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analrapist said:
6.12 is listed as stable on kernel.org. Kernel cycles on Gentoo are new to me. How quickly will gentoo-kernel 6.12 stop requiring the ~amd64 mask? Anyone know?
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Some discussion from #gentoo-kernel on 21/01/2025

[16:13] <pietinger> mpagano: sam_ Do you know when 6.12 will be stable for Gentoo?
[17:03] <mpagano> Waiting on the longterm designation
[17:06] <pietinger> mpagano: Sorry, I dont understand what you mean ... 6.12 is LTS since some december ... ??
[17:07] <mpagano> You sure?
[17:07] <holgerh> not officially.
[17:07] <holgerh> check https://www.kernel.org/ for the official designations.
[17:08] <pietinger> https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html
[17:08] <holgerh> :biggrin:
[17:08] <holgerh> nice
[17:09] <holgerh> still, in the past the current stable was only promoted to lts once a new stable series has shown up
[17:09] <pietinger> Since 6.12.2 https://lwn.net/Articles/1000871/
[17:15] <pietinger> holgerh: Yes ... since yesterday we have 6.13.0 ... ;)
[17:16] <sam_> pietinger: we generally wait a while
[17:17] <sam_> and ye,s it might officially be 'LTS', but it's not yet old enough to justify stabling
[17:17] * holgerh coughs in amdgpu regressions
[17:18] <pietinger> sam_: Yes ... Thank you ... I just wanted to ask.
[17:18] <sam_> the answer is the same as usual - "a while after it was out, at least until it's old enough to just be called 'longterm' on kernel.org (because that means it's not so new), and at least .10 or so but likely far deeper in"
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Jang Joo said:
From two days ago, but lol, lmao

GTK's X11 Backend Now Deprecated, Planned For Removal In GTK 5
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GTK felt the need to clarify
It seems that a few people are being misinformed about the deprecation of the X11 backend, usually because they read screeds from well-known bad faith actors.
The X11 backend being deprecated mainly means that we're not going to spend time implementing new features, like dmabuf, graphics offloading, or Vulkan support. X11 support will still exist until GTK4 is EOL, which will happen once GTK *6* is released. We're talking about a 20 years horizon, at this point…
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Not sure who they are referring to as bad actors as Lunduke hasn't had the chance to slop farm on this yet. :D
 
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Speaking of lunduke. He had a pretty embarrassing video saying arch is talking about banning twitter now, because the troons in the (unofficial) discord, and reddit are talking about it.

He then pinned a comment after everyone in the replies said that these aren't actually statements from arch. And coped about getting it wrong. Instead of just saying yeah, I messed up and jumped the gun. To me that kind of thing definitely hurts his credibility. At least be willing to say you messed up the story. Instead of doubling down, and coping.

The video.
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The pinned message.
 
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prollyanotherlurker said:
Speaking of lunduke. He had a pretty embarrassing video saying arch is talking about banning twitter now, because the troons in the (unofficial) discord, and reddit are talking about it.

He then pinned a comment after everyone in the replies said that these aren't actually statements from arch. And coped about getting it wrong. Instead of just saying yeah, I messed up and jumped the gun. To me that kind of thing definitely hurts his credibility. At least be willing to say you messed up the story. Instead of doubling down, and coping.
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I was surprised when the second video came out, and he didn't make any corrections at all. It's like no one reached out to him after the first one to tell him this was the unofficial channel. The Discord is quite large apparently, and by the nature of open source you could say the designation of official/unofficial may not really matter. But he should have still addressed the correction with its own short video instead of a pinned comment.

I tried to find any official Arch team responses. There was a post in the forums, but it's already been deleted:


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HootersMcBoobies said:
I was surprised when the second video came out, and he didn't make any corrections at all. It's like no one reached out to him after the first one to tell him this was the unofficial channel. The Discord is quite large apparently, and by the nature of open source you could say the designation of official/unofficial may not really matter. But he should have still addressed the correction with its own short video instead of a pinned comment.

