Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 66 13.8%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 11.7%
  • This Year

    Votes: 74 15.5%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 164 34.3%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 118 24.7%

  • Total voters
    478
Russell once again delivers premium content.

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Well, Rusty, Hardin has tried to get dates set up so you can sit down and speak with him, but you bad-mouth and stonewall him at every turn. This case has been dragged out for four years because of your unwillingness to follow proper procedure (and the judge, but that's another story.) Null and Hardin are getting sick of it, and your pro se tard shield only goes so far. That's why they want you fined.

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Need I remind you about what happened when you listed your family as witnesses without telling them? They got a surprise call from Mr. Hardin and subsequently got pissed at you, and then you engaged in witness tampering to keep Mr. Hardin from deposing them(which is a federal crime, by the way.) Null and Hardin couldn't find Mr. Steve Taylor, so Null asked his users to look for him. As things turned out, your star witness was fucking dead.

Oh, and get your idioms right.

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That's true, it does. But:
  • They must disclose the opinions they will express and the reasons why.
  • They must disclose facts or data that will support their opinion.
  • They must disclose any exhibits that will support their opinion.
This is usually done by speaking to them before listing them, to ensure their opinions will support your case, and making sure they actually want to be dragged into your retarded crusade.

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Blatantly saying "Your Honor, I lost the evidence" is a heck of a strategy, Russ.

So is submitting "Trust me, bro" for evidence.

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WHICH WITNESSES ARE FAKE, RUSSELL? WHICH ONES?

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I'd love to tell you why this argument is stupid, but you're not paying me to act as your legal counsel. I do accept payment in cryptocurrency, if you're interested.

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Again, I'd love to tell you why this is retarded, but you're not paying me. I will say the reason they're bringing Steve up now is because your other two witnesses have proven unwilling to testify on your behalf, so Null asked his users to find Steve so Hardin can depose him. As it turns out, Steve is dead. Since Hardin is a lawyer and not a medium, it needs to be noted for the record that you're incapable of doing your own homework and have to steal Null's.

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YOU ABSOLUTE MONGOLOID. Steve was dead! Even you didn't know about that until you read it here. Null and Hardin assumed you were acting in good faith, that you spoke with Steve and got his consent to testify on your behalf. Of course Hardin would get mad.

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First, with regards to your witness, they probably just didn't want to get involved in your retarded crusade.

Second, with regards to Kiwi Farms, a website: are you sure you want to make defamatory statements about us? Especially if you anger Null enough for him to decide sending a message is worth the cost?

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You are making a lot of defamatory statements about the defendants, and your pro se shield can only go so far. Arguably, Null could have you labeled vexatious because of it.

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From the communications we've seen, Hardin has been polite and professional, even as you constantly curse at him. Further, with two of your witnesses being unwilling to testify and the third witness being fucking dead, neither Hardin nor Null can or should take your explanations at face value. At least, not without external evidence supporting it.

(Continued in part 2)
 

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The brass neck of listing a witness you haven't been on speaking terms with for 3 years without notifying them, who you eventually discover is dead, only to pivot around and whine that the defendants aren't "litigating" your case quickly enough for you is actually astounding.

His relationships with his family are similarly successful, so there was also a pretty decent probability of this happening with his father if he is actually at death's door.

He's a fucking imbecile. :lossmanjack:
 
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WHICH WITNESSES ARE FAKE, RUSSELL? WHICH ONES?
>At the time he wrote the motion, he though they were all still alive and real people.

You ever had that one kid in class who was on the spectrum and he knew the teacher gave him leeway to do whatever he wanted to fuck with the other kids? That kid is Russhole and the teacher is the 10th Circuit Appellate Court.
 
Cripps v. Life
I simply cannot look at the name of this case without laughing, niggaaaa. (Something tells me Cripps lose).
but you badrat-mouth and stonewall him at every turn.
FTFY
I agree. I really don't think he's up to date on or even knows about this thread.
I only kind of agree. I think Russ knows about the this thread, but his eggshell skull can’t handle it so it doesn’t come here often. Might be a little up to date but it’s hard to say. He’s quite the bald pipsqueak, after all,
 
I think Russ knows about the this thread, but his eggshell skull can’t handle it so it doesn’t come here often.
Definitely a possibility.

