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Someone described it as "Dad taking away the toy because two kids couldn't stop fighting over it." That seems like a very simple way to understand the logic. Therefore, if by some God Given Miracle, the middle east can calm down and stop fighting because of this plan, we would relinquish control. I think Trump is being pragmatically pessimistic and realizes that may never happen, so we can just keep the land forever because the kids will never stop fighting.

As the US, our only other options were to endorse one side or the other and ignite war. We should not be endorsing genocide (even if the farms wants it), because realistically it would alienate us and make us truly evil.
You're forgetting about the most sensible option: cut aid to Israel and let it be. We created this mess by propping them up. I fear that us taking ownership of Gaza will just make things worse and that as long as Israel is propped up by us they'll destabilize the region by being hyperaggressive and refusing sensible compromises.
 
If they leave, then Israel is going to take the place over like they've always intended. Once the Palestinians are evicted they're gone for good. I hope you realize this.
The Israelis taking it over would be the preferable outcome out of this boneheaded plan. I don't think people realize how much of a rapid escalation claiming administrative territory in the Middle East would be. It would be us asking to have our dick in a fire ant mound in perpetuity. There would ALWAYS be justification for the rest of the region to be hostile. It's like moving in with your crackhead brother squatting in someone's rental house instead of just paying for his meals.
 
The poison pill was "what do you want?"
thats what kills most revolutions, very rarely is it the people that fought it that get what they wanted out of it.
I speak Israeli:
why was Ethan Klein so angry about that Hila cartoon Null loves so much?
The only pajeet cop I’ve ever seen was in supertroopers
and he was fucking badass! Also Kash was a better call saul type but in Miami, if someone knows corruption its this guy.
a lifetime position
obama is a half pack a day smoker and a black man in his 60s, even if the democrats won in 2028 and a supreme court justice died in 2029, obama would still be a shitty pick because he'd be one of the oldest ever nominated. basically guarantying the right gets the seat next election. imagine that legacy as well, strong arming your way into being the shortest supreme court justice to serve in the modern era.
 
The Israelis taking it over would be the preferable outcome out of this boneheaded plan. I don't think people realize how much of a rapid escalation claiming administrative territory in the Middle East would be. It would be us asking to have our dick in a fire ant mound in perpetuity. There would ALWAYS be justification for the rest of the region to be hostile.
I disagree. We should set up a Palestinian state. This shit only happens because we let Israel ensure that there is not a stable Palestinian government that can care for its people. To hell with the Zionists, it's time Uncle Sam did what's right.
 
If you don't think most if not all of the important parts of this data haven't already been sold out to every data broker known to man, I don't know what to say. Politicians did not give a shit what happened to the citizens information for decades, and a majority of them still don't care. They only give a shit about keeping their bribery paper trails safe. There is nothing Musk and crew could do with this info that a thousand bad actors couldn't and likely have already done.
you have a very good point.
 
I disagree. We should set up a Palestinian state. This shit only happens because we let Israel ensure that there is not a stable Palestinian government that can care for its people. To hell with the Zionists, it's time Uncle Sam did what's right.
We tried nation-building in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's no match for Muhammad Abunutsack's feral dune coon instincts to perform human sacrifice to Allah.

Rug jockeys are not your friends, no matter how much you hate Jews.
 
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John Kennedy just read in the USAID spending list into Congressional record while mocking the Dems the whole time.


Trump has energized the GoP like never before.

Going to list all the spending I can "line by line" from the video for the Kiwis with shot attention spans or cant listen to audio rn

I will be writing what he says VERBATUM as the Senator says it because what is being reported is so absurd any editorializing on my part would make it seem less credible

1, Unspecified amount to support electric vehicles in Vietnam
2. Unspecified amount to transgender clinic in India
3. 1.5 million to Serbian LGBT called "Groupa Isadogi?" (name might be spelled wrong)
4. 164 million to support radical orgs around world. 122 million of witch went to groups aligned with foreign terrorist organizations, the senators exact words
5. "millions" of dollars to orgs in Gaza
6. 2 million to sex changes in Guatemala
7. 20 million to Iraq to make a new sesame street show
8. 4.5 million to combat misinformation is Kazakhstan
9. 10 million in meals to Al-queda linked group called "Neswa Front?" (name might be spelled wrong)
10. 7.9 million to sri lanaka to teach journalists there to avoid binary gender language
11. 1.5 million to promote lgbtq advocacy in Jamaica
12. 1.5 million to rebuild Cuban media ecosystem
13. 1.5 million for art for "people with disabilities" in Belarus
14. 3.9 million dollars for lgbtq causes in north Macedonia
15. 8.3 million for equity and inclusion in Nepal
Its at this point Senator John Kennedy says "Mr. Musk deserves a medal for finding this" says "spending porn" for the 4rd time and makes me smile
 
