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Star Trek has:

- A world order
- No money, nobody owns anything
- They eat the bugs light
- Spock is literally an “I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE” bugman
- TOS had men wearing skirts in the first episodes, it also had that faggot Takei
- TNG had some episodes that basically touched on transgenderism and homosexuality, though nothing like today’s madness
- Both series had little moments, like occasionally showing a woman or a minority in a position of power just to show how much equality had progressed
- There were episodes where terraforming is a metaphor for global warming


I’m joking that Star Trek is literally globohomo but it was very progressive for its time. Though it came from a more genuine, optimistic view of the future, not to sell you to a pod.

Even the most staunch liberals today are not optimistic about the future because they know deep down that their ideology just keeps making things worse.
With that, I'd say Star Trek is an idealized view of the future but other shit from then to now has happened to regress us in life.
 
It technically did but not for the reasons historically and economically illiterate progressives think.

The U.S had an unprecedented 30 year period of economic supremacy after WWII because virtually every other first world nation had been bombed back to the stone age.

It was a lack of viable economic competitors and not war = good economy.
And the lifting of several (but not all unfortunately) FDR era regulations and restrictions.
 
With that, I'd say Star Trek is an idealized view of the future but other shit from then to now has happened to regress us in life.
The Federation was formed only after an apocalyptic nuclear world war that killed off like 80% of humanity.

Progressive Star Trek fans always leave that part out for some reason when they sperg about how Star Trek is an ideal socialist setting.
 
With that, I'd say Star Trek is an idealized view of the future but other shit from then to now has happened to regress us in life.
I don't even think it's "regression" from the societal changes between the 60s and now. I think it's because Star Trek portrayed a world where energy scarcity, food scarcity, and materials scarcity, didn't exist/were magically handwaved away with devices that could make all these things instantly. Most conflicts come from one or several of those things being disputed, but to build Star-Trek level replicators isn't possible (that we know of). Hence a Star-Trek-like resolution of human problems isn't going to happen because we can't make the tech they used to sidestep said problems.
 
Also, the apology was an attempt to play it off as an accident when it was clearly a failed false flag intended to convince America to go to war against Arabs on behalf of Israel.
Israel was winning the war at that point, why would they want America to get involved? Retards like you know nothing of the greater context of the war

You think "THIRD-WORLD" regimes are subverting America?
I laid out my case with my posts pointing out how Qatar paid out billions to American universities to teach their narrative and how Tucker Carlson did a complete 180 shilling for foreign regimes after getting funding from Omeed Malik.

AIPAC spends hundreds of millions every election to prevent anti-Israel candidates from winning elections, as well as having literal lobbyists in Congress telling members what policies to suppor
retard doesnt understand what lobbying is or how AIPAC is less influential than Christian Zionists while ignoring actual cases of corruption like when the Egyptians and Qataris bribed senator Menendez. AIPAC also doesnt spend hundreds of millions lol

Jewish university activists spent decades circulating anti-white propaganda and are only backpedaling because brown people see Jews as white.
these university activists were anti israel to begin with

also the Epstein blackmail list literally existed to blackmail American politicians, media figures, and celebrities, into supporting Jewish interests
Name a Jewish interest Epstein wanted to push.

You are shilling for a Jewish regime that subverts America to fight all its own wars
Name a war that America fought for Israel. Iraq was not a war that America fought for Israel because Israel advised the US not to go through with it.
 
I don't even think it's "regression" from the societal changes between the 60s and now.
Well, you'd think fifty, sixty years from then, we'd be making several scientific breakthroughs in modern society especially with the invention of the Internet. Now, we have third world countries, inflations, people beating each other up and transitioning children.
 
Israel was winning the war at that point, why would they want America to get involved? Retards like you know nothing of the greater context of the war
Perhaps because they had object permanence, and knew their enemies weren't going to instantly vanish even if Israel "won"? As evidenced by the 1973 war a few years later?

I laid out my case with my posts pointing out how Qatar paid out billions to American universities to teach their narrative and how Tucker Carlson did a complete 180 shilling for foreign regimes after getting funding from Omeed Malik.
And Israel paid nothing/did nothing to teach their own narrative in universities?

Tucker is a media figure, not a politician- you are telling me zero politicians were paid/blackmailed to support pro-Israel policies?

This is why I called you a hypocrite- even if you are correct here, you are still ignoring that Israel has done a much greater level of interference/subversion for a much longer period of time.

retard doesnt understand what lobbying is
It is a form of advocating the interests of a particular group to politicians. Often campaign funding is involved, whether explicit or implicit.
or how AIPAC is less influential than Christian Zionists
>Jews by themselves are less influential than people paid/bribed/brainwashed to support Jews
You don't say......
while ignoring actual cases of corruption like when the Egyptians and Qataris bribed senator Menendez. AIPAC also doesnt spend hundreds of millions lol
>Instances of non-Israeli corruption instantly causes all the instances of Israeli corruption to vanish

Also


Lobbying group the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) was by far the largest PAC contributor to members of Congress and federal candidates in the 2023-2024 election cycle

AIPAC’s PAC and UDP spent nearly $126.9 million combined during the 2023-2024 election cycle, according to the FEC. This includes more than $55.2 million in donations given to federal candidates—at least $45.2 million of which went to the campaigns of members of the new 119th U.S. Congress, Sludge identified.
 
