Anna o' Brien / Glitter + Lazers / GlitterandLazers - Fat, drunk, consoomer attention whore who would rather eat and drink herself to death than endure a single negative emotion

[I call shenanigans]

Maybe it was misplaced but I was also failed by the entire medical system for seven years straight. Until you’ve been in my shoes it’s easier to say that because you’re not living this disaster. Now I know for the future.

I think we need to be careful when suggesting an entire medical system has “failed” us. That’s suggesting the system should be infallible and have every answer to every question at their fingertips. That’s not, and never will be a reality. Diagnosing the cause of issues can be a very long, complicated and costly process. Its usual that once a referral to appropriate specialists that testing starts with the most common working diagnosis. The testing will usually also start with the least invasive, easiest, and cheapest protocols, over time moving through to more invasive and costly testing. These things all take time, often years, and sometimes there isn’t an answer to be had. As frustrating as that is for someone dealing with such an illness, it isn’t the doctors fault for not having all the answers from the get go. It doesn’t help either that the longer it takes to get answers, and hopefully a solution, the more stressful the situation becomes for the patient, and the increasing stress levels often further exacerbate the symptoms.

A “failure” of the entire medical system to me would involve ongoing negligence, and that’s not where a resolved “medical mystery” sits even though it feels that way for the patient. I’m glad you found your answers eventually, and sorry it took so long to do so.

I have never, and never will listen to one of Anna’s medical mystery podcasts. She’s just not credible, and nor are any of the woo hoo doctors she has so far introduced to the universe. To me that makes them all as insufferable as Anna herself. If anyones been “failed” by the medical system it’s Anna, but it’s also her fault for doctor shopping for ones that will tell her what she wants to hear rather than deal out the harsh realities of her situation. Anna’s story is not a medical mystery, it’s a lifestyle consequence.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Her pupils do look constricted. I don’t know if it could be studio lights though? And ugh, that skin, how can she not want to heal if? Maybe now if she can’t move her arms it’ll get a chance. It looks better in the 2nd.

Like Chantal, those glasses don’t fit-no wonder she wears big ugly ones out.

She just moved so I’m not sure we’d recognize a background yet.

Seemed she was filming with natural light. Notice her face doesn’t look more lit than everything else in frame. She’s also surrounded by a lot of light and openness. A ring light would be obvious. I suppose she could be using soft light but it doesn’t seem like that is the case

@I call shenanigans I said I was failed by the medical system. In my case, I went to the geneticist several times. He did no testing, told me twice my child looks like he had nothing and then billed insurance. Did not do a family tree. Never said what he thought it could be.

Geneticists are trained to look at unusual features. That to me is an utter failure. I know how genetics works, they always take a family history and are supposed to examine parents as well as the kids. He would have seen my hands and should have known instantly I had a skeletal dysplasia. You did not listen to the episode and that’s okay, I don’t expect people to but the people who do work in genetics every day and are physicians in genetics did tell me that doctor was not doing his job and agree that I fell through the cracks. It’s never normal for a baby or child to be 0 percentile in height or to not develop or grow. All the common stuff was ruled out.

Prenatally, there was a concern about short long bones. If a parent is coming to a genetics dept with karyotyping (with indications of certain facial features) and cma at birth and then reporting the kid fails to grow or develop, along with a very delayed bone age and delayed physical development, it is a major red flag. The diagnosis is rare, yes. I didn’t expect him to know the disease exactly, but it’s easy to see he has skeletal dysplasia. His fingers are crooked.

The diagnosis actually came from me. Not any doctor until genetic testing came back. I had to solve my own mystery.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

i imagine it's not a health risk but rather an intoxication one, if you're going to be performing surgery you wanna be as lucid as possible
you likely wouldn't notice the small amount you can accidentally breathe in but if it makes you even a little bit sleepy, that's dangerous, especially for a long operation

they also go through a few operations a day, so it definitely adds up
same reason your doctor bolts out of the room at the speed of sound after he sets the xray machine, the one flash you got during that examination, he would potentially experience a dozen times a day

it's more the latter, overall the drugs are quite safe but if you can eliminate a risk entirely it's always best.

