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David Hogg sounds like a pornstar name
Isn't this a good thing?
A mistake was made and instead of doubling down on it the mistake was quickly fixed.
This is coming from the people who think a mistake is the most humiliating thing ever and must be hidden at all costs.
 
Trump should impose a 100% tariffs on food imports
you do know the US is a net food producer. Anything imported can be made and grown here. We'll just have sparkling avocados instead of Mexican avocados.
>poultry industry culls chickens due to bird flu
>suddenly egg prices are Trump's fault
>this is despite all the inflation that happened under Biden's handlers' (and their agencies') watch
>this totally represents the bigger picture of the American economy

Has it ever occurred to these people that they're actually really fucking stupid?
No, they're so smug to never once question their beliefs or know the relationship between cause and effect.

Two more fights happened not long after the first one

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Three total fights happened within the first nine seconds of the match.
Did we win though?
 
The fasces is a core component of American iconography:
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The fasces doesn't signify a conquering emperor. It signifies the strength of many bound together as one. It's especially appropriate on the Lincoln memorial because a core belief of the Union side as expressed by Lincoln was that America's strength came from the union formed by the 1783 Constitution, and a loose confederation of independent states would be easy pickings for the hungry empires of Europe.

The fasces fell out of favor after 1945 for obvious reasons, although the Germans didn't care for it, so we didn't tear it down at least.
The fasces is a Roman symbol, so the USA and Mussolini’s Italy had their own reasons for appropriating it. The American founding fathers were deeply influenced by the Roman civilization in setting up their democratic system, and Mussolini wanted to larp as a Roman emperor.
 
Even beyond this, another large chunk is the early Millenial to Boomer gens. Most don’t use the internet past FaceBook and are completely within their own bubble of the 80s-00s as media has been locked in since 08. Weirdly, I think Synthcool, a hardcore lefty, put it best when he talked about the generation that still watches SNL and says it’s funny because they make fun of both sides. These people are completely lost in the modern world as they are stuck in a nonstop loop of Fox Republican news, CNN balanced news, MNSBC Liberal news, Stewart/Colbert/Kimmel/Bee/(insert late night host) is a genius who really points out the flaws of (2000s) Right-wing ideology.

This is so true. I was mostly talking about the online leftist cohort, but there's another (larger) group of older libs who simply haven't had a software update since the 2000s.

A boomer acquaintance fits this category, he was recently boasting about how Trump's base was "deserting him" because he'd seen the National Review criticizing something or other. Absolutely no concept that National Review is a neocon establishment rag that was never for Trump. In his head, the "right wing" is still a monolithic bloc of conservative Christians in suits trying to put prayer back in schools.

And the weirdest thing is that these aren't people who ignore politics (which is something I can admire). They think of themselves as politically informed and many of them talk about Trump more than anyone here does, but they somehow still manage to live in a 2008 bubble. It's uncanny.
 

*two fights*
Trump should sign an EO to rename ice hockey, "competitive ice boxing."

Audible boos for the US National Anthem in Montreal before the USA-Canada 4 Nations Face-Off hockey game

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If only they showed that much spite toward the jeets (and Trudeau).

This is in Montreal. Bombing Quebec would likely get a grateful Canada to cede the prairie territories.
Pourquoi pas les deux?
 
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A couple ice hockey players from the United States and Canada got into a fight with one another right after the game started.

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It all happened after a large percentage of the sellout crowd at a center in Canada loudly booed the U.S. anthem. A number of fans also booed every time a U.S. player was shown on video screens during pregame warmups.
The hilariously fake patriotism is so unbelievably astroturfed that it needs to be studied for generations. Literally the only thing Canada had going for them, the one thing they were holding onto by the tips of their fingers, was 'being nice' and they've thrown that away like so many paper coffee cups in service to... to what, actually? A government that's prorogued? A majority party with a resigned leader that still makes decisions? An economy that's slowly replacing them with foreigners? What the fuck did Canada even manage to gain from their attempt at gay chicken because, as far as I can tell, all the country managed to do was make itself like even more petulant and feeble.
Yet nobody will disagree that he DID fight the civil war, he WON it, and now he sits on a marble throne for all time.
>create a Civil War
>spend most of it getting your ass kicked
>completely upend the ability of all states to govern themselves
>be called a hero for all this and get a monument
 
The hilariously fake patriotism is so unbelievably astroturfed that it needs to be studied for generations. Literally the only thing Canada had going for them, the one thing they were holding onto by the tips of their fingers, was 'being nice' and they've thrown that away like so many paper coffee cups in service to... to what, actually? A government that's prorogued? A majority party with a resigned leader that still makes decisions? An economy that's slowly replacing them with foreigners? What the fuck did Canada even manage to gain from their attempt at gay chicken because, as far as I can tell, all the country managed to do was make itself like even more petulant and feeble.
Canada's biggest cultural contributions were children's TV shows, the most incompetent police force in the Anglosphere (The mounties), and maple syrup.
 
This is so true. I was mostly talking about the online leftist cohort, but there's another (larger) group of older libs who simply haven't had a software update since the 2000s.

A boomer acquaintance fits this category, he was recently boasting about how Trump's base was "deserting him" because he'd seen the National Review criticizing something or other. Absolutely no concept that National Review is a neocon establishment rag that was never for Trump. In his head, the "right wing" is still a monolithic bloc of conservative Christians in suits trying to put prayer back in schools.

And the weirdest thing is that these aren't people who ignore politics (which is something I can admire). They think of themselves as politically informed and many of them talk about Trump more than anyone here does, but they somehow still manage to live in a 2008 bubble. It's uncanny.
it's not just them, even Team Harris/Biden were clearly under the impression they were fighting the Moral Majority/Neo Con GOP of 1996 or so
I really don't get how they haven't woken up to the realities of modern shitpost conservatism but I hope they continue to miss the memo
 
This is so true. I was mostly talking about the online leftist cohort, but there's another (larger) group of older libs who simply haven't had a software update since the 2000s.

A boomer acquaintance fits this category, he was recently boasting about how Trump's base was "deserting him" because he'd seen the National Review criticizing something or other. Absolutely no concept that National Review is a neocon establishment rag that was never for Trump. In his head, the "right wing" is still a monolithic bloc of conservative Christians in suits trying to put prayer back in schools.

And the weirdest thing is that these aren't people who ignore politics (which is something I can admire). They think of themselves as politically informed and many of them talk about Trump more than anyone here does, but they somehow still manage to live in a 2008 bubble. It's uncanny.
This is a good example and good point. I have the same experience with some folks IRL. I think one of the things that happened is that a lot of these people just completely counted Trump out after 2020. After that, even if they kept up with politics, they didn't keep up with Trump news (outside of what was shoved down their throats like J6 stuff). The speed at which Trump came back, and then won, and has been changing things, is honestly just so rapid that I think it will take people who weren't paying much attention some time to catch up. Things like if the schools improve due to choice, our trade deficit, our debt, MAHA, etc. It still remains to be seen, but if these bear fruit then I think you could see a further shift to the MAGA camp.

One other observation. I feel the same about people who ignored politics, I can respect that, most of the time it's better to focus on things in your life that you're in direct control of. But, I send them some articles about the USAID stuff and how our tax money has been spent and they snap into politics because it's just so outrageous. Not deeply into politics, but at least a bit where they start to look at local elections to figure out who they want to vote for besides just the D or R next to the name.
 
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