quite a bit. Troons on the other hand, are maybe like 1-2% if that... It made zero sense to make content for them business wise.

Lets be honest, Femshep took off with the pretty model in ME3.
Men like to look at cute ass psycho girl. If it brings in the odd alt girl, that's just the bonus tip.
T+A plus it adds replayability. The problem wasn't fenale characters, but that they became woke and ugly. Sex sells, but ugly doesn't.

Maybe the real Dragon Age was the friends we made along the way?

The real Dragon Age was the bad dragon dildos purchased by its new fanfic fujo audience.

Bellular News did an indepth video on EA and Veilguard. It seems Veilguard not doing well is the least of EA's problems.

Wait they lost FIFA license? Oh boy, DA Fagguard is the least of EA's worries.

open and unceremoniously fired when

Giga based, as it should be. I'll buy the game the moment it comes out on the PC.

Artists tend to be high on the openness scale, highly neurotic, and may vary on how agreeable they are.

Conservatives on the other hand are disinclined towards curiosity and openness to experience, and not particularly neurotic, though they are highly conscientious.

So instead of Mr Boring who grills, they need to hire Chuds. Chuds are highly neurotic autists, perfect for game development.

You’d have to replace the entire apparatus top to bottom with nerdy White guys that make these games out of genuine passion/nerd spergery.

Again, so autistic Chuds. Make Gaming Chuddy Again.

Lovecraft literally has an entire genre (and an extremely popular one at that) named after him spanning an entire century and his entire political philosophy was literally "Niggers bad".

If you told me Locecraft was a real prophet, I would believe it. Guy was always on the money a century early.

 

[Brap God]

The real takeaway from the "conservatives just don't DO creative things" thing isn't "I guess that's just how things are, Conservatives aren't funny/artistic/musical/creative, that part of the human soul is just not expressed with evil nazi fascist types, you have to be a loving, caring, liberal to be creative." It's "Holy shit, the left must work VERY VERY HARD to suppress conservative creators."

Which is 100% true and one of the early realizations of that was part of my redpilling.

Half the country is conservative. Do you think half of Bioware was conservative? Half of EA? Once you realize that, the immediate followup thought is... Why not?

It has entirely to do with the fact that most prominent art has always been centered somewhere. In the past it might've been Vienna, Austria; today it's Niggerfornia, USA. And the type of art that's propagated in the most prominent cultural center tends to inspire similarly aligned individuals to pick up the mantle of an artist, it's like a self fulfilling prophecy which doesn't end until the next huge cultural shift. This is all to say that political ideology doesn't correlate with creativity or artistry, it's just happenstance. You exist in a time when progressive hippies happen to run the parade, simple as.

 

[Galeocerdo]

I do agree in general with you and with the New Vegas example, but I think people are either wilfully ignoring parts of BG3 or are way more progressive than the average KF user. I enjoyed my playthrough of BG3 up until the climax of Act 2 where one of the most obnoxious dykes in all of gaming takes a massive dump all over what had otherwise been the best part of the game. Dame Aylin is such rubbish that it should've tanked public perception of that game but it didn't. And before anyone tells me you can go the evil route and get rid of her beforehand or snake her afterwards, I'm not chill with her being such an autistic character in the first place. So, yes, sometimes game devs get a pass for lightly sprinkling in their progressivism in games, but fans also seem willing to eat up turd sandwiches as long as there's also something else on the menu.

That's the thing, I kind of feel if Taash was like this and you *can* get rid of them or just outright ignore their bullshit then people would be a lot less fucking caring about the whole ordeal. But from what I'm seeing it's kind of forced down your throat (along with every obnoxious bullshit Fan-fiction tier character in this game) in such an uncomfortable way it's not even funny, which ultimately leads to the game feeling like the writing team (Which're now fired, thank fuck) trauma dumping on the player in a very "Fuck you mom and dad" manner which is not only cringe-inducing, it's fucking horrendous to put into a game who's built it's legacy as being from a studio considered to once hold the gold standard for RPG/Dark RPG storylines and character writing.
I will say the problem with this stuff is it's started to infect everything around it, we're calling out genuine cases of DEI/Woke idealogy ruining a game, but also just labelling everything as that (Whether that be due to trolls fucking around, or people losing their mind over anything which isn't nuclear-family/christian friendly), makes me wonder if FalloutNV was to release today would people be hyperfixating on how ""Woke"" Veronica is. I guess my point in this is that I have come to hate the word/term and discussion around "Woke" culture since for every genuine case of it (Dustborn, this) there's a ton of other games which are just labelled the same because "Oh wow, female protag who isn't some anime girl with giant tits with retarded jiggle physics" and it is retarded to hear about, keep hearing my parents answer most questions I ask them in life with "Because of the woke/trans crowd" and it genuinely invokes an eyeroll.

 

[regalterry]

liberals tend to be more open to new experiences/idea

lol

lmao even

Artists tend to be high on the openness scale, highly neurotic, and may vary on how agreeable they are.

