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Tedros is starting to go through withdrawals without mo money fo dem programs.

WHO chief asks countries to push Washington to reconsider its withdrawal
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Maria Cheng and Jamey Keaten
2025-02-03 07:36:04GMT
GENEVA (AP) — The World Health Organization chief asked global leaders to lean on Washington to reverse President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw from the U.N. health agency, insisting in a closed-door meeting with diplomats last week that the U.S. will miss out on critical information about global disease outbreaks.

But countries also pressed WHO at a key budget meeting last Wednesday about how it might cope with the exit of its biggest donor, according to internal meeting materials obtained by The Associated Press. A German envoy, Bjorn Kummel, warned: “The roof is on fire, and we need to stop the fire as soon as possible.”

For 2024-2025, the U.S. is WHO’s biggest donor by far, putting in an estimated $988 million, roughly 14% of WHO’s $6.9 billion budget.

A budget document presented at the meeting showed WHO’s health emergencies program has a “heavy reliance” on American cash. “Readiness functions” in WHO’s Europe office were more than 80% reliant on the $154 million the U.S. contributes.

The document said U.S. funding “provides the backbone of many of WHO’s large-scale emergency operations,” covering up to 40%. It said responses in the Middle East, Ukraine and Sudan were at risk, in addition to hundreds of millions of dollars lost by polio-eradication and HIV programs.

The U.S. also covers 95% of WHO’s tuberculosis work in Europe and more than 60% of TB efforts in Africa, the Western Pacific and at the agency headquarters in Geneva, the document said.

At a separate private meeting on the impact of the U.S. exit last Wednesday, WHO finance director George Kyriacou said if the agency spends at its current rate, the organization would “be very much in a hand-to-mouth type situation when it comes to our cash flows” in the first half of 2026. He added the current rate of spending is “something we’re not going to do,” according to a recording obtained by the AP.

Since Trump’s executive order, WHO has attempted to withdraw funds from the U.S. for past expenses, Kyriacou said, but most of those “have not been accepted.”

The U.S. also has yet to settle its owed contributions to WHO for 2024, pushing the agency into a deficit, he added.

WHO’s executive board, made up of 34 high-level envoys including many national health ministers, was expected to discuss budget matters during its latest session, which opens Monday and is set to run through Feb. 11.

WHO’s leader wants to bring back the US
Last week, officials at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were instructed to stop working with WHO immediately.

WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told the attendees at the budget meeting that the agency is still providing U.S. scientists with some data — though it isn’t known what data.

“We continue to give them information because they need it,” Tedros said, urging member countries to contact U.S officials. “We would appreciate it if you continue to push and reach out to them to reconsider.”

Among other health crises, WHO is currently working to stop outbreaks of Marburg virus in Tanzania, Ebola in Uganda and mpox in Congo.

Tedros rebutted Trump’s three stated reasons for leaving the agency in the executive order signed on Jan. 20 — Trump’s first day back in office. In the order, the president said WHO mishandled the COVID-19 pandemic that began in China, failed to adopt needed reforms and that U.S. membership required “unfairly onerous payments.”

Tedros said WHO alerted the world in January 2020 about the potential dangers of the coronavirus and has made dozens of reforms since — including efforts to expand its donor base.

Tedros also said he believed the U.S. departure was “not about the money” but more about the “void” in outbreak details and other critical health information that the United States would face in the future.

“Bringing the U.S. back will be very important,” he told meeting attendees. “And on that, I think all of you can play a role.”

Kummel, a senior advisor on global health in Germany’s health ministry, described the U.S. exit as “the most extensive crisis WHO has been facing in the past decades.”

He also asked: “What concrete functions of WHO will collapse if the funding of the U.S. is not existent anymore?”

Officials from countries including Bangladesh and France asked what specific plans WHO had to deal with the loss of U.S. funding and wondered which health programs would be cut as a result.

The AP obtained a document shared among some WHO senior managers that laid out several options, including a proposal that each major department or office might be slashed in half by the end of the year.

WHO declined to comment on whether Tedros had privately asked countries to lobby on the agency’s behalf.

Experts say US benefits from WHO
Some experts said that while the departure of the U.S. was a major crisis, it might also serve as an opportunity to reshape global public health.

Less than 1% of the U.S. health budget goes to WHO, said Matthew Kavanagh, director of Georgetown University’s Center for Global Health Policy and Politics. In exchange, the U.S. gets “a wide variety of benefits to Americans that matter quite a bit,” he said. That includes intelligence about disease epidemics globally and virus samples for vaccines.

