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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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If I have to hear one more fucking congresswoman whine about "the powers of the purse" given by the founding fathers and the constitution

Until they walk back every single unconstitutional "law" they passed rolling back citizens 2nd ammendment rights I dont want congress to have ANY authority

I want the legislative branch to be a JUNIOR member of the government, your powers of the purse have been changed. you should have used the responsibility better and treated it with more respect
It's especially rich, given the fact that Congress signed away a significant amount of their power to the Executive Branch after Iraq.
They didn't want the responsibility of unpopular decisions to prevent their re-election, so they gave up their responsibilities (and therefore their power) to Obama and let him assume all of the risk. They have nobody to blame but themselves for being unable to stop Trump now.
 
You still haven't explained why you're favoring the Jews over Muslims rather than, oh I don't know, realizing they both equally suck.
Except I did. Twice.
Heebs are shady and annoying, but they can be reasoned with.

Hadjis? One funny look or imagined slight, and it's off with your head.
Because one is merely a nuisance. The other is a (literal) ticking time bomb. It's a question of which is a more immediate threat.
You didn't wanna hear it, because you've already made up your mind. Just because they both suck doesn't mean they equally suck. One is clearly the superior society.
 
After '28 Trump will just visit Vance every week to fight reporters and they can talk about what they want to do. Then he'll go play golf in Bedminster

It's not a coincidence Trump has relatively young people working in this cabinet and is also running a physiognomy playbook where everyone looks handsome and attractive compared to the ghouls and retards of the democrat leadership.
 
The world really needs to learn this lesson. Bullying should be controlled to some extent, but if you take it away entirely, the theater kids get too bold and take over.

Now that we have seen Theater Kid America, most of us can agree that it's worth getting beaten up a few times if it means avoiding that again.

Only if the one being bullied can swing back. No more zero-tolerance policy, it makes a one way street. Let the bully get jumped a week later for beating up the nerdy kid for no real reason, it teaches him to not start shit if he can’t stay on point.
 
Except I did. Twice.

You didn't wanna hear it, because you've already made up your mind. Just because they both suck doesn't mean they equally suck. One is clearly superior than the other.
You know I don't think this is going anywhere so let's just drop it to not shit up the thread. Neither of us will budge.
 
Musk was a retard to argue with internet shitposters and groypers, but I'm sick of this "go away forever" bullshit. He's doing amazing things as we fucking speak.
It would be fine if he was stuck in his own corner like with RFK and and Tulsi where they only have power over the areas that they'll be a benefit to the country in, but he is concerningly close with Trump.
 
Ive never seen ANY congressmen but specifically dems works this hard EVER. they are blowing gasket trying to convince someone ANYONE

"PLEASE, WONT YOU PLEASE TURN MY UNREGULATED GOVERNMENT SLUSH FUNDS BACK ON AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DONT AUDIT THEM!"

Their base is so much more concerned with like "data invasion" at the most but more realistically they are crying about elon being a nazi far more than some weird agency no one has heard about before about 5 days ago.

there is a little more than a 1,000 people watching these senators on PBS just go on and on, do they not realize NONE of there base if ever going to hear these words? like they need to be on tik tok livestreams or on kick doing slots talking about how lame trump is or somthing, they really think giving 37 min long stump speeches is the best way to convince your base about ANYTHING?

you just lost in all 3 branches of gov and you NOW want to motivate your base to give a fuck about ANYTHING? much less some weird letter agency that spends money on wacky, wacky shit? your fucking dreaming pal. Its just poetry in motion to watch them cling to the framework of a government they have happily warped and abused for political expediency for years and now wanna cry fowl then the other party does it in the public eye
 
I think it's just as likely that he's trying to keep his job. Fetterman is up for reelection in 2028 which will be a presidential election year as well. PA is very much in play and the Republicans just unseated Bob Casey who was a senator there for nearly two decades. Fetterman is nowhere near as secure in his own position and if he followed the standard Democrat playbook it's likely that he would lose.
Fetterman is fucked in '28 most likely. Scott Presler does not care how "moderate" he is and is going to work his ass off to get him out even if Fetterman goes full DINO.
Only way he'll edge out a victory is if the Republican candidate is hilariously bad (keep in mind, McCormick won despite being a hedge fund CEO who funded tranny surgeries for his employees, on top of other controversies, so we're talking worse than that), Scott spreads himself too thin with his announced work on places like NJ, VA, and AK, or the country crashes and burns in the next 4 years.
 
But who knows what will happen if Trump legit improves America. Many things are up in the air right now but if they end up sticking they theres going to be a ton of money and happiness.
I notice a lot of his plans, even if by executive order, would be very hard to justify undoing.

Let's say if Trump got everything on his wish list, millions of illegals deported, built the Wall, Iceland, Canada, Panama and Gaza all territories the External Revenue service extracts trillions of dollars in tribute from, as well as tribute directly from NATO and UN to US, AND raping Ukraine for precious minerals to pay us back with interest instead of just a forever IOU, how would the next Democrat President justify undoing all that?

"Uh, I know America got rid of all the illegals leeching off the system, and is keeping more from getting in, freeing up funds for public services vastly, and we are now at our greatest territorial extent ever, bringing in more funds and resources, as well as trade and strategic security than ever before, but uh, we decided we don't like that, so come on back in Illegals! Come one come all, and we'll demolish the wall to let in even more than ever before, and even though we're bringing back in all those mouths to feed and more, we'll also be giving away all our new territories and all the revenue that came with them, and go back to going infinitely in debt forever to pay for illegals and every other country in the world!"

