Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Pаzuzu]

The whole UK and France wanting to send their forces into Ukraine to fight Russia confuses me.
If they go ahead and do this I have a few ideas for outcomes:
1. They send in a large "advisor" force (apart from the ones there already). These advisors are there to help "advise", but they go into combat and eventually get withered out (fighting is similar to trench warfare with drones and such, against an experienced and combat hardened force backed by a large country, not a bunch of rag tag sandniggers - who BTFO'd them too). They might bitch and moan about article 5 meme, but since they're advisors... well it's not technically war or whatever.
2. They send in troops to join the war effort. The troops get wiped out faster, probably due to them going into action sooner (perhaps some refuse and/or go AWOL); they'd probably scream about article 5, but I doubt The USA would want to get involved under The Trump admin (apart from some rouge glowies).
3. They continue to bitch and moan (hopefully this outcome, as it's not sacrificing more of your men for the meatgrinder).

The only dangerous outcome I'm seeing is if they somehow provoke Russia to strike their territory, shit like this can escalate real quick.

 

[Cuckoman]

One thing that I keep thinking of is the conditions for them to do a false flag attack to avoid peace are pretty strong right now.

Why would they need to do a false flag?
I think it is perfectly sufficient to just go out and publicly state that you refuse to do any kind of negotiations with the enemy.
I see no scenario where that is not sufficient.

 

[Susanna]

He also called himself a time traveler, pretending to be Russian Emperor Nicholas II. Sounds like an attempt at an insanity plea. It didn't work.

He’s lucky, then. Involuntary commitment to a Russian closed psychiatric care facility is not a fate I would wish on my worst enemy. It’s basically solitary confinement for decades, with five minute breaks to be fed antipsychotics every now and then.

 

[Fapcop]

Interesting…



Apparently Trump is shopping around for a replacement.

The only problem is that political opposition has been crushed in Ukraine the past couple of years, and the only politicians with a major profile, and contacts in the West, are either old, corrupt, worn failures like Petroshenko or Timoshenko, or extremely hostile to Russia like Petroshenko and Zaluzhny. (Who is not included in the talks. Probably because he’s a British tool, lol!)

(Zelensky’s own party isn’t a real party but just an oligarch funded front.)

The only figure I see being agreeable to both parties, are some of the old hands from the Party of Regions that fled Ukraine. Install one of those as a placeholder for a year or two until there are free elections, and we are good to go.


Hohol-logic on full display: “Ackshually, America OWES US money!”



You see, the value of the Nuclear weapons that were never Ukrainian to begin with, was trillions of dollars! So America is merely paying back what they owe Ukraine!

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Why would they need to do a false flag?
I think it is perfectly sufficient to just go out and publicly state that you refuse to do any kind of negotiations with the enemy.
I see no scenario where that is not sufficient.

Despite all of Zelensky's flip-flopping and antics, he staunchly proclaims that it is Russia who refuses to negotiate (i. e. accept the terms of his true and honest peace deal aka unconditional surrender). He will never admit Ukraine is the non-compliant side, public evidence to the contrary be damned.

Considering that journalists keep asking Trump why he is putting pressure on Ukraine and not Russia, this strategy is working.

The only figure I see being agreeable to both parties, are some of the old hands from the Party of Regions that fled Ukraine. Install one of those as a placeholder for a year or two until there are free elections, and we are good to go.

Putin is a master of 5D underwater chess and has a Medvedchuk up his sleeve, lol. Remember him trading the man for a bunch of nazis from under Azovsteel much to the dismay of many Russians condemning this decision?

 

[Procopius]

According to investigators the British citizen illegally crossed the Russian border in November last year as part of an "armed formation" and entered the territory of the Kursk region where members of the formation allegedly "committed criminal acts against the civilian population."

Even RT has no more details, although at least they explain why:

Anderson invaded Russia’s territory together with Ukrainian forces last November and “committed crimes against the civilian population” in Kursk Region, the committee said. Officials have not provided any further details on the specifics of the charges.

Anderson is expected to serve his first five years in prison and the remainder in a maximum-security penal colony.

He previously claimed that Ukrainian commanders had forced him to enter Russia, adding that they had taken away his identification papers and cell phone. He also stated that he had served in the UK military as a signals operator between 2019 and 2023 before deciding to join Kiev’s foreign legion. According to Anderson, once he arrived in the country, he was mainly involved in training local military personnel.

https://www.rt.com/russia/613768-russia-jails-british-mercenary-ukraine/

One of the legendary F-16s has finally been seen in action. Well action in the Ukrainian sense, so making another propaganda video

Whether this really was filmed in Ukraine is another question. The planes they've got spend the majority of their time in Poland.

What will be their fate? Shot down, or flogged off to some rando with deep pockets

 

[Cuckoman]

What will be their fate? Shot down, or flogged off to some rando with deep pockets

A shame that Hamas are so broke. It would be super funny if they would launch their own air-force completely consisting of F-16s.

