Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Rubick]

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That has to have been the most dumbest post i have read here for some time. But this.

They only have iirc 3 subs that are capable of launching submerged - they are working to build more but its been slow. The rest must surface to fire, which means they need surface cover. And that is ignoring the US has, active, over two attack subs per Russian boomer.

The only ballistic missiles subs that had to surface to launch were the first gen ones designed in the fucking 1950's. And speaking of launching submerged. Soviets/Russians mostly(besides RSM-52* and RSM-56 BM's) used the wet launch submerged method vs the dry launch submerged method. And thus could launch from deeper depths actually.

Also the current Russia SSBN Project 955 been pretty much put into services since 2020 at a Soviet rate.


*RMS-52 there is a good indication could have been launched both dry or wet submerged.

 

[warhammerautist]

That has to have been the most dumbest post i have read here for some time. But this.



The only ballistic missiles subs that had to surface to launch were the first gen ones designed in the fucking 1950's. And speaking of launching submerged. Soviets/Russians mostly(besides RSM-52* and RSM-56 BM's) used the wet launch submerged method vs the dry launch submerged method. And thus could launch from deeper depths actually.

Also the current Russia SSBN Project 955 been pretty much put into services since 2020 at a Soviet rate.


*RMS-52 there is a good indication could have been launched both dry or wet submerged.

I didnt want to quote the name of who it was that said that to go embarrass him here but it's an example that some people need to do full research at least on what nukes Russia has before implying that they don't have that many operational to strike the US which is completely false.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I didnt want to quote the name of who it was that said that to go embarrass him here but it's an example that some people need to do full research at least on what nukes Russia has before implying that they don't have that many operational to strike the US which is completely false.

Well its really obvious he knows his nation, the United States, is presently in no position to match the Russian Federation (or to use their jargon, prevail in a peer conflict), so they compensate by making outrageous claims, based on zero evidence, that Russia's nukes don't work, their nuclear arsenal is far smaller than ours and that their submarines are subpar, etc. It's very similar to the way adolescent boys brag about their imaginary huge penis, or claim they banged dozens of girls when they can barely speak to their female classmates without stammering. Of course most boys grow out of this behavior by the time they reach high school but this conflict sems to have elicited regression in certain males, with Russia's military seeming to have caused feelings of male inadequacy in a strange parasocial way. Women scared of Russia will just screech and insult your penis/boob size because usually they have no idea what you're talking about but you made them mad and that's what truly matters.

Normally one would want to carefully examine where we're deficient and demand improvement from one's elected officials and what better time than right now, when Trump is ferreting out waste and sloth, and is about to audit the Pentagon? But no, let's pretend everything is great, Russia is weak because it makes me feels good, and maybe my MIC stock won't crash and burn after Elon is done going through DoD. And it may be true goblino penises are bigger than zigger penises and Slav women really don't have the largest boobs, Murrican women do and we have the plastic surgeons to prove it. Whatever helps them sleep at night, you know?

Going back on topic: Rumor has it Germany walked out of the meeting in Paris and Scholz went home, outright refusing the British plan. Only France, the UK and Sweden are onboard and then only with US support from our bases (Poland and Romania). The US already said there'd be no Article 5 protection for any volunteer NATO forces, stating they're on their own if the Russians decides to spam drones on their positions. They'll be stationed in Lvow and play peacekeeper there while THD continues on the Eastern Front is my guess, if it even happens.

It is truly over. The US and Russia are hashing out land grabs and resource deals as well as normalizing ties. The devil is in the details and we won't have a rough idea until Easter-April 20th. Meanwhile Zelensky is having a fit, encouraged by his yurotrash friends; maybe they can dig up an Otto Skorzeny clone to "liberate" Zelensky if the RuAF gets too close.

 

[Audit]

It is truly over. The US and Russia are hashing out land grabs and resource deals as well as normalizing ties.

Finally, it is Poland's hour of greatness. Only Poland can play ultimate spoiler by pre-emptively invading Ukraine from the west and denying DC its spoils. 'course, this is all a fantasy. Poland only knows how to get cucked and invaded by its neighbors. They'd rather scrub toilets in London than seize territory for more potato fields.

 

[Fapcop]

Can wave off, redirect, or otherwise position itself to better strike a fixed target. The current crop of US guided artillery munitions can basically hit the exact grid point you want them to, but its only as precise as the intel that chose that square.

I think the difference is jamming. American guided artillery shells rely on GPS and can be jammed. Russian Krasnopol shells can’t be jammed but are laser guided so you need someone to paint the target.

