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Still haven't had anyone explain to me why so many people aren't working when they're at work. Personally I think nothing should be spoilered for titties and if you think its a poster's fault for not spoilering when you get fired/in trouble you deserve to starve.
There is such a thing as casual browsing or, like me, I've got a half dozen screens open and one of them has whatever I choose to view at that time. Maybe it's the news. Maybe it's something on youtube. Maybe it's the Orchards. Sure it might be an hour before I get to it but I'm the guy in charge of the network. You can't stop me from sneeding if I want to.
 
A podcast of women who are ALT Ambassadors and adjacent to Scamran have interviewed Anna.
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Here is one of their podcasts with Scamran.
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A podcast called LIPEDEMA MAMAS. Lunacy. I added it to my queue to listen tomorrow.

Side note, can we decide once and for all how to spell this shit? Is it lipidema for lipid? Lipedema for edema? Lipodema like liposuction?
Crossposting for the following:
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Which leads us to:
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Which gives us:
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Of the two, Shawn's isn't that obvious:


Ashley, though, is an excellent example of what lipedema looks like:


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Both these women also have really nice-looking houses. It makes me think the podcast is their hobby, like when the wives of rich men run businesses that don't need to turn a profit.
 
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Another Jaebae court update:

On the 11th they ordered her to some kind of inpatient mental health situation to “restore competency” aka “give her some pills so she chills out and we can sit her in a defendant’s chair.“

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On the 14th, Use of Force was authorized to be used against her. I don’t know if this means they retroactively approved of use of force, or if this is something new, given her inpatient order.

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And then of course her hearing on the 19th was pushed back to MAY FOURTEENTH, which is two months from today. Ugh. What a long wait.

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And she’s still listed as “in custody.” I wonder if she is being held in a mental health facility either attached to or partnered with the jail, given the inpatient order and the fact that her housing facility is listed as BCCD.

How many bridges did she have to burn to be left to rot in jail?
 
Another Jaebae court update:

On the 11th they ordered her to some kind of inpatient mental health situation to “restore competency” aka “give her some pills so she chills out and we can sit her in a defendant’s chair.“

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On the 14th, Use of Force was authorized to be used against her. I don’t know if this means they retroactively approved of use of force, or if this is something new, given her inpatient order.

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And then of course her hearing on the 19th was pushed back to MAY FOURTEENTH, which is two months from today. Ugh. What a long wait.

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And she’s still listed as “in custody.” I wonder if she is being held in a mental health facility either attached to or partnered with the jail, given the inpatient order and the fact that her housing facility is listed as BCCD.

How many bridges did she have to burn to be left to rot in jail?
I can guarantee Jaelynn's at Eastern State Hospital, a psych facility; that's what the /ESH in the comments for her review hearing dates means. Her housing facility is probably still listed as BCCD because that's who currently has her in custody, despite her temporary stay at ESH.

What amazes me is that she wasn't able to hold her shit together, act like a reasonably sane human being, and thus avoid a competency evaluation in the first place. She fucked up badly by assaulting either a health care worker or a cop, so was already in big trouble, and really, the only thing that might have helped her was to be a compliant, cooperative model inmate. BUT NO. Evidently, Jaelynn only made things worse for herself by continuing to be such a crazy, uncooperative bitch she warranted a competency eval.

The Use of Force order allows her to be kept on an involuntarily psych hold for up to five days.
 
What amazes me is that she wasn't able to hold her shit together, act like a reasonably sane human being, and thus avoid a competency evaluation in the first place.
Really? If anything I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

She's totally bought into this idea that she's not the problem. So when something happens and people tell her to sit down and shut up she can't handle it.
 
Really? If anything I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

She's totally bought into this idea that she's not the problem. So when something happens and people tell her to sit down and shut up she can't handle it.

We’ve long been talking about fatness as a consequence of overconsumption, and certainly it is the most obvious, but the biggest issue I’ve been noticing these days is the inherent narcissism of obesity. I used to know a woman who was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder as a teenager, and instead of outgrowing it, she became an alcoholic and her BPD became NPD as well. The BPD laid down the disordered framework for NPD, but without the alcoholism, I think she could have been just a regular borderline who feels enough empathy to get mad at herself for being a bitch to others and slices up her arms. Fine. But addiction changes things. An addict’s need to consume their preferred drug (or behavior, ie gambling) will change them in ways that limit their ability to remain fully human (and yes, I consider empathy to be The Thing that makes one “fully” human, but it’s more of a rhetorical device).