I wouldn't choose to reveal my personal info here, I think I speak for the group when I say your contribution is appreciated.

if anyone plans to do something similar in the future at least use a fake name.

Look at the difference in size between the two and tell me that is not pinpoint pupils or constricted at all.

they're not pinpoint. in the bottom picture they might be a bit larger because she has a bit of extra adrenaline running from presenting to an audience. but both are fairly normal.

 

[I call shenanigans]

I don’t expect people to but the people who do work in genetics every day and are physicians in genetics did tell me that doctor was not doing his job and agree that I fell through the cracks. It’s never normal for a baby or child to be 0 percentile in height or to not develop or grow. All the common stuff was ruled out.

You’re actually proving my point. You weren’t failed by an entire medical system, you were failed by one underperforming specialist.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

You’re actually proving my point. You weren’t failed by an entire medical system, you were failed by one underperforming specialist.

No, not exactly. His pediatrician blew me off this October when I expressed concern about my kids size. Multiple doctors have done this to me. The only person that expressed concern was his pediatrician from when he was a toddler and tried to help me by referring my kid to other drs.

I give a lot of grace to doctors and understand that medicine is not black and white. And again, I did not expect an exact diagnosis. But I did expect him to at least say “well your kid has a track record of poor growth, let’s do a hand X-ray”. Would have shown the disorder and delayed bone age. Hand x rays to assess growth is very standard and cheap.

The issue with this disorder is bone age is delayed and then accelerates, causing growth plates to fuse early and short stature. So this delayed diagnosis has real life consequences.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Yea so she isn't twilight shes awake because they need her to move on her own for them.

 

[I call shenanigans]

Yea so she isn't twilight shes awake because they need her to move on her own for them.
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That’s what twilight sedation is, and why it’s called conscious sedation. You are conscious and compliant with instructions, but at the same time you are not aware of what is being done. Even during simple, common procedures like colonoscopies and endoscopies, the patient is told to move into certain positions during the procedure, and they can follow instructions without any memory afterwards. Not sure about the talking (because whenever I’ve had it there’s been tubes down my throat), but maybe she could do that if the dose was lower. Brachioplasty is a lengthy surgery though, so no idea how they kept her under for so long. I gather they must have kept topping it up.

 

[Jizzrag]

According to someone on Reddit, Anna is wearing a 10x surgery gown

Link

Spoiler: Pictures

10x gown

 

[Buttpats and Candles]

That’s what twilight sedation is, and why it’s called conscious sedation. You are conscious and compliant with instructions, but at the same time you are not aware of what is being done. Even during simple, common procedures like colonoscopies and endoscopies, the patient is told to move into certain positions during the procedure, and they can follow instructions without any memory afterwards. Not sure about the talking (because whenever I’ve had it there’s been tubes down my throat), but maybe she could do that if the dose was lower. Brachioplasty is a lengthy surgery though, so no idea how they kept her under for so long. I gather they must have kept topping it up.

I’ve had colonoscopy without sedation (I was given nitrous oxide for the colonoscopy, but it wasn’t necessary). On another occasion I had a large muscle biopsy (thigh cut open and several cubes of my thigh muscle cut out for testing), which was done using only local anaesthetic and no other medication. During that surgery, I was able to look into my own leg muscle during surgery and I commented to the surgeon that my thigh muscle looked like fresh raw beef. I’ve also had dental work and fillings without local anaesthetic. I tend to find people are unable to cope with levels of discomfort/pain or medical procedures that seem just ”a bit unpleasant” to me.

The medical system regularly uses both twilight and general anaesthetic to make patients easy to manage, even where is not entirely necessary. I am not all that surprised that Anna has managed during the arm surgery with twilight anaesthetic. She will have almost no memory of the procedure whatsoever, so it will feel exactly like having had a general anaesthetic (from Anna’s perspective).