Then again, that's what happened to the British Empire
 
Ive never seen ANY congressmen but specifically dems works this hard EVER. they are blowing gasket trying to convince someone ANYONE

"PLEASE, WONT YOU PLEASE TURN MY UNREGULATED GOVERNMENT SLUSH FUNDS BACK ON AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DONT AUDIT THEM!"

Their base is so much more concerned with like "data invasion" at the most but more realistically they are crying about elon being a nazi far more than some weird agency no one has heard about before about 5 days ago.

there is a little more than a 1,000 people watching these senators on PBS just go on and on, do they not realize NONE of there base if ever going to hear these words? like they need to be on tik tok livestreams or on kick doing slots talking about how lame trump is or somthing, they really think giving 37 min long stump speeches is the best way to convince your base about ANYTHING?

you just lost in all 3 branches of gov and you NOW want to motivate your base to give a fuck about ANYTHING? much less some weird letter agency that spends money on wacky, wacky shit? your fucking dreaming pal. Its just poetry in motion to watch them cling to the framework of a government they have happily warped and abused for political expediency for years and now wanna cry fowl then the other party does it in the public eye
I don't think they were anticipating this many skeletons coming out of the closet, let alone so rapidly.
 
I notice a lot of his plans, even if by executive order, would be very hard to justify undoing.

Let's say if Trump got everything on his wish list, millions of illegals deported, built the Wall, Iceland, Canada, Panama and Gaza all territories the External Revenue service extracts trillions of dollars in tribute from, as well as tribute directly from NATO and UN to US, AND raping Ukraine for precious minerals to pay us back with interest instead of just a forever IOU, how would the next Democrat President justify undoing all that?

"Uh, I know America got rid of all the illegals leeching off the system, and is keeping more from getting in, freeing up funds for public services vastly, and we are now at our greatest territorial extent ever, bringing in more funds and resources, as well as trade and strategic security than ever before, but uh, we decided we don't like that, so come on back in Illegals! Come one come all, and we'll demolish the wall to let in even more than ever before, and even though we're bringing back in all those mouths to feed and more, we'll also be giving away all our new territories and all the revenue that came with them, and go back to going infinitely in debt forever to pay for illegals and every other country in the world!"

Then again, that's what happened to the British Empire
God sometimes I wish I could see into the future so I can see how they would try and jusityf it.
 
Ive never seen ANY congressmen but specifically dems works this hard EVER. they are blowing gasket trying to convince someone ANYONE

"PLEASE, WONT YOU PLEASE TURN MY UNREGULATED GOVERNMENT SLUSH FUNDS BACK ON AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DONT AUDIT THEM!"

Their base is so much more concerned with like "data invasion" at the most but more realistically they are crying about elon being a nazi far more than some weird agency no one has heard about before about 5 days ago.

there is a little more than a 1,000 people watching these senators on PBS just go on and on, do they not realize NONE of there base if ever going to hear these words? like they need to be on tik tok livestreams or on kick doing slots talking about how lame trump is or somthing, they really think giving 37 min long stump speeches is the best way to convince your base about ANYTHING?

you just lost in all 3 branches of gov and you NOW want to motivate your base to give a fuck about ANYTHING? much less some weird letter agency that spends money on wacky, wacky shit? your fucking dreaming pal. Its just poetry in motion to watch them cling to the framework of a government they have happily warped and abused for political expediency for years and now wanna cry fowl then the other party does it in the public eye
Also as an example of this the dem senate has pulled an ongoing 30 hour overnight vigil in protest of the OMB nominee that is going to be confirmed anyway any if you go on reddit or any other left gathering space THEY DONT EVEN KNOW ITS TAKING PLACE
 
No the ultimate mistake is sticking our necks out for a state that has no right to exist, is stuck in an eternal quagmire, is completely reliant on us, and offers us no benefit.

Right to exist? The only right any nation has to exist is what they do to secure their own existence. The palestinian rubble rats have as much right to a nation as anyone else, they have to force it. Either through fighting for it or politicking, if israel doesn't kill em all.
 
You know I don't think this is going anywhere so let's just drop it to not shit up the thread. Neither of us will budge.
Expectation of jewposting on uncensored site: "ahh yes now that you explain it we finally see they are the cause of all problems"

Reality: "ohh my fucking god yes we agree the jews are bad but will you move the fuck on already"
 
I just got into an irl argument with a friend who previously was able to hold a civil conversation with me about politics. He kept going on an on about Trump’s ”fascist rhetoric” and how he was going to denaturalize all immigrants because of the EO against birth right citizenship. When I told him that was not what was happening he got emotional and said he was a second generation (European) immigrant and was going to be targeted (huh?). I pointed out Trump and Vance both had immigrant wives but apparently they are protected from any fascist rulings because they are “rich”. He said private billionaires shouldn’t be in the government.

My neighbor also ran up to me yesterday and said I need to call my representative like he did to “fight fascism!”

I think people that have this mentality at this point are impossible to reason with. I don’t think they are capable of rationalizing or critically thinking anymore, sadly.
 
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