Kavanagh also said the WHO is “massively underfunded,” describing the contributions from rich countries as “peanuts.”

WHO emergencies chief Dr. Michael Ryan said at the meeting on the impact of the U.S. withdrawal last week that losing the U.S. was “terrible,” but member states had “tremendous capacity to fill in those gaps.”

Ryan told WHO member countries: “The U.S. is leaving a community of nations. It’s essentially breaking up with you.”

Kavanagh doubted the U.S. would be able to match WHO’s ability to gather details about emerging health threats globally, and said its exit from the agency “will absolutely lead to worse health outcomes for Americans.”

“How much worse remains to be seen,” Kavanagh said.
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Cheng reported from Toronto.
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The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
 
The talking point I keep seeing lately is that cutting USAID is bad because it reduces our "soft power", or in other words, going mask off and admitting they want tax money to be used to propagandize and subvert foreign citizenry in neutral or allied countries for vague political goals. The Democrats really are the party of Jews and glowies
 
The talking point I keep seeing lately is that cutting USAID is bad because it reduces our "soft power", or in other words, going mask off and admitting they want tax money to be used to propagandize and subvert foreign citizenry in neutral or allied countries for vague political goals. The Democrats really are the party of Jews and glowies
Yes that's going to be what people argue for all foreign money laundering. "Oh no it's not about the stated intent, it's about us having influence there!" So greasing palms of warlords or bureaucrats and subverting foreign countries so [other country] doesn't. Cold War mindset.
 
(((Whites)))
He's not Jewish or of Jewish descent.

The talking point I keep seeing lately is that cutting USAID is bad because it reduces our "soft power", or in other words, going mask off and admitting they want tax money to be used to propagandize and subvert foreign citizenry in neutral or allied countries for vague political goals. The Democrats really are the party of Jews and glowies
Soft power is great, but when has it benefited us lately every third world country already works with China?
 
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Soft power is great, but when has it benefited us lately every third world country already works with China?
Yeah it's not entirely baseless but what's ended up happening is the "soft power" at this point is simply money laundering for our own people and the recipient while the recipient is also courting others. South Africa is a great example. Ukraine is another, Biden insisted they stop investigating corruption or they won't get aid which he boasted about publicly and his family directly benefited from.
 
The talking point I keep seeing lately is that cutting USAID is bad because it reduces our "soft power", or in other words, going mask off and admitting they want tax money to be used to propagandize and subvert foreign citizenry in neutral or allied countries for vague political goals. The Democrats really are the party of Jews and glowies
Depending on which side of International Relations a political scientist falls on there is no such thing as "soft power".

Personally I'm a Realist so I fall in line with the thought that state actors only respond to military power with economics only being used as an indication of the ability to bolster military power.

"Soft power" was a term invented in the 80s by a bunch of communist fuck heads who didn't want to admit that communism is a prolonged state of failure. So they made up a bunch of bullshit to explain those failures rather than face the facts that communism is just a monarchy with extra steps that will invariably result in one of two outcomes: total collapse or dictatorship.
 
Here is an hypothetical: You wake up to the secret service surrounding you, they take you to the Pentagon, Trump is there, Elon is there. You're not being executed for your poasting, in fact they love the poasting, but now you have to be nice to these two because they are paying you.
The Problem: "Governor trudeau and his party are going to war with my tariffs, they are booing our National Anthem, very, very disrespectful.
We are pulling a revolution, a rainbow revolution, we are doing some gayops a little bit of gayops..."
You are now USAIDS, you have the full power of all social media, facebook, twitter, etc.
You have an infinite budget to fund gayops in Canada.
What will you do to subvert and turn the Canadian people against the government and what specific Canadian states would you pick to condition for a future 'unincorporated commonwealth territory'?
 
It's so over for Drumpf!
I am suspicious of those opposing deportation of persons illegally in the United States. Why shouldn't those in the US illegally be deported? Another question is what is the solution?

I have seen many of these points floating around:
  • Those illegally here are fleeing poverty.
  • Those illegally here are often destitute
  • Once here, they tend to work low skill jobs and low pay jobs.
  • Those illegally here may be able to pay some taxes via an ITN (IRS number).
  • Those illegally here cannot receive benefits.
  • Legal immigration is too difficult and needs to be streamline.

