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HootersMcBoobies said:
In a parallel timeline, this is how Mozilla starts its purge. The conference is the means by which it rounds up, jails and arrested dissidents. Secretly the based insurgency within Mozilla make an agreement with the Zambian government to execute all gay/trans attendees.

Mozilla then restores Brendan Eich as leader of Mozilla. Eich apologizes to the world for JavaScript, and vows to Make Firefox Great Again! Within 4 years, Mozilla regains 15% of market share, FirefoxOS is brought back and is the default OS on an up and coming TCL/Hisene competitor (fully unlockable and hackable) that grows large enough to make it to the shelves of Wal-Market. 🥳🥂
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Your mind is a happy place and I've enjoyed my visit to it. FirefoxOS - there's a blast from the past. "Eich apologising for Javascript" made me laugh out loud.

And as a final touch, I can only say that it makes me smile to see a message saying: "HootersMcBoobies has replied to your post".
 
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HootersMcBoobies said:
In a parallel timeline, this is how Mozilla starts its purge. The conference is the means by which it rounds up, jails and arrested dissidents. Secretly the based insurgency within Mozilla make an agreement with the Zambian government to execute all gay/trans attendees.

Mozilla then restores Brendan Eich as leader of Mozilla. Eich apologizes to the world for JavaScript, and vows to Make Firefox Great Again! Within 4 years, Mozilla regains 15% of market share, FirefoxOS is brought back and is the default OS on an up and coming TCL/Hisene competitor (fully unlockable and hackable) that grows large enough to make it to the shelves of Wal-Market. 🥳🥂
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And they'll make a XUL 2 and bring back all the old extensions, and rename the android app back to Fennec, and bring back the Australis UI and the old logo, and
 
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Surprised no one has updated this thread with the recent shenanigans. For those who haven't kept up, Mozilla changed their terms of service recently to say they get rights to everything you type in a web browser. They also removed a paragraph about not selling your personal data.


Lunduke gets a few things wrong in this one. When it comes to the code-of-conduct type stuff, the wording includes Mozilla Services. So this is probably their sync/forums/pocket/etc. But the original privacy stuff is still insane and Lunduke covered the damaged control from it:


I'm not a big fan of Lunduke, so I'm glad Rossman also covered this. Unlike Lunduke, Rossman also covered this and suggests a solution: use Librewolf (which has been my browser for a while).


He also covers how this could be a case of compliance with California privacy laws and bad communication from Mozilla.

For another laugh, Mozilla's Discourse forums were in read-only mode for a while, due to failure to pay their hosting fees:

Archive: https://archive.is/FMKq1

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I din't notice the mozilla thread was a thong or forgot about it. Made a thread on this.

HootersMcBoobies said:
I'm not a big fan of Lunduke, so I'm glad Rossman also covered this.
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It is so so fun watching Lunduke break a story to the youtubes, then a dozen of other youtubers shortly after start covering it if convenient (looking at your Brody) but this time the fuckup was so massive it was impressive watching the Hackernews => Lunduke => Other YTbers => Explosion pipeline unfold so fast.
 
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I do not give a shit about the ideological alignments of the browser developers. I just want a decent browser that lets me install adblockers and is not constantly trying to spy on me or sell my data to advertisers/government surveillance agencies. Firefox used to be the browser you went to for stuff like privacy because of how you could harden it using various add-ons and tweaks, but not anymore after this latest development.

What I do not understand is why Mozilla did not take advantage of people's dissatisfaction with Google and Microsoft's proclivities for data-mining, AI slop, and surveillance to market itself as as a champion of privacy, and support itself through donation targets like Wikipedia does? Now Mozilla has shot itself in the ass as the main userbase for Firefox and its various forks were people who prioritized privacy over ads.
 
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Hepativore said:
What I do not understand is why Mozilla did not take advantage of people's dissatisfaction with Google and Microsoft's proclivities for data-mining, AI slop, and surveillance to market itself as as a champion of privacy, and support itself through donation targets like Wikipedia does? Now Mozilla has shot itself in the ass as the main userbase for Firefox and its various forks were people who prioritized privacy over ads.
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Nearly all of Mozilla's funding comes from Google. My completely baseless (but entirely accurate) speculation is that the under the table condition for that funding is that it can be used for anything except actually improving the browser.
 
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Louis covered it well, but if you want a line-by-line breakdown of the changes, these two go through a visual diff of the ToS. I personally find that format more helpful, also the tone is more mocking than outrage.