Also remember it took Russell over a week to find out about the legal fundraiser for Null. He only found out about it after a troll sent him an email with the details, prompting him to quickly file a motion in the docket regarding it. If he kept tabs on this thread he would have known about the fundraiser much earlier.
 
Plightsperging Part 2, let's a-go

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Hardin and Null don't ask you these things because, as established:
  1. You are an unreliable narrator
  2. You don't do your own research
  3. You are mentally retarded
In other words, you are a lazy, moronic liar, so Kiwi Farms, a website, has to do research to substantiate anything you say.

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There is, but I'll let the judge explain it to you. Or you can give me crypto and I'll happily explain why you're retarded for saying this.

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No it doesn't. If this were truly about copyright, you'd have gone to Google first. Your evidence is circumstantial at best. Your conduct is unbecoming of a legal professional.

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The only thing close to a win you got in this case. You're going to be milking that for all it's worth, aren't you?

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Null is under no obligation to give you his address or tell you his reasoning. As an aside, he fled the States because his website hosts proof of corruption at a transgender charity, and his refusal to remove it resulted in credible threats to his life.

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Actually, Russ, the burden is on you to ensure your witnesses are informed and prepared to testify on your behalf.

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So, in summary:
  • You couldn't be bothered to check that your witnesses were willing and able to testify on your behalf.
  • You continually referenced them in your filings as though they could.
  • They were shocked and angry when Hardin attempted to depose them because you couldn't be bothered to inform them.
  • You attempted to tamper with the witnesses by encouraging them to not respond to Hardin.
  • One of your witnesses was dead when you listed him, and neither you nor Hardin knew about it for nearly a full year (see my first point).
  • In fact, you couldn't be bothered to check until Kiwi Farms, a website, dug up his obituary.
  • When Hardin points all of this out, your immediate reaction is to file a rambling statement that can be summed up with the phrase, "Nuh-uh!"
No, Russell, you are acting in bad faith. Your every action has been to drag this case out and bleed Null dry, and we have the proof. Yes, we are allowed to dredge up your old social media posts as evidence. Your lawsuits represent a disturbing pattern of behavior where you use the courts to force people to submit to you.

I hope Hardin bankrupts you with sanctions. I hope you get labeled vexatious. I hope you never get to see another whore for as long as you live.
 
This could be further from the truth.
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Again, this is starting to become extremely silly debating individual words and not the merits of the case... It’s honestly ridiculous that defendants are scrutinizing each and every word Plaintiff has written.
Yeah, why is everybody being so lawyerly all of a sudden?
Plaintiff can’t fault his witnesses because kiwi farms is indeed composed of a scary bunch of individuals.
Everyone in this thread confirmed for scary individuals.
Greer has indeed previously provided this Court with evidence that once proposed witnesses have witnessed the stalking coming from Kiwi Farms.
He accidentally capitalized "Kiwi Farms."
 
what's funny about this filing is that it replies more to the KF thread than it does Hardin's filing. So if you needed additional motivation to keep your mouth shut, here you go.
That’s right boys, keep your mouths shut. Nobody say anything like how bad you want to shit on Russtard’s keytar and wipe on his mustache.
 
I agree. I really don't think he's up to date on or even knows about this thread.

Well, just in case he is reading:

a.) You will never have sex with a woman you haven't paid for.
b.) You will never earn enough money to pay for sex more than once or twice a year
c.) Every woman you do have sex with will loathe herself for having stooped so low as to have sex with you.

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Wouldn't this have been one of the purposes of the multiple 'meet and confer' arrangements that Hardin tried so assiduously to arrange, while Russell just repeatedly blew him off?

Greer had the opportunity to provide his information to the defendents. He repeatedly blew them off, ignoring the rules of court procedure as he did so.

That shit all costs money. Now it's time to pay. Russell is about to learn how much the lawyer costs the person on the other side. Fucking around might be cheap. Finding out can be truly costly.
 
It's funny that Russ thinks that a bunch of shitposters who laugh at him are "scary".
I think it’s more amusing that the famous phone booking site took seven and a half months to find the deets on a dead guy.