Drones can be jammed. Fiber optic drones can’t be jammed but are limited in range.

Seems like this is made to cover those capability gaps.

 

[Radola Gajda]

At least 50 Russian military drones hit targets in Kiev today. Civilian facilities were damaged as a result of enemy air defense operationso Explosions were reported in Cherkasy and Kirovograd regions.

 

[Spaztic]

MAD FTW subsea launch MIRVs from 12 points on the globe??? Yeh

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Finally, it is Poland's hour of greatness. Only Poland can play ultimate spoiler by pre-emptively invading Ukraine from the west and denying DC its spoils. 'course, this is all a fantasy. Poland only knows how to get cucked and invaded by its neighbors. They'd rather scrub toilets in London than seize territory for more potato fields.

The porks are already scoping out bolt holes in Wroclaw, and Poland big mad.

Braun is the man who took a fire extinguisher to a menorah.

 

[Dr. Livesey]

Finally, it is Poland's hour of greatness. Only Poland can play ultimate spoiler by pre-emptively invading Ukraine from the west and denying DC its spoils.

In Poland we trust, go go go
I respect poles for their consistency. For centuries they hated each and every one of their neighbors. Not like west eurofags who change their tune every decade.
But now is the time to hate ukraine a little more than they hate russia. Poland has an army, ukraine is weak, russia can not do anything to them - prime invasion hour

 

[Fapcop]

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The distance from Moscow to Washington is 7,822.01 km according to google.
1. topol-M has a 11,000km range on a mobile launcher.
2. Yars-M replaced the topol.
3. Cedar missiles have are replacing yars.
They don't necessarily have to get close to Alaska to hit the west coast.
4. RS-26 launches the avangard at a 100km altitude to get to the US.
5. 8 Borei class submarines that can carry 16 Bulava missiles each.
6. 4 yasen class submarines that can use onyx-m or zircons which are nuclear warhead capable enough to carry 32 each.
7. Molodets missiles from trains can target US with enough range.

They are pending with more submarine projects, sarmat, burevestnik and poseidon nuclear options, and Putin stated that are classified projects that he cant publicly reveal like last time.

If the US does not want to get involved like they are implying that is good news. Poland and Germany told starmer to fuck off but I am still waiting for the french to decide if they will be suicidal as well or not with the UK because the silence does not give a yes or no answer. Some nuclear missile launches from UK submarines have failed but those that are successful are still a threat to Russia. The problem right now is the UK getting its ass kicked with Ukraine and they resort to threat of nukes immediately which will make the British empire look like a joke now than what it used to be before to the world.
France and the UK I think are the only 2 EU countries with long range nukes so a pending response from France might also matter. Best Russia can do is continue improving the S-400 modifications and continue with the S-500 and A-235 systems defense systems.

Whoever wrote that screed is a goddamn moron who doesn’t the first thing about Russian nuclear capabilities. Nor about nuclear missiles in general.

Surfacing to launch missiles from submarines haven’t been a thing in decades.

(And Russian subs btw, have launched their entire missile complement on at least one occasion. Submerged of course. That’s at least twelve missiles each armed with multiple MIRVs and decoys . From ONE submachine.)

As others have pointed out, Russia has no shortage of road mobile missiles that can reach the US. (I do believe the train launched Molodets missiles have been retired though.)

What’s special about the Sarmat missile (Not the Satan-2), isn’t of course that it’s “the only missile that can reach mainland US”. What’s special about it, is that it’s the only missile that can reach the US UNDETECTED.

All American early warning radars are pointed towards the north pole, since that is the shortest route for ballistic missiles.

The Sarmat has the range to circumnavigate the globe and fly over the South Pole however. Where no early warning systems are operating.


In other news from Ukraine: Zelensky is desperately trying to delay and stall any real kind of bookkeeping of WHERE all the money and weapons have gone.



The coming audits should make for very interesting reading.

It’s notable btw what has come out so far. For example, like the fact that because of Ukrainians withdrawals, Russia now has MORE American Javelin missiles than the U.K. has in their inventory.

That would be notable in itself. But if that’s just the tip of the stolen, misplaced and “lost” iceberg, we should be in for some fun reading.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

A letter from a Ukrainian soldier
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They're trying everything to get us to care again.

My facebook feed is filled with posts from various Ukrainian embassies with a picture of a map of Ukraine and it's 2014 land mass in km2.
Someone's activated their social media advertising budget...

 

[IKOL]

Is that a good thing, geopolitically speaking?