So, what you're saying is that we should use more AI, gotcha.

iberals are more willing to step outside moral/social boundaries

Yes, everyone is aware liberals want to groom children.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

I literally just said there were exceptions. Tolkien, Lewis, Lovecraft and Heinlein are exceptions that prove the rule.

Its not a fucking exception if litterally every single father of fiction is a reactionary conservative.

There's a reason I brought those authors up, they aren't just random exceptions, they are the forefathers of science, cosmic and fantasy fiction.

The "exception" in this case would be a liberal writer.

 

[SmugAutist]

I think the problem isn't creativity in the right wing but the lack of patronage for right wingers in the creative fields. Wealthy liberals will donate funds to the arts, you won't see conservatives doing the same. Matt Walsh is a perfect example. Hence, if you're a right winger, why would you expand on your creativity if nobody will become your patron? The furfag has a patron, the tranny pedo has a patron, the marxist has a patron. I always wanted to write fantasy books with a traditional outlook like Tolkien, but I know that nobody will take my book even if it was better than others because I'm a White right wing male. So I work on stuff that makes money instead.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

That has been quite democratized these days with self-publishing. You can find a lot of military sci-fi, old school "men will be men, women will be women" romances, and right-wing political books existing nicely and even outselling conventionally liberal or leftie works on Amazon.

I'd argue that perhaps left-wing creative works are more visible, due to patronage and support from the established retail infrastructure, but the other side of creativity is there. Just need to make a little more effort to track them down.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

It’s still funny tho, that one of the origins ending slides has Cullen become a serial killer after going crazy from the torture.

Talk about an unintentional prediction.

That could happen if you being a Mage ask Alistair or Anora for free the Mage's Circle in Ferelden.

Oh, I am not sure...

Spoiler: WHY ARE ELF FETISHIZERS SO WEIRD?

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Man, for me Solas was always Johnny Sins but in Dragon Age.

 

[regalterry]

That has been quite democratized these days with self-publishing. You can find a lot of military sci-fi, old school "men will be men, women will be women" romances, and right-wing political books existing nicely and even outselling conventionally liberal or leftie works on Amazon.

And self-publishing had to come into being for these works to gain an audience because liberal women in the editorial departments of major book publishers actively deny straight, White, conservative writers the chance to see their book picked up.

I can't stress enough how much damage liberal women have done.

 

[Brap God]

That's the thing, I kind of feel if Taash was like this and you *can* get rid of them or just outright ignore their bullshit then people would be a lot less fucking caring about the whole ordeal.

You can get rid of Dyke Supreme, but you can't stick it to her without it being circumstantial (going down a specific route for a companion) or after she's already shat on the end of Act 2. I don't care she can die, I care that a character central to a part of the story is aids.

 

[Mukhrani]

Nathaniel Hawthorne was in fact a liberal.

This kind of blows your whole argument out of the water. If Hawthorne, a man deeply obsessed with the flaws and ugly recesses of human nature, who was aligned with a politician that was rather gung-ho about hunting down escaped slaves, can be put in the same category as a modern-day affluent, utopian urbanite who screams about BLM then your category is completely meaningless.

Like take the issue of transgenderism-the very subject of sex and gender and whether or not they can be changed or self directed, is something fantasy and sci fi can and have been used as a vehicle for. Conservatives will reject this sort of question on its face. A willingness to inquire and a curiosity to imagine things outside of the current norm-is the opposite of how the conservative mind functions. Which tends to be interested in what is, “male and female are the way things are because God/nature and anything else is wrong”, whereas a liberal will ask “what if the human condition isn’t so staid and simple?”

This is dumb. Being open to 'new ideas' =/= creativity. Transgenderism is not a hallmark of creativity, it's a hallmark of derangement. Hence its absence from pretty much every historical great work of art. The greatest creative works explore the human condition, plumb the depths of human experience, and often explore themes that are as old as humanity itself. This requires you to be grounded, not floating off in the clouds in la-la land, and it requires you to be well-versed in your own culture's works and deep tradition. It favors conservatives, not liberals, hence why conservatives are historically overrepresented among great writers while liberals are the exception. Liberals make up the lion's share of contemporary creatives because of nepotism, gatekeeping, and influence circles, and they crank out piles and piles of absolute slop.

 

[IcedBacon]

Anything to the right of Mao, or Stalin is "conservative" now. Socialist, and globalist thought has become so widely championed by elites, that capitalism, individualism or any form of national identity is seen as dangerous for the peasants to know about. Those ideas need to be discredited, so we can control people for "the greater good"..

The Focault theory of: "the only basis of morality is individual discretion" is far too in vogue right now. At least the tide seems to be turning, I predict a renaissance for traditional, western story telling.

 

[Male Idiot]

It could be that US right is often a special type of lolbert extreme individualist.

They just don't network or help others out because they need to use their own bootstraps.

Plus platforms actively dislike them and work for the left.
Plus fundies like Meloniamac will switch sides with a full blown purity spiral at the slightest misstep, like Stellar Blade.

So if you are a right leaning author, you are given a sysiphusean task.