Have you ever met anyone seriously addicted, as in willing to rob a bank or suck a dick, for magic mushrooms or normal, leaf-based marijuana? Before cannabis was largely legalized in the states and they started inventing all these weird concentrates (wax, shatter, whatever they call it, I don’t know because I don’t touch it), and putting shroom bits in chocolate bars, was anyone going to extremes for these substances? Shroom-picking in a thunderstorm is about the riskiest story I ever heard from before the year 2015, and every Swede I’ve ever known is doing this for the sake of chanterelles, so it’s not jumping out to me as particularly dangerous.

I think the addictive potential of sugar is far underrated. I think we would all agree that crack cocaine is one of the most addictive substances out there (and I know they’re coming out with new shit every day, and frankly that makes my point for me), but what is crack, really? Crack is a form of very refined cocaine powder. What is cocaine? It is a very refined form of the coca leaf, which you could pluck from a bush and stick in your mouth and chew and get a little bitty buzz from, like you would from nicotine or caffeine (and of course don’t forget that even in only slightly-processed plant form, tobacco leaves and coffee beans can still addict a human). Now, take a bunch of those leaves, cook em up, add some kind of catalyst, stir it up, grind it up, dry it out, whatever, and now you have cocaine. Plenty of people will destroy their lives for cocaine. Refine it even more, and you’ve got crack, which has the power to destroy entire communities, not just individual lives.

Obviously, we need food to survive and I’m sure history is full of examples of humans committing murder over access to food, but in the modern American landscape, where we have entire, large buildings full of foodstuffs that the average person can just walk into (the doors even open themselves!), where most people can afford basic groceries, or if they can’t, they can get on food stamps, or go to a food bank, or show up at a church, do we have an issue with people robbing banks for a single apple? Even a bag of apples meant to last a week—have you ever known anyone to go to extreme lengths to get their hands on fruit? I have not. But take that apple and refine it until it’s juice. Have you ever seen a kid flip out over a juice box? I have. Put that apple juice in a pot and boil it until most of the liquid is gone and all you have are syrup or even just the sugar crystals itself. Now you have something people will consume despite the detriment to themselves. Let’s pretend I started this example with an ear of corn (I didn’t because corn is harder to consume), and you’ve got corn syrup. Refine it and fuck it up again to get high fructose corn syrup, and you have the potential to destroy entire societies.

Jaebae is acting like an absolute fucking crackhead because her drug of choice is the highly-processed, refined sugar and oils of the standard American diet, and they are as far removed from real food as crack cocaine is from the humble coca leaf, but with a potential for devastation that far exceeds that of crack cocaine, but she has no fucking clue, because she and LindA fucking Bacon and everyone else in the HAES movement have gaslit themselves and others into thinking “there are no bad foods.” Because weight affects physical attractiveness and we don’t want anyone to feel bad or ugly, as a society we’ve started to back off on judging people for being fat, but then the fatties started taking over the narrative in order to support their addictions, and, as a society, we have let them out of fear of offense (not us on the farms, obviously).

Linda Bacon’s whole reason for transing herself was because her name means “pretty” and she’s obviously ugly, so I’m fairly well convinced that transition (for women) and Fat activism are mostly about feeling ugly and not being willing to become more attractive (or specifically avoiding attractiveness, but this is a whole tangent we could go down). Weight loss is not the only way to be more attractive, proper etiquette and posture will do wonders on their own. But we’ve stopped telling people that it’s important to want to be more attractive, and FAs (and TRAs but that’s another thread) have let themselves slip not just in their looks, but in their behaviors as well. “If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best,” type of thinking has taken over.

JaeBae, being a ringleader of this shit and an archetype for the mindset, is going to be one of the worst examples of this kind of thinking, and she is showing the world where this kind of thinking gets a person—the fucking loony bin, until you’re deemed competent to stay in regular fucking jail. If someone had bailed her out immediately, her public defender would probably still want the chance to say Jaelynn was in some kind of mental crisis that excused the behavior that got her arrested, but she would be out and about, and visiting a therapist in an office park somewhere, not locked in a single-occupancy room in the deepest darkest corner of the mental hospital, getting shot up with enough tranquilizers to take down a hippo.

TLDR we are seeing crackhead behavior from JaeBae because her drug of choice is just as strong, if not stronger than crack cocaine, but without the societal stigma of crack to warn her that her behavior isn’t acceptable within society.
 
I can't reply to the prior message, but Jaebae's being jailed means she has been forcibly detoxed from sugar and highly-palatable ultra-processed foods cold turkey. I'm not sure what kind of food the Benton County jail serves, but even if it's highly-processed, it's not going to be the palatable types of food she's used to binge eating on. It's hot dogs and instant potatoes, not snack cakes and Taco Bell.