You're forgetting about the most sensible option: cut aid to Israel and let it be. We created this mess by propping them up. I fear that us taking ownership of Gaza will just make things worse and that as long as Israel is propped up by us they'll destabilize the region by being hyperaggressive and refusing sensible compromises.
That is the option I agree with the most, but I also would not be able to pull it off if I was the current President. In a way, its like throwing them to the dogs. Zero aid means they reap what they have sewn and get eviscerated by the billions of Muslims ready to pounce. It is cosmic justice, but it wouldn't be right for a leader to let them all die like that. Thats why the JQ is so complex, they are both infinitely fragile and infinitely influential.

My mega optimistic theory is that Trump is distancing us from Israel slowly, we are taking direct action instead of wiring them billions every month. "Let us handle it, you just sit and watch." Same way we handled the ceasefire. They are being boxed out and led by a leash, the way it should be. If Trump resumes the same amount of aid, or even 30% of the same amount of aid to Israel after the freezes, I will be let down, but at the end of the day he is still a Boomer.

I think the younger generations are waking up to the JQ and what to do about it. It probably won't be fixed for 30-40 more years. Trump's (hopeful) distancing of Israel is the best first step we can take to eventually wean them off.
 
We tried nation-building in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's no match for Muhammad Abunutsack's feral dune coon instincts to perform human sacrifice to Allah.
Gaza is tiny and has like what, 2 million tops? They're also all one group. This isn't like Iraq where you have Kurds, the Shia-Sunni divide, etc.
 
I disagree. We should set up a Palestinian state. This shit only happens because we let Israel ensure that there is not a stable Palestinian government that can care for its people. To hell with the Zionists, it's time Uncle Sam did what's right.
I agree with you completely but I'm looking at possibilities that would come out of this bullshit, shot from the hip, non-plan. I'd rather these demons be buried and the Palestinians given their homes back but more than anything I don't want the US to be entrenched in the region forever. It's fun to think about taking Greenland since it's on our continent and strategically significant for us at home. We have NOTHING to gain from having an administrative territory in the Middle East other than to escalate wars Israel wants but doesn't want to pay for.
 
Gaza is tiny and has like what, 2 million tops? They're also all one group. This isn't like Iraq where you have Kurds, the Shia-Sunni divide, etc.
It's not a matter of landmass. It's a matter of trying to impose a way of life upon a moronic and hopelessly primitive culture. Attempting to civilize them is casting our pearls before swine.
 
one of the biggest fuckeries is CAFE standards. in the 70s during the fuel crisis, the NHTSA was put in charge of implementing Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards, which are standards meant to increase the average MPG of cars sold in the US
One more thing the government does to make life worse that no Republican has ever touched, Trump included. Hope that's on the list for Term 2.
 
My mega optimistic theory is that Trump is distancing us from Israel slowly, we are taking direct action instead of wiring them billions every month. "Let us handle it, you just sit and watch." Same way we handled the ceasefire. They are being boxed out and led by a leash, the way it should be. If Trump resumes the same amount of aid, or even 30% of the same amount of aid to Israel after the freezes, I will be let down, but at the end of the day he is still a Boomer.

I think the younger generations are waking up to the JQ and what to do about it. It probably won't be fixed for 30-40 more years. Trump's (hopeful) distancing of Israel is the best first steps we can take to eventually wean them off.
That'd actually be a great outcome. Getting us the fuck out. But I mean look eventually we have to bite the bullet and support a Palestinian state.
I agree with you completely but I'm looking at possibilities that would come out of this bullshit, shot from the hip, non-plan. I'd rather these demons be buried and the Palestinians given their homes back but more than anything I don't want the US to be entrenched in the region forever. It's fun to think about taking Greenland since it's on our continent and strategically significant for us at home. We have NOTHING to gain from having an administrative territory in the Middle East other than to escalate wars Israel wants but doesn't want to pay for.
Exactly.
It's not a matter of landmass. It's a matter of trying to impose a way of life upon a moronic and hopelessly primitive culture. Attempting to civilize them is casting our pearls before swine.
Oh and the Israelis are so much better? They're both filthy heathens. If Israel can be a semi functioning state so can Palestine.
 
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