@Catch The Rainbow youve won me over over the years, but I believe the direct question was with regards to accepting no communication and gunning life rafts. Answer that.

So far as Israel winning the war and why try to get America more invovled, don't ask us to explain the machinations of the Israeli victim hood complex mind, it would be like explaining why rending one's own clothes makes any fucking sense.
 
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It technically did but not for the reasons historically and economically illiterate progressives think.

The U.S had an unprecedented 30 year period of economic supremacy after WWII because virtually every other first world nation had been bombed back to the stone age.

It was a lack of viable economic competitors and not war = good economy.
War economies tend to be boom&bust. It's great for a while because it ramps up product and stimulates growth. The problem is eventually the bills come due, you may not have had a good return of investment, and all the able bodied men tend to be dead, crippled or burnt out.

Then women fill the void in the workforce, and that leads to corporations raising prices to match a dual-income household. With both parties often working menial slave-wage jobs, it puts pressure on relationships and parenting, and can lead to the destruction of the nuclear family.
 
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Tucker Carlson is now shilling for Iran and Qatar:


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>claims Iran has killed no Americans on American soil
>ignores the hundreds of Americans killed through Iran sponsored proxies like Hamas/Hezbollah in Lebanon/Israel.

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Guess Qatar decided to make it rain for Tucker
It's almost like Tucker is a grifting moron who's entire worldview can be summed up as "who/whatever the establishment hate I shall like."
 
Perhaps because they had object permanence, and knew their enemies weren't going to instantly vanish even if Israel "won"? As evidenced by the 1973 war a few years later?
So then why would they immediately apologize and admit guilt instead of leaving it up in the air?

And Israel paid nothing/did nothing to teach their own narrative in universities?
When was a pro Israel narrative ever taught in a university? The universities have been compromised by far leftists who hate israel since the 60s

>Jews by themselves are less influential than people paid/bribed/brainwashed to support Jews
You don't say......
Christian Zionists are now paid? Since when lmao

>Instances of non-Israeli corruption instantly causes all the instances of Israeli corruption to vanish
point out a case of pro israeli corruption. Legal lobbying is not corruption.

full article is behind paywall

opensecrets says AIPAC spent 51 m. 40m of that were individual donations through AIPAC, another 3 million were from the PAC itself.


Also getting a donation from AIPAC doesn't equal funding the candidate. Usually it's a fraction of the candidates actual funding total.
 
The Federation was formed only after an apocalyptic nuclear world war that killed off like 80% of humanity.

Progressive Star Trek fans always leave that part out for some reason when they sperg about how Star Trek is an ideal socialist setting.
Its also worth noting that according to several books in the setting, Replicator food never really tastes quite right. Very close, but never exact. And so things like homemade wine, proper steaks, just regular food you cook is in fact still preferred and there are markets for them.

The Star Trek society isn't socialist, its post-scarcity. Technology has advanced to the point that all basic needs can be cared for reliably, egalitarianism reigns supreme, and man's pursuits have expanded beyond the need to compete for resources -for the purpose of survival-. When it comes to politics, the Federation is a tad on the authoritarian side though also only really is so for Earth itself. It is very hands off for human colonies, allowing them to mostly govern as they see fit so long as they obey a basic charter of human rights. Meaning one always has the option of leaving for less authoritarian (or more) lands if one wishes while still benefitting from the post-scarcity society of Earth.

Commerce in the setting is actually fascinating and the only one to go into it is ironically one of the more disliked series in the form of Enterprise.
 
I hope they keep this new retard out there more and more too. Is she really going to be the face of their shit party for awhile?

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Never thought I'd see the day they'd have karens going on about local school rights. Jesus.
That is so catastrophically stupid. It's sports, the different local communities have to interact in sports games which is the entire fucking reason it's an issue that needs a higher authority to resolve it.
 
Hard disagree, if a politician is taking money to go directly against the will of their constituents by monied lobbyists, that's corruption, see taxation without representation and extrapolate.
Where's the evidence that they're going against the will of their constituents? Americans overwhelmingly support Israel, especially Republicans. The only Republican that I know that "goes against the will of their constituents" is Massie who refuses to meet Jewish constituents like Rabbi Shlomo Litvin who heads the Kentucky Jewish Council. Massie refuses to meet him and accuses him of being an agent for a foreign country.
 
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