Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Useful_Mistake]

hat's 10 pages of saying Greer should've been sanctioned, and then 1 paragraph saying "lol no".

He was, though.

 

[Null]

1. Greer is going to try to appeal an unappealable order.
2. There's two more bites at the apple coming up.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

1. Greer is going to try to appeal an unappealable order.

I mean, yeah, he already told Mr. Hardin as much

 

[Magnificent Penis]

Partial W for Greer. Greer now only owes Null 1k
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What a crock of shit. The judge goes into detail about how everything the magistrate did was correct, that Russel did fuck up and deserves to have to pay reasonable expenses, only to, at the last moment, throw in a "but he is a good boy pro se litigant so let's cut the already forgiving bill by 85%, reasonable expenses be damned". It is undeniable now that the court is playing the role of tard guard.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

We're already waiting for him to show cause for why he isn't due another financial curbstomp.

Let the spittle-flecked seething continue.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

so let's cut the already forgiving bill by 85%,

The District Judge did not read Mr. Hardin's bill.

 

[obsdj]

I mean, yeah, he already told Mr. Hardin as much

I mean, yeah. He has said so, in so many words. He's never going to stop.
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Twinsies!

 

[Harambe]

Yes

Yes

Null, I believe

I'll be happy with any sanctions then. Literally any amount will snowball into an unending nightmare for Greer, if Null got awarded 100 dollars in fees it would simply be the acorn growing into the mighty oak which is lodged firmly in Greer's ass. There is a very low chance that Greer will ever even attempt to be anything besides willful, recalcitrant, and spitefully ignorant.

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

I get Russ is likely to fuck this up still, but this is just the kind of retarded take I've come to expect from the U.S. judiciary.

 

[Harvey Danger]

We're already waiting for him to show cause for why he isn't due another financial curbstomp.

"Yer Honah, I've already been penalized by having my very real and very eager witness Steve Taylor exit this world under heavy harassment by the Kiwi Farms. Now I can never reconcile with him and bring his amazing testimony to bear in my very real lawsuit. Steve is fucking dead! Isn't that enough sanction?"

 

[Genesis Printhas]

It may be madness, but methinks there's method to it.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

God, folks need to stop whining about this. This is an excellent ruling. The order 99.9% bitch-slapped Russell. On every point, he lost. It was only the amount of what he owes that was limited - because of IFP AND that this is his first sanction in this case (that's a warning, btw - it will not apply next time).

 

[Low IQ Doctor]

At this point, could Russ actually just bow out? It seems like the court is willing to cushion any L so it probably wouldn't make a huge difference on his financial situation.

 

[waffle]

We're already waiting for him to show cause for why he isn't due another financial curbstomp.

Let the spittle-flecked seething continue.

if Null got awarded 100 dollars in fees it would simply be the acorn growing into the mighty oak

Russ is in the kind of position that once it flips around it happens really fast and you see all the little traps and comments that were put in earlier orders suddenly used to smack him over the head. All of a sudden the judge will be talking about what is effectively fake progressive discipline on Russ and how he was warned that he wasn't following the rules and escalating financial sanctions seems to have no effect on him so now we have to dismiss it and sanction him huge because he just won't learn.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

At this point, could Russ actually just bow out?

Nope. He needs permission from daddy Nool to withdraw now.

all the little traps and comments that were put in earlier orders suddenly used to smack him over the head

I eagerly await receipt of the extremely relevant restraining order that definitely exists which he's happy to provide as it would not be burdensome to do so.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

At this point, could Russ actually just bow out?

With Null's permission, yes. Otherwise he would need a court order, which would be required to weigh things like the harm caused to the defense already with Russ' request. Broadly, see:

He can't. He lost the ability when Null responded. If he wants this dismissed, he has to beg for Mr. Hardin's permission, or for a court to order dismissal, but the court is required to deny such a motion when the non-moving party is prejudiced (like by having spent tons of money already or the moving party waiting too long to file such a request). See, broadly, FRCP 41 (a) (1) (A) and Ohlander v. Larson, 114 F.3d 1531 (10th Cir. 1997)

 

[YouTube Autist]

This suggests to me that the District Judge will not be so lenient with the second sanction the Magistrate imposed, which while a lesser one, is at least some good progress.

If only the judge had a daughter for Russell to harass.

Articulate your fucking question before posting it. I can't answer your half formed thoughts

uga ug duga ug uduga. plaintiff breach guidelines. judge no good, ignore jurisdiction. precedent say ob jub un-duga waka

Dodging collections agencies for the rest of his life while trying to accrue capital for his brothel is a future I wish for Rusty.

A permanent spot on the sex offender registry is the future I wish for Rusty.

When Russell's parents die (or if he does something sufficiently heinous to make them stop supporting him, though I'm not holding my breath on that one) it will shift things fundamentally. It's difficult to judge exactly the extent of their involvement in his life, but the evidence suggests that they may have shielded him from the full experience of homelessness and destitution. Once Russell finds himself truly ruined and without anyone to bail him out, things will change for him.

Russ is in the kind of position that once it flips around it happens really fast and you see all the little traps and comments that were put in earlier orders suddenly used to smack him over the head. All of a sudden the judge will be talking about what is effectively fake progressive discipline on Russ and how he was warned that he wasn't following the rules and escalating financial sanctions seems to have no effect on him so now we have to dismiss it and sanction him huge because he just won't learn.

This is an interesting theory and I'd be glad to see it vindicated.

it would simply be the acorn growing into the mighty oak which is lodged firmly in Greer's ass

You have a way with words.

 

[Napoleon III]

5K was a very reasonable amount for the work put in by Hardin. Is it because Melonhead is homeless I wonder? Maybe the magistrate settle on an amount he feels Ratface can realistically pay? But 5K in legal costs is nothing on the average.

The judge stated that Greer's IFP status came into this and makes it hard to slap large sanctions on someone. I think everyone here got a little bit too excited yesterday. Yes things are going really badly for Greer. No Greer isn't about to be turbonuked at High Noon. This lawsuit is not over yet but it is going in the direction that is good AND it is unlikely Greer can change the direction this case is going.

The only way Greer can dig himself out of the hole is pay the $1000 and somehow begin to actually prosecute his case. He cannot do that and has and will continue to engage in shenanigans and plightsperging until this ends.

I won't say that I'm happy that Greer isn't currently being beaten by gavels, and would have liked him to pay the full amount. But worth remembering this is still a big Greer L.

Trust the plan. WWG1WGA

Trusting the Plan Q N has secret information we don't know.

Insane handholding from the judge, it's hardly the first time this has happened in the case but I'm somehow shocked every time by just how useless the system is.

If it were insane handholding the Judge wouldn't have awarded sanctions at all.

I might just be too much of a legal layman but is it possible that this retard will just file in another district. (regardless of if he'd be allowed to or not)

No if you actually find this case interesting I suggest you actually read through the highlights of this thread. Otherwise there is a Russel Greer thread if you would just like to laugh at him.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

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I get Russ is likely to fuck this up still, but this is just the kind of retarded take I've come to expect from the U.S. judiciary.

its looks good to me. russ is q retarded fuckup but i like the idea of the court being leniant on pro se litigants with actual merit.

think about it, ty beard had a big law firm and he fucked big league, so how much harder would a pro se litigant have at it?

 

[obsdj]

Now that we finally have the damn District Judge's ruling, we do need a new thread poll. How about:

When Greer responds to the latest show-cause order, will he CONTINUE to insist that Hardin violated the SPO?