 
Hepativore said:
I do not give a shit about the ideological alignments of the browser developers. I just want a decent browser that lets me install adblockers and is not constantly trying to spy on me or sell my data to advertisers/government surveillance agencies. Firefox used to be the browser you went to for stuff like privacy because of how you could harden it using various add-ons and tweaks, but not anymore after this latest development.
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Arkenfox user profile on the paranoid setting will take you most of the way there. If you aren't using any of their extra bullshit like Pocket/Sync, what is there to sell exactly? You can even go the extra mile and blackhole anything going out to *.mozilla.com on your router/firewall. So long as Firefox still has Manifest v2, it's a decent trade over Chromium derivatives.
 
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Day of the Cope said:
Yeah, about that.
If you wanna use a Firefox Fork that's actually maintained by people who aren't complete fuckheads, use the Mullvad Browser.
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I've tried to use the Mullvad Browser before but the only thing that puts me off from it is the fact that I can't assign sites to keep cookies for. This was also opened up as an issue on it's own Github: https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/29

I'd absolutely use it if I was able to have persistent cookies for specific sites but right now, it's a no-go for me. Also, Librewolf being surrounded with all that dumb tranny shit would only bother me if it somehow manages to make it's way into the browser itself. I'm okay with faggots being their faggot selves as long as they don't pozz their shit with it.
 
So.. now that chrome nuked ublock and such evil extensions as "rid youtube of distraction and doomscroll-enabling features", is firefox not a good alternative?
 
I turned it back on and it seems to work fine.

Dumbasses also said that Sadpanda was incompatible, too. How bout you suck a fat one Google.
 
Day of the Cope said:
If you wanna use a Firefox Fork that's actually maintained by people who aren't complete fuckheads, use the Mullvad Browser.
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It's shame but I quite liked librewolf so this makes me sad. I'm halfway considering switching to brave and being done with it but I like my extension setup. I'll take a look at mullvad browser soon.
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I don't really care about the internal political situation of a project so long as it works. I've heard people mention Mullvad before, but call me skeptical about a browser made as an advert for a VPN company.

Most people don't even understand that VPNs are just a proxy to change your point of presence. The only VPN you can trust is the one you run yourself (Dante or Tinyproxy on a hosted VM plus the FoxyProxy plugin). Even then, AWS/DigitalOcean/Vultr can still be spying on your VM. They're less likely to than a dedicated VPN provider who since people are specifically using them for obfuscating their traffic.

I use this Spyware Watchdog catalog someone made on Neocities: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/

Librewolf still contacts some Mozilla services for push notifications and checking if you have Internet, but overall it's phoning home is way lower than Brave. I've also heard good things about IceCat and it seems to be good about not phoning home, but I haven't tried it personally.
 
HootersMcBoobies said:
I've heard people mention Mullvad before, but call me skeptical about a browser made as an advert for a VPN company.
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Well, the other option is a bunch of anonymous randos without any sort of "About Us" section which should make you just as, if not more, sceptical.
HootersMcBoobies said:
Most people don't even understand that VPNs are just a proxy to change your point of presence.
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Yes, I am painfully aware that a VPN can just as easily track you. To Mullvad's credit, they are the only VPN I know of that lets you pay with cash. That said, yeah, RYO is usually the best option.
HootersMcBoobies said:
I've also heard good things about IceCat and it seems to be good about not phoning home, but I haven't tried it personally.
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The last update for GNU IceCat was June 2024, they don't distribute binaries, and their git repo is fucking dead. So, have fun with that.
 
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HootersMcBoobies said:
I've heard people mention Mullvad before, but call me skeptical about a browser made as an advert for a VPN company.
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It's a collaboration between Mullvad and the TOR Project, not strictly Mullvad.
https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/mullvad-browser/
Day of the Cope said:
To Mullvad's credit, they are the only VPN I know of that lets you pay with cash.
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IVPN also offers a cash payment option. They also offer multihop and SOCKS5 proxies like Mullvad.
 
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HootersMcBoobies said:
I don't really care about the internal political situation of a project so long as it works. I've heard people mention Mullvad before, but call me skeptical about a browser made as an advert for a VPN company.

Most people don't even understand that VPNs are just a proxy to change your point of presence. The only VPN you can trust is the one you run yourself (Dante or Tinyproxy on a hosted VM plus the FoxyProxy plugin). Even then, AWS/DigitalOcean/Vultr can still be spying on your VM. They're less likely to than a dedicated VPN provider who since people are specifically using them for obfuscating their traffic.

I use this Spyware Watchdog catalog someone made on Neocities: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/

Librewolf still contacts some Mozilla services for push notifications and checking if you have Internet, but overall it's phoning home is way lower than Brave. I've also heard good things about IceCat and it seems to be good about not phoning home, but I haven't tried it personally.
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I see. That's good to know if phones home less than brave. You are correct about VPN's but most people don't know that. It's arguably the same as cloud services. You and I both know that the cloud really is just someone else's computer but to most people it's magic and these companies know this. Also thumbs up for the neocities link. will be perusing through this.
 
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