Yes and no.
At least I can provide my artist services again via PayPal and Patreon.
Some could say "but IKOL there's Boosty on yer side of the~" YES IT IS, yet I'm not getting anything from it. At all

 

[Betonhaus]

It’s notable btw what has come out so far. For example, like the fact that because of Ukrainians withdrawals, Russia now has MORE American Javelin missiles than the U.K. has in their inventory.

That would be notable in itself. But if that’s just the tip of the stolen, misplaced and “lost” iceberg, we should be in for some fun reading

Would a peace agreement include Russia returning all functional American weaponry to America?

And about the drones, how likely is it that Russia could combine it's drone tech with Chinese AI development to make some truly autonomous weaponry?

 

[Cuckoman]

And about the drones, how likely is it that Russia could combine it's drone tech with Chinese AI development to make some truly autonomous weaponry?

There is about a 100% probability that such a program is already under field testing in some remote chineese mountain village since many months.

A real game changer would be missiles or glide bombs that navigated by optics and AI image processing.
Instead of navigating it by GPS or similar, you pre-load it with satellite images of the target and have a camera and AI to process and home in to the target.
Same accuracy as having someone paint the target with a laser but without having to have someone actually at the location.

Just send it in the general direction of the target and let ai and image processing take over.

 

[Fapcop]

Well, well… It seems that a lot of dirty laundry is starting to come out:

https://open.substack.com/pub/thegrayzone/p/secret-terror-blueprints-for-us-nsc?r=1qxhmp&utm_medium=ios

Terror operations on Russian ground. Hey does that ring a bell? Some central Asians and a concert?

 

[All Smiles]

Are Ukrainians tired of going extinct for a Jewish comedian yet?

No? Alright, I'll check back in a week.

 

[Metatron]

Are Ukrainians tired of going extinct for a Jewish comedian yet?

No? Alright, I'll check back in a week.

"But he played the piano with his bris'd schlong, he has to be the good guy"

Also not sure if mentioned yet in this thread (if so, I'll take the clocks) but western Europe (and polska) came up with an alliance to somehow prevent themselves and oinkland from being ignored by the US and Russia during negotiations.

Ok so what? Well the name they chose for this alliance:

Weimar+.

Kurwa. It's ultra on the nose and sounds like the worst subscription name ever.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Well, well… It seems that a lot of dirty laundry is starting to come out:

https://open.substack.com/pub/thegrayzone/p/secret-terror-blueprints-for-us-nsc?r=1qxhmp&utm_medium=ios

Terror operations on Russian ground. Hey does that ring a bell? Some central Asians and a concert?

This dude looks like a jihadi for the right to molest kids and suck cock

 

[Procopius]

The coming audits should make for very interesting reading.

So who you gonna ask?

Don't ever change

A suggestion that a major breakthrough may be happening in the South. I don't know the land at all, so for me it's become a series of "yesterday Russian captured a small village I've never heard of, today they captured another small village I've never heard of, tomorrow ..."

More old men dying of hypothermia in the snow.

 

[TexWiller]

I'd be skeptical of what BRICS News posts. They're just some rando with a Twitter account.

That being said, a complete withdrawal of sanctions would probably be the biggest defeat of the West this century. Sanctions were supposed to be the economic equivalent of a nuke, but now they look more like a popgun.

Sanctions were always a very blunt weapon that cut mostly those who wield them.

There is about a 100% probability that such a program is already under field testing in some remote chineese mountain village since many months.

A real game changer would be missiles or glide bombs that navigated by optics and AI image processing.
Instead of navigating it by GPS or similar, you pre-load it with satellite images of the target and have a camera and AI to process and home in to the target.
Same accuracy as having someone paint the target with a laser but without having to have someone actually at the location.

Just send it in the general direction of the target and let ai and image processing take over.

Actually i believe this tech has been around for some time. in a very primitive form, something like 12 years ago i had a "autopilot" for model helicopters that would hover on a spot using a camera underneath. it was dirt cheap too.
im pretty sure optical recognition is already in some weapons. no need to invoke AI. is just image processing. cameras are able to find faces and even smiles since long time.

extensively used also in industrial processes.
it can only get better and better. but still only computers so pretty stupid. plus there is the issue that not alwat

GPS guidance has been extensively used because is very accurate and very cheap. that those investing billions in it could not expect it being jammed is really weird. a friend who works for a military equipment outfit was working at gps and mobile network jammers so is not that they didnt know...
unfortunately we all now depend a lot on GPS for a lot of things.