I tried to find any official Arch team responses. There was a post in the forums, but it's already been deleted:


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To be fair. If I was on the arch team, and someone made a retarded video saying the unofficial discord represents what I'm working on, and the unofficial official discord in their correction. I would probably ignore it too. Not really any benefit to commenting on stuff. You would potentially piss off all the discord and reddit trannies, or if you supported them piss off all the chuds.

My schizo theory. Is he wants to convince people to use open mandriva. So he is trying to make arch look like red hat, and the others.
 
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prollyanotherlurker said:
My schizo theory. Is he wants to convince people to use open mandriva.
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What you are correct about is it being schizo. The answer is far simpler. Lunduke is just a Jew who craves attention and money. He doesn't give a shit about OpenMandriva beyond if he can make another video on the topic.

But with these official/un-official servers, it's all muddy and they do that purposefully just for times like these. Godot's Discord was "unofficial" yet many devs and the community managers all hung out in there and knew what was going on in there. The distinction was only made after all the drama. And unlike Godot, Arch seemingly hasn't even condemned what's going on.

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Space Pope said:
But with these official/un-official servers, it's all muddy and they do that purposefully just for times like these. Godot's Discord was "unofficial" yet many devs and the community managers all hung out in there and knew what was going on in there.
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It's true, easier to claim something is not "official" so as to avoid any responsibility when people moderating those servers go apeshit as they always do due to their mental instability. But one small OT correction, because the Foundation, its members and all the bootlickers lied about this repeatedly: Godot's server was as official as it gets. It was linked on their website for years (archive) with no indication it was "community ran", it was linked multiple thousands of times on their GitHub repository for anything from simple questions to organizing pull requests, it shared a good number of mods with it and was called as such when a few months earlier the community manager tried to take over it, got told to fuck off by the mentally unstable owner and made a new one. I can understand Lunduke taking a shot at Arch even if not as obvious, it's basically free outrage points: nobody outside those servers knows or cares what goes on in them and almost everyone is willing to shit on them because they fucking suck.
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Space Pope said:
What you are correct about is it being schizo. The answer is far simpler. Lunduke is just a Jew who craves attention and money. He doesn't give a shit about OpenMandriva beyond if he can make another video on the topic.

But with these official/un-official servers, it's all muddy and they do that purposefully just for times like these. Godot's Discord was "unofficial" yet many devs and the community managers all hung out in there and knew what was going on in there. The distinction was only made after all the drama. And unlike Godot, Arch seemingly hasn't even condemned what's going on.

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I would buy into that .. if they didn't have official things. Like a forum, or irc, or any of the things they are actually involved in. But they do.

It's unofficial because it's a random discord server a furry troon started, that is full of furry weirdos. They really don't have a place in stopping anyone from making anything. There is another archlinux discord server actually. Also a matrix server. They aren't ran by the arch team, they have nothing to do with them. It's not for muddying the waters. It's pretty clear.
 
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People should have left Twitter a long time ago. Just as bad under Musk as it was before, even worse in the amount of bots and curry stank engagement bait. My biggest problem is that Blusky fucking sucks. All lib shit plus they created their own open source protocol only they use so it cant even interact with fedi and will likely just end up as stacked up as Twitter in terms of bot spam. I like Fedi I found a place where I can say what I want without fear of tranny Jannies, can look at funny shitposts, and my posts actually get engagement.
 
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Yeah. I never used twitter. After musk bought it, still never joined. Just because right wing stuff isn't censored like it was, doesn't mean the platform isn't shit.

I think twitter, and any of the similar platforms that have the same kind of format are just a net negative for society imo. It just fuels anger, outrage, leads to people just doom scrolling. Basically I think they're bad for anyone's mental health.

Anyway. He did another video on Arch. Because they are deleting posts asking them to comment on their political stance and lunduke. If they don't want to have politics on the forum. Why would they comment lol. He says he doesn't want Linux distros to be political. But he wants them to comment on this.

Hey I'm sure he can stretch this one out into a few more videos. I just hope they don't actually do something retarded because of him poking them for a comment. Like actually start promoting pozzed shit.
 
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Lunduke is a sensationalist.