    But if we accept these points, the only reasonable position is to keep these people as a permeant underclass.
    • As stated, they are poor and lacking in education while working low wage jobs.
    • Low wage jobs either don't pay taxes or pay a miniscule amount in taxes.
    • If becoming a citizen is easy and fast than these illegal aliens will qualify for benefits.
    • Since they are low income and destitute they will need massive assistance if they gain citizenship.
      • Thus , any economic benefit they can provide will be lost.
        • Businesses may replace the newly legal workforce with illegals.
        • More illegal aliens will come over putting even more strain on the system.
 
So it seems like "muh egg prices" is the messaging the DNC has settled on huh?

I guess that's a marginal improvement over "think of the HIV+ underage transgender lesbian prostitutes in Uganda who won't get their dildos due to Drumpf!"
How long will they keep it up before the egg prices goes down? They'll credit biden or kamala for it.
I forgot Richard Spencer exists. Last i saw him, he was suckered punched.
 
Still waiting for one last person to send images but if I don't get it by tomorrow I'll just post my retrospective, but this was a big deal to a lot of people I talked with at the inauguration. Not Oct 7, but lot of people were either OG fans or voted for Biden in 2020 but got red-pilled by trannies trooning out kids and the rest of the scales fell from their eyes.

I'd like to personally thank PhilosophyTube for redpilling me, something about seeing that massive troon fridge on the screen made me start to hate breadtube, especially since at that point all they would ever talk about were troons and JK Rowling(which was more troons by extension)

Maybe I'd still be doubly retarded if they didn't shove so many bricks in dresses at me, I could stomach maybe a few but it was a constant barrage of troon topics. The appeals to aesthetics that breadtrooners do don't work when they look so off-putting. They could maybe even draw some valid criticism from that idea if they could look past the slurs, but I have little faith such reflection is possible for the troons. Even in trying to look good they bring about a good deal of disgust and leads to red-pilling.
 
Sounds like Europe needs to start making themselves reliable
I unironically think that, as a European, we need to get our shit together and stop acting like we're hapless infants. Trump's a blessing exactly for that: hopefully he'll force the retards in charge here to either correct course or lose their power in favour of someone saner.
 
Any give a qrd on what Trump getting elected in 2016 felt like? (I wasn't that interested in politics back then) I heard the main difference between then and now is that it legit felt out of the blue. Like, no one expected Michigan and Pennsylvania to flip.
It was the first time in my adult life that the possibility occurred to me that the future could be good.
 
Here is an hypothetical: You wake up to the secret service surrounding you, they take you to the Pentagon, Trump is there, Elon is there. You're not being executed for your poasting, in fact they love the poasting, but now you have to be nice to these two because they are paying you.
The Problem: "Governor trudeau and his party are going to war with my tariffs, they are booing our National Anthem, very, very disrespectful.
We are pulling a revolution, a rainbow revolution, we are doing some gayops a little bit of gayops..."
You are now USAIDS, you have the full power of all social media, facebook, twitter, etc.
You have an infinite budget to fund gayops in Canada.
What will you do to subvert and turn the Canadian people against the government and what specific Canadian states would you pick to condition for a future 'unincorporated commonwealth territory'?
Holy shit, glowies are now asking us for advice!
 
The Democrats Show Why They Lost
The Atlantic (archive.ph)
By Jonathan Chait
2025-02-03 00:35:29GMT
Speaking to the Democratic National Committee, which met to select its new leadership this weekend, the outgoing chair, Jaime Harrison, attempted to explain a point about its rules concerning gender balance for its vice-chair race. “The rules specify that when we have a gender-nonbinary candidate or officer, the nonbinary individual is counted as neither male nor female, and the remaining six officers must be gender balanced,” Harrison announced.

As the explanation became increasingly intricate, Harrison’s elucidation grew more labored. “To ensure our process accounts for male, female, and nonbinary candidates, we conferred with our [Rules and Bylaws Committee] co-chair, our LGBT Caucus co-chair, and others to ensure that the process is inclusive and meets the gender-balance requirements in our rules,” he added. “To do this, our process will be slightly different than the one outlined to you earlier this week, but I hope you will see that in practice, it is simple and transparent.”

The Democratic Party, at least in theory, is an organization dedicated to winning political power through elected office, though this might seem hard to believe on the evidence provided by its official proceedings. The DNC’s meetings included a land acknowledgement, multiple shrieking interruptions by angry protesters, and a general affirmation that its strategy had been sound, except perhaps insufficiently committed to legalistic race and gender essentialism.