Ultra-processed foods have the same addictive qualities as cocaine and heroin. There are plenty of studies out there to read about it. She probably went crazy because of the withdrawal symptoms. Obviously she's already crazy, but when you add withdrawal on top of that, it likely made her more agitated and violent out of desperation for the food she craves.
 
Whatever they’re feeding her, yeah; it won’t be her choice and there won’t nearly be enough for her.

About no updates from her… she wouldn’t have access to her phone in either jail or a mental facility, right?

Think positive, JaeBae! You can update your fat manifesto to include pushing for inclusive features in jails and prisons!
 
Staying in a state mental hospital on a criminal system hold means she's getting the opposite of special treatment. She's just another crackhead to them (but fatter).

She's not used to being told no, even from something as simple as free wheelchair pushing services at an airport. Now she's also being ignored. Totally ignored. The staff at a public looney bin ignores loonies all day, everyday.
 
Of course anyone willing to plan and execute all the ridiculous shenanigans she’s been pulling off in public clearly has an extra entitlement chromosome swimming around in her DNA pool. That and no off button for embarrassment and cringe. Would I be first in line to hear from the other patients/cell mates and medical/guard staff regarding the last 2 weeks with our diva? Take all my money, please. There’s no one of the scale of this rhinoceros.
 
I can't reply to the prior message, but Jaebae's being jailed means she has been forcibly detoxed from sugar and highly-palatable ultra-processed foods cold turkey. I'm not sure what kind of food the Benton County jail serves, but even if it's highly-processed, it's not going to be the palatable types of food she's used to binge eating on. It's hot dogs and instant potatoes, not snack cakes and Taco Bell.

Ultra-processed foods have the same addictive qualities as cocaine and heroin. There are plenty of studies out there to read about it. She probably went crazy because of the withdrawal symptoms. Obviously she's already crazy, but when you add withdrawal on top of that, it likely made her more agitated and violent out of desperation for the food she craves.
Have a sperggy powerlevel.

It really is understated how bad it is.
In my experience, it seems to take caffeine users about a month to ween off moderately heavy use, so like 2 to 3 sodas a day, or 5 cups of coffee. Symptoms of their withdrawls are typically migraines, fucked up sleep schedule, and an energy crash with a very slow build back.
Sugar? Fuck.
For those that aren't American, our white bread is full of sugar. A slice of bread is unironically 200 calories. Without the butter, jellies, cheeses, etc, plain bread, 200.
Every single pastry breading, like flakey biscuits, I think euros call them scones but they're a bit different than that, have sugar.
Our cream cheeses have sugar, our juices have extra refined fructose corn syrup, we have all this excess sugar because we have more corn than we know what to fucking do with and retards want free govt money by threatening to grow MORE because the govt will buy you out to stop you.
It was HARD finding stuff with less sugar. Some juices had more sugar than fucking soda, and fruit is naturally sugary anyway.
Here's what happens if you cut cold turkey from a heavily sugarfied diet-
-bloating
-worsening period cramps
-horrific cravings that can last weeks
-diarrea
-vomiting from migraines
-migraines
-cold sweats
-mood swings because your dopamine receptors are fucked
-literal lowered fucking immune response because of how badly your body is reacting.
Going literally no sugar, on anything, took MONTHS, and I'm STILL not all there. Having a soda with a dinner or something will completely set you back all over again.
I have never, in my life, experienced a more powerful craving than sugar, holy shit.
And it's everywhere.
I literally had to start putting honey in bread I made to help with cravings, even on fish.
Oh and just to clear things up- SOMEHOW, I'm not fat.
Normal blood pressure, the worst of my sugar cravings were as a teen where I was actually pretty fucking skinny. I didn't eat a lot when I was younger, and was hopelessly addicted. Now imagine a fucking deathfat trying to cut it out. They already have 0 fucking self control.
 
JaeBae is lucky that she went back to Washington to get involved in the court system. Here in California, we often kick you out to the streets with a paper warrant at midnight . You get a bag for your stuff and rain or shine, it’s out the door. You crazy? Join the hundreds of other folks shoplifting a tent at Walmart to set yourself up down by the flood channel .
 
JaeBae is lucky that she went back to Washington to get involved in the court system. Here in California, we often kick you out to the streets with a paper warrant at midnight . You get a bag for your stuff and rain or shine, it’s out the door. You crazy? Join the hundreds of other folks shoplifting a tent at Walmart to set yourself up down by the flood channel .
If she was in King County/Seattle, that's exactly what would have happened to her. But instead she's way out east, in a red county (60% voted for Trump), where they still do things differently.
 
Sugar? