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While a massive chunk of their response is just "Elon Man Did It, Therefore It Bad", another significant chunk is that if this is an ongoing thing it ends the most disgusting practice they do on an individual and systemic level.


The number of them who decide to just not work for up to a -month at a time- and still get -paid- is frankly disgusting.

Now, I am not talking about duley awarded vacation hours. No, I am talking "Joe didnt come in to work today, or anytime in the last month, but we logged him as here. Oh well, must have been a mental health break".


It is shockingly common.
I've been thumbing through the fednews and other reddits. It's mostly to confirm my own biases, to be fair, but the stuff they are putting out is confirming the feel I've gotten for years from the fedboys.

They genuinely feel they're entitled to their paychecks, their jobs, their careers. And they feel their coworkers are all similarly entitled to THEIR paychecks/jobs/careers. To their lives as the New American Nobility. It's an amazing thing to watch. They are so entrenched in their epistemic closure that they literally can't even grasp that outsiders might look unkindly at them. That these things they are freaking out about now are things every other human on the planet has to worry about every single day.

Layoffs? Risking being fired? Being expected to show up to the office every single day and provide some benefit to the organization? None of that should apply to them. They provide benefit just for existing. They are the beautiful ones, and them gracing us with their presence is benefit enough.

They do not, on a fundamental level, see themselves as being the same caste of people as the rest of us. It's like reading a fantasy novel and suddenly seeing people have to deal with the entitled firstborn son of a Duke or something.

I've often referred to the Email Caste vs the Forgotten Caste in America, citing that wonderful blog post, The Decisive Battle.

tl;dr: The email caste are those who can do their jobs by email. They could vanish off the face of the world for 6 months before we would ever even notice they were gone. Your lawyers, your gender studies professors, your lobbyists, your journalists, et cetera. The Forgotten Caste are the rest of us, the people who have basically forgotten they have political power because they entrusted the Email caste to run things while they kept things running. Your Pilots, your Truck Drivers, your Retail Workers. People who if they fell off the face of the world for 6 hours would cause civilization as we know it to end. (To wit: Truckers stop bringing food to New York City, by 6 days you'd have food riots which would spark race wars that would NEVER end. They would literally mobilize the national guard to drive trucks to break the strike if they had to.)

2020 was the Email Caste using every bit of hard and soft power they had to defeat MAGA, which they correctly saw as Trump tapping into the Forgotten Caste. They won the battle, but lost the war, as the Forgotten caste has woken up. "Fuck Joe Biden" and all that.

"It occurs to us that you are completely reliant on us to feed yourselves. Would you like to talk again about how our beliefs in how things should be ran don't matter and we should go away and stop bothering you before you have us arrested and our kids taken away?"

We've seen since then that this is only continuing to simmer. The email caste has had massive layoffs -- your tiktok tech girlies playing in adult day cares for $300,000 a year are getting laid off en mass, and there are no jobs for them to jump to. The forgotten caste voted Trump back into power with a red wave that no one expected. A history redefining win. And now Trump is taking a bonesaw to the email caste, tearing out illicit funding and email caste jobs programs like DEI at it's roots.

But there's another caste. One that was supposed to be beyond the petty squabbles of the email caste and the forgotten caste. The American Nobility. The Fedboy. A parasite caste feeding off the email caste and the forgotten caste. Nothing we were supposed to do out here in the shadow of their ivory towers were meant to affect them. It was unthinkable that the plebians could cause any disruption in their lives. They even arranged it so the President couldn't communicate with everyone without going through a legion of 40,000+ HR workers to subvert, pervert, and prevent anything he wanted to communicate.

And faced with the mere idea that Trump might force them out of the ivory towers to face the reality that mere mortals have to deal with every day... they're having quite a glorious meltdown.
 
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Musk wants them in by midnight on Monday. How is he going to know? Is he actually reading through millions of emails? What happens when the OPM servers inevitably crash?
It’s too bad Elon doesn’t have some kind of AI that could read millions of emails and parse them for genuine answers vs. shitposts vs. didn’t respond.
 
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the vast majority of the rest of the internet being filled to the gills with leftists and moderated by leftists.
Yeah, my other big gay post went into that without really mentioning specific politics too much, but what I like about this site is it doesn't matter which way around things are. And there are right now parts of the site that are a monoculture in the other direction; but I've made posts that don't get negrated in TES and the Musk thread.
tl;dr: The email caste are those who can do their jobs by email. They could vanish off the face of the world for 6 months before we would ever even notice they were gone. Your lawyers, your gender studies professors, your lobbyists, your journalists, et cetera. The Forgotten Caste are the rest of us, the people who have basically forgotten they have political power because they entrusted the Email caste to run things while they kept things running. Your Pilots, your Truck Drivers, your Retail Workers. People who if they fell off the face of the world for 6 hours would cause civilization as we know it to end. (To wit: Truckers stop bringing food to New York City, by 6 days you'd have food riots which would spark race wars that would NEVER end. They would literally mobilize the national guard to drive trucks to break the strike if they had to.)
Another component of this is that (relatively) unskilled immigration is a way to reduce the power of this forgotten caste and force them into worse and worse deals, or out of the labor market entirely.
 