 

[Terfatron]

According to someone on Reddit, Anna is wearing a 10x surgery gown
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Link

Spoiler: Pictures

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10x gown

Tbh, and completely truthful, I didn't know anything came in 10x.

Wow... all I can think of

 

[Palmer Bangs]

Ok, I feel like a schizo for doing this. But behold the Anna timeline.

Spoiler: timeline

Thank you to all the posters who archive stuff.

Let's stick with Feb 5th and 10th as known dates from our insider. Those were the days Anna was giddy but lucid and recording the podcast that came out on the 12th (1 week). Her background is also brand new, and I can't match it up to her old house. Remember she's also been moving during this whole thing. She posted packing videos on Feb 3.

Medical Detectives podcast account posted on the 5th showing Anna in a blue shirt and in the hotel room. Anna uploaded the same setting in her "day before" video on Feb 10th. Because the podcasts are recorded at least a week before they air, this puts Anna in the hotel with the blue shirt on Jan 29. With the pre-op on Jan 30, she would have the surgery on Friday Jan 31st. This gives her 5 days of rest before interviewing the insider. That makes this line up with Anna telling the insider she had it done already, rather than surgery being on Feb 7/9.

So the easy and sane explanation is that the surgery was postponed a few weeks out because of the fires and Anna's recovery is way less brutal than we imagined (she said she was barely in pain I guess): she can record a podcast in 5 days, she's just a little loopy from the meds, and she is in a different hotel or airbnb (or new home?) taking it easy.

Or...

Hear me out.

Anna had already booked and paid for the plane tickets, hotel rooms, dog care, etc, for Jan 7th or 9th for the original surgery. She would be flying into town 1-2 days before the surgery appointment for the pre-op. She would already be in LA possibly Jan 5-7th.

The wildfires start on the 7th.

Well Scamron wants his money and Anna wants her surgery. Did they decide to go ahead and do it hush-hush while people were burning, and agreed to wait to post things because it wouldn't look so good? I couldn't find on Scamron's IG anything about shutting down the place temporarily.

Anna's Medical Detectives podcast also launches on Jan 8th. We know they prerecorded at least 3 episodes starting back in October. The 4th would be the hotel room + blue shirt ("the day before surgery"). This means that would've given Anna 4 weeks of rest while she manic-posts on Threads recovering, which we saw. I think they planned the podcast launch around Anna's surgery, and "got back on schedule" with our insider, confirmed recording the week before it was published.

The only posts that I think that were in real-time from Anna were on Jan 15th, defending the podcast because it started getting bad reviews. They kind of put some holes in the 2nd theory though because she lifts her arm above her head, which would be about a week after the surgery date in that case. It would explain why she was posting so much old content and stuff on Threads throughout January though.

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I spent way too much time thinking about this but I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Keep an eye out for recovery videos and where they take place. Anna's new place featured on the insider podcast (note the background and lamp. Can't match it up to her old (current) apartment):

 

[Potato Burrito]

Surprisingly, Anna did not eat or drink at all on camera

Why is this sentence in particular so funny.

I'm sure we're all indeed surprised to hear she didn't bust out several bags of "protein chips" and Smart Sweets throughout the recording session.

Newfag powerleveling

No one cares. Lurk moar, preferably while not under twilight sedation. Welcome to the Farms.

 

[Potatis Salad]

I spent way too much time thinking about this but I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Isn't it possible that we're seeing the surgery updates in more or less real time and the podcast guest/insider simply misunderstood Anna's claim about already having had the surgery?

Podcast guest says:

3. She 100 percent told me it was in January and specifically said it was the brachioplasty only, she didn’t mention anything else additional she had done at the same time

4. She only ever mentioned the brachioplasty

Anna has never claimed publicly that she was only having a brachioplasty, always that it'd be the brachioplasty plus more work on her calves. We've clearly seen her receiving the brachioplasty in her disgusting recent videos, but just upthread we also see her lying on her side with a drape behind her, positioned for calf work.

This complicated management of a fake timeline seems like more than Anna is capable of.