Because nobody actually gave a shit about Greer’s witnesses until null put on the ask.
 
It's very unfortunate to find out your friend died via the site you are suing.

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I noticed in the email between Hardin & shitlips that he is threatening Hardin almost.

"If you don't file sanctions I won't"

How the hell does Hardin manage to remain so professional around this professional retard?

Why hasn't all of Russ' lies bit him in the ass yet?

He's beyond malicious and seems to be getting away with mocking the court.
 
All of this is on the same level of absurdity as the dead parrot sketch. The clerk has to have popped into a few different offices today and told people that they couldn't possibly believe what had happened in the Greer case this time. I haven't laughed this hard in a while.

If the magistrate judge might have been considering some degree of clemency towards Greer on the sanctions, I have a feeling that after reading this any sense of leniency has died, much like poor Mr. Taylor.

Also, fucking Russ trying to act tough with Hardin over sanctions with his I won't file mine, if you don't file yours horseshit. Does he legitimately think this will work or is he just that desperate? The "merits" of the case. My sides are starting to hurt.

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Also, fucking Russ trying to act tough with Hardin over sanctions with his I won't file mine, if you don't file yours horseshit. Does he legitimately think this will work or is he just that desperate? The "merits" of the case. My sides are starting to hurt.
This is unsolicited legal advice but I really have to say holy fucking shit Greer doesn’t realize it is the court threatening sanctions not Hardin.

(Hardin has mentioned case-ending sanctions on another matter; the big one of costs and fees was from the court as a way to “solve” the present matter it was looking at iirc)
 
I was pissed enough to go full paralegal mode. I went through every case Russ cited, to see how badly he's misrepresenting what it says or how it helps him.

...and 45 minutes later, I'm deleting the writeup draft. I'm not risking Null's wrath about helping Russ. TL;DR It looks like every one (other than the first) is a distortion, has inapplicable facts, or doesn't help Russ. The common thread of them is Russ pretending that the cases excuse "poorly formatted" pleadings, which he thinks is his only problem. But they absolutely do not apply to what Russ is doing.

I'm going to cover one cite because it's particularly egregious, and citing it actually hurts Russ's case.

Right after the cite to Cripps that I covered earlier:

Several other circuits follow this logic by not punishing pro se litigants for mistakes, misstatements or for not having “neatly parsed” allegations. Phillips v. Girdixh, 408 F. 3d 124 (2nd Cir. 2005)

The facts of the case are that a prisoner submitted 10 pages of single-spaced allegations against the prison he was in. (A pro se plaintiff after Greer's own heart.) Court rejected the complaint because it was "not sequentially paginated", and "his claims were not separated into numbered paragraphs."

So he "filed an amended complaint substantially identical to the initial one, except that the factual allegations were divided into eighteen numbered paragraphs, some spanning several pages." The court rejected that one for being too long and having multi-page paragraphs. So he refiled a complaint "consisting of ten pages of factual allegations separated into sixteen numbered paragraphs" and the Court threw him out, causing an appeal.

The Appeals court overturned the dismissal because the district court was being anal about paragraph breaks and page numbers. Nowhere does it address "mistakes" or misstatements.

Russ thinks his repeated refusal to follow the rules, a refusal the court has already ruled was bad enough for sanctions, is on par with missing page numbers. That is ridiculous, and citing this case as a standard shows the gulf between an innocent pro se mistake and the repeated refusals of Greer to even TRY complying with the Court's rules. There is no way to claim that a material misrepresentation about the availability of your named witnesses is the same thing as writing a multi-page paragraph.

By the way, here's the full sentence of that "neatly parsed" quote:

Although Phillips' allegations were not neatly parsed and included a great deal of irrelevant detail, that is not unusual from a pro se litigant.

Yeah, Judge, no kidding. No fucking kidding. :story:

Greer might just be doing a disingenuous, lying citation to an inapplicable standard, like he always does. Or maybe that cite lends credence to Null saying Russ is mostly answering this thread. The judge in this case isn't sanctioning Greer because of page numbers, and Hardin has never mentioned his terrible formatting. But we have. Many times. 6

It would be very funny if Russ is citing cases that make him look bad just because he's butthurt over memes about his terrible filings.
 
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