Let them bellyache and moan about things that they have no control over and will never be able to change.

Honestly, this is the one thing that's kept me sane in dealing with people out in the world whenever I hear them seething about something Orange Man is doing. I know I can't change their mind. All I can do is just smile and nod and pretend like I understand. Lord knows, I'm sick of losing people I'm close with by autistically fedposting IRL, so I've reigned myself in. As much of a sperg I've been personally on this site, it has actually helped me in reigning my shit in when I'm dealing with regular normal folk who just ignore everything online.
 
Another component of this is that (relatively) unskilled immigration is a way to reduce the power of this forgotten caste and force them into worse and worse deals, or out of the labor market entirely.
Correct. For a good example of this, look at Canada mass importing Jeet truck drivers specifically so they have a slave caste that will never rebel that will prevent the truckers from having any political power, ever. Because what are the truckers going to do, go on strike? Oh well. Poojib and his 8 cousins will do your job almost as well, and at only a few mass casualty events a year. Suck on that, plebians!
 
Kamala’s team offered to do a one hour interview limited to certain topics. Rogan rightfully said no thanks.
Just to be clear I think this shifts the decision to Rogan a bit much.
Rogan reached out to her and gave her the same stipulations as every single guest. Come to the studio, multiple hours, no pre-arranged topics or questions, just a friendly longform chat.
She was the one to demand changes to the same format he's had for years and the same stipulations for every single guest.
Different studio, topics off limits, only an hour.
By refusing to play by the same rules as everyone else does when it comes to Rogan she was the one who turned down the opportunity. Not him.
He's been open that he would have liked to have her on, but she demanded special treatment which he's never given and wasn't going to start.
Everyone who ever wants to get on Rogan knows you don't fuck with his format. Ever. Doesn't matter who you are.
 
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That's an incredibly disingenuous way to say what happened.
And it would have been such an easy win for her to if she had just bit the bullet, and gone. Like come on now, Rogan was never going to "ambush" her. He's a weed smoking hippy. She's a fucking idiot.
 
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I can see why your friend would nervous. Picture it from his side. A senior advisor to the President, presumably in the midst of a ketamine high, has the OPM send out an email to every federal employee to list five things they did over the week or be fired.

This is not going through the chain of command, so employees should not respond to it. In fact, several agencies already sent out an email to not respond to the OPM email.

Musk wants them in by midnight on Monday. How is he going to know? Is he actually reading through millions of emails? What happens when the OPM servers inevitably crash?

There has been chaos in the federal government for the past month. I can see why federal employees would be worried. Musk could see a tweet from X user Chadius “Killallniggers” IV which says the Department of Energy is woke and comes to the conclusion that the entire department must be eliminated.

Wouldn’t you be nervous if your boss handed over management decisions to a white skinned stereotype of a nigger?
I actually agree with this for the most part but important to note is that I don't care about fedniggers at all because of what they've done (and not done) the last many years and seeing them suffer brings me joy. I think Elon is a grade A retard who has no idea what he's doing, but that puts him on par with most of the people he's firing.
 
Why do you keep highlighting what you say in yellow? I don't know if you think this makes your messages look cool, but it has the opposite effect thinking of someone sitting down and manually going back over their post and highlighting all the little sections manually in the editor.
Easier to read with the default font. Someone suggested doing it when bolding text and I think it does help. Am I wrong?
 
doubtful, uk doesn't have the MUH NATHSEES self-guiltrip, but they awfully quick picked up the general white guilt version for some reason.
Imperial guilt. English self-debasement isn't even a particularly new thing (see attachment).
31 -was- their floor. And I said at the time if they ever dropped below 24ish that they would enter a death spiral. Welp. ..
I suspect that what we're seeing is a certain segment of the Dem base freaking out that the party isn't doing literally everything in their power (up to and including public assassination attempts by members of Congress) to Make The Bad Man Go Away.
 

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Easier to read with the default font. Someone suggested doing it when bolding text and I think it does help. Am I wrong?
I've seen it spreading since that post, I've done it once I believe. But I think other than the color he's just saying the effort to go through and highlight parts of your post for emphasis makes you look gay. Personally I feel if you're going to write something that long, any indication that you put some thought into the formatting makes it feel less like it'll be a waste of time to read.
 
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