 

[オプセック]

The dude is continuously juggling between pissing off internal foes that could have him assassinated and external foes that could have him assassinated based on whatever he thinks will help him in that moment

Clearly he is playing Russian roulette

That's what I was on about earlier like some others, he could've stepped the fuck down so many fucking times!

Honestly, I even think he could've secretly told the trumpster that they wanna kill him and they would've worked something out, because they really seem to want HIM to be the one surrendering to theirs and russia's conditions, because of his public image.
It looks like he really just is a power tripping cokehead.

He can't stop riding that dragon, he's an absolute subhuman piece of trash, not because I hate hohols or anything, but because he's a bad leader, gambling lives away like hitler and hiro hito did and for NO fucking reason, not even for face, just for his need to gamble - for that continuous, tense back and forth between high and low.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

You see, the value of the Nuclear weapons that were never Ukrainian to begin with, was trillions of dollars! So America is merely paying back what they owe Ukraine!

If they try that on Trump after all the shit Z-man has pulled, he might just return the nukes warhead-first.

 

[Battlecruiser3000ad]

I've got three predictions of how it will go down.
1: Zelensky is abducted by Ultranationalists (AZOV, or something similar) and is deemed a traitor, then executed in some gross, dimly lit basement, where as then the footage is released.

Locked in the Square Hut

 

[Meth Until Death]

yes it's very funny to use my administrative privilege to shit up containment threads i myself set up, fuckhead

Lmao, you already do do that and you should keep doing it

 

[The giant penis of doom]

It's really shocking people refer to him as a great leader when he clearly has no tact.

"I DON'T NEED A RIDE I NEED AMMO" remember that PR stunt? I can see the consultants brainstorming that out in some faggy French villa. And the greenscreen footage of Z-man bravely staying in Ukraine. It's a built up psyop entirely for the plebs' consumption. I don't think any leader thinks Z-man is a great leader. Maybe Kaja Kallas, but she is dumber than a box of goatshit.

He would need to ban himself from the thread after.

Would @Useful_Mistake feel awkward or glee when pressing the threadban on Null?

 

[Fapcop]

Average Hoholina:

Was in Germany for two years, but fled to China because under threat of… (Gasp!) Work.

Spent two days in China before it was made clear to her that she needed to earn her pay.

Her quest to find a place that’ll pay her money for being a Ukrainian “refugee” continues.

 

[01169]

She must've had bad luck with her clerk at the local bureau of gibs. Having to work is usually not a thing in Germany. At least not if you're a foreigner, especially Ukies.

Also good luck with that in CHINA of all places.

 

[Tub of Absinthe]

Was in Germany for two years, but fled to China

First off, failing to get gibs in GERMANY as a UKRAINIAN REFUGEE is already an incredible feat. But going to CHINA of all places as your next move? What was the thought process here, if there even was one?

 

[kuuu]

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[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

She must've had bad luck with her clerk at the local bureau of gibs

At some point the gibs have to run out, once they've finished their Integrationskurs and maybe their Deutschkurs für Beruf they've got to either shit or get off the pot. The Arbeitsamt will start insisting you either find a job yourself or they'll start sending you to minimum wage temp jobs. I hope, anyway.

My guess is she was too much of a lazy nigger retard to actually attend any of the mandatory Deutschkurs shit and eventually someone at the Jobcentre just got tired of their shit and denied them further gibsmedats.

The mindset displayed in the video is incredible though, "I haven't worked for 2 years and I'm not gonna start anytime soon, just gotta find a new paypig government program to support me"

Fuck off and die, whore.

 

[Sho'nuff]

You see, the value of the Nuclear weapons that were never Ukrainian to begin with, was trillions of dollars! So America is merely paying back what they owe Ukraine!

I don't think anyone is taking that guy seriously, at least I hope not, but it makes sense that Zelenskyy believes this and it makes his inconsistent behavior make more sense.
Hard reality for Zelenskyy, all the joining NATO talk completely nullifies those disarmament agreements from the early 90s. So nobody owes Ukraine anything for the weapons they returned to Russia, for concessions that neither Ukraine, Russia, or the US/Nato has kept.

 

[Fapcop]

I don't think anyone is taking that guy seriously, at least I hope not, but it makes sense that Zelenskyy believes this and it makes his inconsistent behavior make more sense.
Hard reality for Zelenskyy, all the joining NATO talk completely nullifies those disarmament agreements from the early 90s. So nobody owes Ukraine anything for the weapons they returned to Russia, for concessions that neither Ukraine, Russia, or the US/Nato has kept.

The whole “Ukraine gave up their nukes!” Argument is retarded as f.

Ukraine never had nukes. It wasn’t a country.
The USSR had nukes, some of which were on Ukraines territory.

Those nukes rightfully belonged to the successor state of the USSR, which was… Russia!

 

[IKOL]

Ukraine is so fucked wtf. I hope by the end of this Zelenskyy is dead so he can't profit off all the billions he inured into off-shore manions and bank accounts.

Oh hello there da slobberbuttermutt, how are our Serbian brothers from another mother's doin'.

Yeah well it's either he'll set up his fake death or will get droneblasted by his own military or goyzovites.