So you have no right wing Fink gibsmedat, nobody will host your work, and fundies will go Sharia on you like a twitter mob.

Your only ally in the Struggle is Gamers.
Palworld, Wukong, Stellar Blade, Space Marine 2 had the Mandate of Gamers and won.

Concord, Dustborn, Veilguard had the mandate of the government, the industry and the media, and they lost.

Take the power, gamers. Refuse woke slop.

HPL was the first Chud and he basically made his own genre. He is arguably more famous than his idol Poe.

 

[Gossip Avoider]

And self-publishing had to come into being for these works to gain an audience because liberal women in the editorial departments of major book publishers actively deny straight, White, conservative writers the chance to see their book picked up.

I can't stress enough how much damage liberal women have done.

Ironic that the left, despite being described as more open, are far better at gatekeeping.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

Female traditionally dominates fiction anyway, because romance and women's fiction typically outsell other genres. The issue here is the current mainstream publishers pushing low quality novels centered around identity and gender that no normies will read.

It's a moot point anyway, as mainstream publishers have been withering on the vine for almost a decade now. Their books are getting more and more expensive - most people can't be bothered when they can pick up a digital self-published novel for as low as $0.99.

 

[ZMOT]

Political alignments of left and right can be different across different countries in the world, and these studies can be flawed in that they inject 21st-century American-centric interpretations of these alignments into everything. Hell, what makes right and left change over time as well, as the core values of the 1990s and the 2000s can be very different even within a single alignment.

this. "conservatism" in the anglosphere these days is "if you don't want to kill all niggers and jews and put women back into the kitchen, you're not a real conservative", otherwise you're considered some from of liberal. this combined with the current environment reinforcing everything liberal. good luck trying to be a "conservative" author, so obviously every creative MUST be liberal, right?

creativity isn't political, if you want to tell story doesn't mean you have to be a retarded liberal. it's just more likely your story will be liberal dogshit, especially given the shit they produced the last 15 years with people saying literal ai-slop is an improvement.

Wait they lost FIFA license? Oh boy, DA Fagguard is the least of EA's worries.

they didn't lose it, EA just didn't renew it since it's just a label on a box. they buy the naming rights etc. from the clubs directly, so nothing has changed.

I guess my point in this is that I have come to hate the word/term and discussion around "Woke" culture since for every genuine case of it (Dustborn, this) there's a ton of other games which are just labelled the same because "Oh wow, female protag who isn't some anime girl with giant tits with retarded jiggle physics" and it is retarded to hear about, keep hearing my parents answer most questions I ask them in life with "Because of the woke/trans crowd" and it genuinely invokes an eyeroll.

overexposure leads to oversensitivity ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[regalterry]

are far better at gatekeeping

It's easy to be good at gatekeeping when the government and investment companies shield you from the legal and financial consequences of your actions. No need to be a good businessman when kosher daddy Fink can prop you up with everyone's pensions.

Leftists aren't particularly exceptional, creative or talented, they're just seen as the premier useful idiots for the globalist elites, since the ideology they champion creates far more fissures and friction in society than any other political movement you care to name.

 

[Feast Mode]

Overall this is a good video but I should preface that I don't have any attachment to Dragon Age and I'm viewing this as a tourist pretty much so I don't have any real input to balance his takes with to really be sure.
Throughout the video, though, there'll be these off the cuff moments where he will poison the well about arguments or complaints made against Veil guard kind of as a strawman and it almost gets to the point where he almost does the "Stunning and Brave" Schtick and a few minutes ago he was saying something about bigots and gay representation so watcher beware theres going to be random pozzed moments that fly at you fast.

 

[Anon88]

To piggyback off this, I think Bioware, while the pioneer for cRPGs in many ways, has a remarkable inability to write a main story that doesn't involve the world ending in some way.

KOTOR: Sith Empire
Mass Effect: Reapers
Mass Effect 2: Collectors (Reapers in all but name)
Mass Effect 3: Reapers
Dragon Age: Origins: The Blight
Dragon Age 2: Mages vs Templar (The only odd one out tbh)
Dragon Age: Inquisition: The Blight (again)

I dont know enough about Anthem or Trannyguard but it probably involves the world ending again in some way.

It really hamstrings the story potential of anything they touch.

It goes way deeper then just the world ending. I love Bioware and think their writing is pretty good as a whole but their stories usually have a bunch of similar plot points.

 

[The Doom Slayer]

https://x.com/LegacyKillaHD/status/1885177044343902259

“Male slop”

Yeah, ME4 if it comes out is going to fail and fail badly. I said earlier the pandering to the Tumblr crowd was the doom of BioWare and I think this shows exactly why.

Kek, these people are brainrotted to the core. The fuck does male slop even mean? Shep was pretty much just your standard action hero, it's not like he was a raging misogynist or something. And, you know, Femshep exists.

Is Master Chief male slop? Doomguy? Solid Snake?

>Andromeda
Ryder was some spineless cuck who had zero memorable moments while Shep is still quoted and memed to this day.