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To be honest being pro-labor and pro- America makes their brains short circuit. A lot of leftists are stuck in the mid 2000s.
Winning the culture war with hardly any meaningful resistance when the internet was still in it's awkward growing pains stages basically crystalized their worldview for life. Left is still the good and civil rights, working man's buddy and anti corporation side despite wanting you to take a shot or get fired, say the right words or get fired, and get locked up without trial, all while being backed by facebook amazon google and aligning with the PR department of raytheon (Which was at pride recently)

And telling you to stop being a luddite and trust the heckin' science and aggressive copyright is good actually despite being the anti-monsanto pro farmers party themselves once for all of.... 8-ish years?

And the right in their mind is still a bush jr gaffes haliburton rocks bomb everyone holden bloodfeast styled party that doesn't know how a computer works despite the fact the leftoids now don't know what the fuck opsec is or how to navigate a basic file system and a huge sum of them thinks food comes from the grocery store.
 
This USAID guy started talking about "You know who will benefit from this?" leading into an attempt to say that America's enemies will benefit. But when listing the bad guys he mentioned the Houthis and someone in the crowd went "woo!" lmaoooooo

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Damn, Nick Rekieta has really aged on the galaxy gas.
 
Fuck get that Vivek Jeet out of Ohio. He is going to lose that state to a MAGA Democrat.
That depends on if the Ohio Democrat Party really has one at this point. The few that you could potentially consider MAGA Democrats are trying to gun for the Senate by the looks of things. But who knows they may try to go for the Governor's office with one.
 
This is what alot of us were saying yesterday.
Yeah, I saw this write up which is what I hope is that case:

Grok explained how this plan would pan out.

Step 1: Public Statement Strategy Rationale: The U.S. (in this scenario, through a figure like Donald Trump) makes a bold public statement suggesting that the U.S. might take ownership or control over Gaza. This statement, while controversial, serves as a catalyst.

Step 2: International Reaction Monitoring Rationale: By monitoring the international reaction, especially from Arab nations, the U.S. can gauge the level of concern and opposition to such a move.

Step 3: Strategic Diplomatic Engagement Rationale: Engage with Arab nations diplomatically to discuss the implications of U.S. involvement in Gaza, emphasizing that such a move is not in the best interest of regional stability or Arab national interests. Highlight the potential negative outcomes of external (U.S.) control, like increased regional instability, loss of Arab influence, and the alienation of the Palestinian population.

Step 4: Encouraging Regional Ownership Rationale: Use the initial shock from the U.S. statement to encourage Arab nations to take proactive steps to claim ownership and responsibility over Gaza's development to prevent U.S. involvement. Offer U.S. support in a capacity that respects Arab leadership, perhaps through financial aid, diplomatic backing in international forums, or technical assistance, but not direct control.

Step 5: Leveraging International Bodies Rationale: Utilize international organizations to legitimize and support Arab-led initiatives, reducing the perceived need for U.S. intervention. Encourage the UN to facilitate peace talks or conferences where Arab nations can present their plans, ensuring these are seen as legitimate and supported by the international community.

Step 6: Public Diplomacy and Media Strategy Rationale: Shape public perception to favor Arab involvement over U.S. control, reducing potential backlash against the U.S. and fostering a positive image of regional cooperation.

Step 7: Withdrawal of U.S. Proposal Rationale: Once Arab nations have committed to a plan or are actively involved, the U.S. can step back, showing that its initial proposal was a strategic move to stimulate regional action.

Basically saying shit to get a response and some action. No one in the area wants the American s to be there full time.
 
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Well-placed sources in Amman and Jerusalem told MEE that the last thing Jordan wants is war and it is eager for a peaceful solution. But they are adamant that the Jordanians will close the border if refugees begin to cross into the country. If the Israelis seek to re-open it, that would be "a casus belli," one source said. The Jordanians are under no illusion they could win a war with Israel, but believe they would have no choice but to fight.
Any smoke to this, or is this just their own version of saber-rattling?
 
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Any smoke to this, or is this just their own version of saber-rattling?
Can believe Jordan is adamantly against taking any Palestinian niggers, especially after what happened to Lebanon in the 1970s. (For context, the Palestinians attempted to overthrow the civil government and sparked a brutal civil war that Beirut is only just starting to recover from). Whether they'd be willing to go to war however...
 