The good news about the DNC, for those who prefer that the country have a politically viable alternative to the authoritarian personality cult currently running it, is that the official Democratic Party has little power. The DNC does not set the party’s message, nor will it determine its next presidential candidate.

The bad news is that the official party’s influence is so meager, in part because the party has largely ceded it to a collection of progressive activist groups. These groups, funded by liberal donors, seldom have a broad base of support among the voting public but have managed to amass enormous influence over the party. They’ve done so by monopolizing the brand value of various causes. Climate groups, for instance, define what good climate policy means, and then they judge candidates based on how well they affirm those positions. The same holds true for abortion, racial justice, and other issues that many Democrats deem important. The groups are particularly effective at spreading their ideas through the media, especially (but not exclusively) through the work of progressive-leaning journalists, who lean on both the expertise that groups provide and their ability to drive news (by, say, scolding Democratic candidates who fall short of their standards of ideological purity).

The 2020 Democratic primary represented the apogee, to that point, of the groups’ influence. The gigantic field of candidates slogged through a series of debates and interviews in which journalists asked if they would affirm various positions demanded by the groups. That is how large chunks of the field wound up endorsing decriminalization of the border, reparations, and other causes that are hardly consensus positions within the Democratic Party, let alone the broader electorate. It is also how Kamala Harris came out for providing free gender-reassignment surgery to prisoners and migrant detainees, which became the basis of the Trump campaign’s most effective ad against her.

The ongoing influence of the groups can be seen in a new New York Times poll. Asked to list their top priorities, respondents cited, in order, the economy, health care, immigration, taxes, and crime. Asked what they believed Democrats’ priorities were, they cited abortion, LGBTQ policy, climate change, the state of democracy, and health care. That perception of the party’s priorities may not be an accurate description of the views of its elected officials. But it is absolutely an accurate description of the priorities of progressive activist groups.

The poll is a testament to how well the groups have done their job. They have set out to raise public awareness of a series of issues their donors care about, and to commit the party to prioritizing them, and they have done so. Democrats in public office may be mostly engaged in fighting about the economy, health care, and other issues, but they lack the communications apparatus controlled by the groups, which have blotted out their poll-tested messages in favor of donor-approved ones.

Over the past year or so, and especially since Harris’s defeat, some centrist commentators have begun to question the groups’ influence. But the DNC meetings offered no evidence that their thinking has gone out of style.

If Democrats learned from Harris’s campaign that they should try to stop holding events that are easily repurposed as viral Republican attack ads, they showed no sign of it over the weekend. When activists repeatedly interrupted speakers, they were met supportively. “Rather than rebuff the interruptions,” observed the Wall Street Journal reporter Molly Ball, “those onstage largely celebrated them, straining to assure the activists they were actually on the same side and eagerly giving them the platform they broke the rules to demand.”

Neither Harrison nor his successor, Ken Martin, has questioned Joe Biden’s decision to run for a second term, nor any of the messaging or policy that contributed to his dismal approval ratings. When MSNBC’s Jonathan Capehart asked one panel of candidates if they believed racism and misogyny contributed to Harris’s defeat, every panelist agreed. “That’s good, you all pass,” he said. (Note that this diagnosis of the election result has no actionable takeaway other than that perhaps the party should refrain from nominating a woman or person of color.)

The most sadly revealing outcome of the meeting may be the elevation of David Hogg as vice chair. Hogg, a 24-year-old activist, rose to prominence as a survivor of the Parkland, Florida, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, and then quickly assimilated the full range of progressive stances—defund ICE, abolish the police, etc.—into his heavily online persona. And despite the horrific experience he endured, he does not seem to be notably wise beyond his years. After the far-right activist and pillow peddler Mike Lindell gained prominence as an election denier, I joked online that progressives needed their own pillow company. (The joke, of course, is that there is obviously no need for your pillow company to endorse your political views.) The next month, Hogg went ahead and turned this joke into reality, founding Good Pillow before resigning a few months later.

Hogg’s takeaway from the 2024 presidential race is that Democrats lost because they failed to rally the youth vote with a rousing message on guns, climate, and other issues favored by progressive activists. Polling, in fact, showed that young voters had similar issue priorities as older voters, but Hogg’s elevation was a tribute to the wish masquerading as calculation that Democrats can gain vote share without compromising with the electorate.

Some Democrats observed the events of the weekend with wry fatalism. At one point, a protester in a Sunrise Movement T-shirt interrupted by shouting, “I am terrified!”

She was not alone.
 
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