But when you are deleting/banning any mention of a person you don't like, even retroactively, and taking the same stance as that "unofficial" discord server, he has a great point: you can't really claim it's not your server anymore.

We should be concerned about the direction Arch is heading if every single person asking genuine questions is going to be officially labelled as a "troll" from here on out.

On an unrelated note, Lunduke has recently been making some statements on his Twitter too calling for mandatory government ID verification to access adult websites, then calling the EFF pedophiles for worrying about the privacy implications (the EFF can be a bunch of retards too though so maybe he's right, who knows, I didn't read the entire thing because I don't like them anyway). Then he picked a fight with his own audience about it. I can't find the tweets right now but the point is he is a journalist with exaggerated opinions and deciding to trust what he says should be done on a case-by-case basis. This is the Linux community and spasticism is expected.
 
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The Anarki Main said:
Then he picked a fight with his own audience about it.
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I must have missed the EFF arc, but I'll respect that he sticks up for his position. What I can't stand about Lunduke and his manufactured, attention seeking stories is that they are all 3x longer than they need to be. He just starts to repeat the same shit to triple the run time and finishes it up with 10 minutes talking about his all new limited time sale of lifetime subs. In small doses he's entertaining and it can be amusing to see how many of his stories he manages to make completely about himself.

But the ultimate problem with the Arch story is that the vast majority of any Lunduke viewer is using Arch themselves. So his audience would skew more skeptical of his claims this time around. The exact same circumstances with say Elementary OS and no one would have been in his YouTube comments calling Lunduke out.
 
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The Anarki Main said:
On an unrelated note, Lunduke has recently been making some statements on his Twitter too calling for mandatory government ID verification to access adult websites, then calling the EFF pedophiles for worrying about the privacy implications (the EFF can be a bunch of retards too though so maybe he's right, who knows, I didn't read the entire thing because I don't like them anyway). Then he picked a fight with his own audience about it. I can't find the tweets right now but the point is he is a journalist with exaggerated opinions and deciding to trust what he says should be done on a case-by-case basis. This is the Linux community and spasticism is expected.
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There isn't really a problem with that.

Just mandate that accessing pornography require a entirely private but foolproof form of ID verification. That will never be possible, so you've just banned pornography. Simple as
 
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The Anarki Main said:
Lunduke is a sensationalist.

But when you are deleting/banning any mention of a person you don't like, even retroactively, and taking the same stance as that "unofficial" discord server, he has a great point: you can't really claim it's not your server anymore.

We should be concerned about the direction Arch is heading if every single person asking genuine questions is going to be officially labelled as a "troll" from here on out.

On an unrelated note, Lunduke has recently been making some statements on his Twitter too calling for mandatory government ID verification to access adult websites, then calling the EFF pedophiles for worrying about the privacy implications (the EFF can be a bunch of retards too though so maybe he's right, who knows, I didn't read the entire thing because I don't like them anyway). Then he picked a fight with his own audience about it. I can't find the tweets right now but the point is he is a journalist with exaggerated opinions and deciding to trust what he says should be done on a case-by-case basis. This is the Linux community and spasticism is expected.
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Did the arch actual arch people actually say they were trolls or just ban them? Or is lunduke saying that's what they are saying? I'm actually asking because I haven't seen whether either is the case.

Because if it's arch just calling them trolls while banning that's one thing. But if they are banning people for bringing up clearly non software related topics even if people care about the topic is another. And I'm much more sympathetic to the later. Because bringing politics and drama bullshit into software is why these distros, and companies suck. I would rather it be right wing people if they are going to do it at all. But really. I would rather have no politics, or drama bullshit at all. Because to me it's irrelevant to what the purpose of me using X service, distro, etc.

Obviously lunduke is going to try to get people to watch what he is doing. But I just can't help but see some pretty obvious hypocrisy between this, and what I have heard him claim in idk how many videos.

And yeah. Idk the eff can suck a dick. But I definitely generally speaking am for anonymity, and privacy. For porn. I don't have an issue in theory with them requiring it. The issue I have is what it can potentially start to open the door up to. Maybe that's just my inheritant distrust of the government and big companies speaking but I feel like they always slowly push for more.
 
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