The lack of awareness to say the shit they are saying 17 days removed from the inauguration of a POPULARLY INAUGURATED PRESIDENT WITH A 2.3 MILLION VOTE PLURALITY to say nothing of the house, senate and supreme court.
"If you elect Trump he'll gut government programs!"
the people elect Trump
"NOOOOO why didn't you listen? Didn't you hear us say he'll gut all the programs?"
Trump starts loudly gutting programs, announcing them all on social media

"You know what we need? A protest to tell everyone Trump is gutting government programs! Surely that will get them on our side!"

This is some definition of insanity tier logic.
 
Fuck get that Vivek Jeet out of Ohio. He is going to lose that state to a MAGA Democrat.

Also, Britbongs lol.
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Brits should blame themselves for abandoning the British Palestine Mandate just because a hotel got blown up and two soldiers were skinned and hanged by some terrorist kikes.
 
So much for "nothing ever happens" and "2 weeks".
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I wish concern trolls didn't get highlighted for lazy L takes. It incentivizes reaction bait; derailing into unproductively calling a retard a retard.
Spergs fighting about esoteric details supplements the fun of forums, but letting posters wander in and shit themselves to attract attention detracts. If you're going to allow autists, you gotta filter out the ones that shit themselves.

I'd like a crystal prison or burger of shame sticker that blocks highlighting. But, I'll appreciate what we've got here, and not burden dear sneeder.
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I wish we would bring back the Thunderdome. I wouldn't mind spamming burgersuits over there.
 
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Any smoke to this, or is this just their own version of saber-rattling?
with the attempted revolution by commie pallies in 1970, it's probably not saber rattling. jordan is likely the most unwilling of all the surrounding nations to take palestinians.

for those unfamiliar with black september:
Wikipedia said:
After the 1967 Six-Day War, Palestinian fedayeen guerrillas relocated to Jordan and stepped up their attacks against Israel and what had become the Israeli-occupied West Bank. They were headquartered at the Jordanian border town of Karameh, which Israel targeted during the Battle of Karameh in 1968, leading to a surge of Arab support for the fedayeen. The PLO's strength grew, and by early 1970, leftist groups within the PLO began calling for the overthrow of Jordan's Hashemite monarchy, leading to violent clashes in June 1970. Hussein hesitated to oust them from the country, but continued PLO activities in Jordan culminated in the Dawson's Field hijackings of 6 September 1970. This involved the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) seizing three civilian passenger flights and forcing their landing in the Jordanian city of Zarqa, where they took foreign nationals as hostages and blew up the planes in front of international press. Hussein saw this as the last straw and ordered the Jordanian Army to take action.

On 17 September 1970, the Jordanian Army surrounded cities with a significant PLO presence, including Amman and Irbid, and began targeting fedayeen posts that were operating from Palestinian refugee camps. The next day, 10,000 Syrian troops bearing Palestine Liberation Army (PLA) markings began an invasion by advancing towards Irbid, which the fedayeen had occupied and declared to be a "liberated" city. On 22 September, the Syrians withdrew from Irbid after suffering heavy losses to a coordinated aerial–ground offensive by the Jordanians. Mounting pressure from other Arab countries, such as Iraq, led Hussein to halt his offensive. On 13 October, he signed an agreement with Arafat to regulate the fedayeen's presence in Jordan. However, the Jordanian military attacked again in January 1971, and the fedayeen were driven out of the cities, one by one, until 2,000 surrendered after they were encircled during the Ajlun offensive on 23 July, formally marking the end of the conflict.

Jordan allowed the fedayeen to relocate to Lebanon via Syria, where they later became involved in the Lebanese Civil War. The Palestinian Black September Organization was founded after the conflict to carry out attacks against Jordanian authorities in response to the fedayeen's expulsion; their most notable attack was the assassination of Jordanian prime minister Wasfi Tal in 1971, as he had commanded parts of the military operations against the fedayeen. The following year, the organization shifted its focus to attacking Israeli targets and carried out the Munich massacre against Israeli athletes. Though the events of Black September did not reflect a Jordanian–Palestinian divide, as there were Jordanians and Palestinians on both sides of the conflict, it paved the way for such a divide to emerge subsequently.

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