EDIT: See Syo's post below. No way in hell could Anna plan, while recovering from surgery sometime in January, to film a post for release on Valentines Day weeks in the future. This brachioplasty arc is happening in real time.

 

[Barbarella]

We let a poster of 9 years get away with a powerlevel because she’s been a good poster and her experience was directly relevant to the thread-she spoke to Anna and confirmed theories we had About her It’s still never great idea and could come back to bite elsewhere (hope not) but we do sometimes give grace.

That doesn’t mean, Newfags, that we want to hear about your pain tolerance or meat surgeries.

I thought Anna was fucking with the timeline again and posted a video if her first slurry operation. But I went back and checked and now I think she was awake. Maybe they gave her deeper sedation when they did her arms.

@GenociderSyo, I’d never argue with your timelines.

I’m looking forward to the Jacqueline Adan 2.0 arc starring Anna.

 

[No Thank You v 2.0]

but I'd like to hear your thoughts

Well, as I was thunking, I figured we could look at her face sores and see if they overlapped with what we know to be a realtime posting on or just before the 15th of January, and the day of surgery.

Spoiler: Close ups of Anna’s face, ew

How long do her sores last? Some look the same and some do not.

But then there are the curls in her hair. I am going to post the photos with your dates added, but in the order I believe they were actually created, due to the condition of her hair, which we know she rarely washes.

She was most definitely out of the Saint June apartment by February 1, as the SJ website had it listed as “Available Now” on that day, so we do have that.

Here are very tight curls, at the Saint June, talking about packing for her trip:


Looser curls, probably a day later, also at the Saint June.


Then packing the apartment, these pics could be from the same day or one day apart, I can’t really tell and it doesn’t make a difference, I don’t think:


Then the plane, where it’s clear she hasn’t washed her hair in days

you guys can speculate more on the specific dates, but I think that’s the order those pictures were taken.

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Scrumption]

Ilona did a piece on this latest surgery

I found her discussion of the Farms to be tasteful. Most Breadtubers will read here, take content without citing, and then shit on the Farms.

Threadtax


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Holy shit. Nobody wants to touch you, Anna! This is a sad Valentines, but it is also a cringe Valentines. Was she cracking a whip at Jon to get him to lay out these petals?

 

[blue gopher snakes]

I found her discussion of the Farms to be tasteful. Most Breadtubers will read here, take content without citing, and then shit on the Farms.

Threadtax
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Holy shit. Nobody wants to touch you, Anna! This is a sad Valentines, but it is also a cringe Valentines. Was she cracking a whip at Jon to get him to lay out these petals?

No, it’s not John. It’s whatever hired nurse she could afford to lute into that stank ass hotel room. Last time it was a sassy black lady, I don’t remember the name, but I’m wondering if she burned out that nurse enough that she wouldn’t take Anna‘s phone call when it was time for this ill conceived follow up surgery.

 

[Lvkester Endorser]

Look at the difference in size between the two and tell me that is not pinpoint pupils or constricted at all.

The pupils look normal considering she is sitting in a bright room. I've seen pupils that are literally as big as the tip of a pen, this ain't it.

 

[The Queen of Autists]

You must be pissing the color of syrup with so little water. Average women should drink 2.5-3L a day, more if you are deathfat living in a warm climate. Add exercise you need even more. Electrolyte depletion is only a problem if you never season food, or supplement magnesium and potassium. Deathfats get pleny of salt so they can drink more than 1.5L of water. Liquid is not water either. Tea, coffee and sodies dont count towards your daily liquid/hydration levels - some can even dehydrate and deplete electrolytes

So much improvement...I can see it. NOT. Her thighs look more insane now huge lipoed pockets with taut areas where the fat remains. She confirms this is all being done with her awake and benozed up.
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They look uglier but a lot of the time the body does look funky and ugly when you’re taking out big chunks of fat quickly. You can actually see they are at least removing something and not just lying to her. But yeah when you get up in age, weight loss can be ugly! More wrinkles and sagging and all sorts of stuff.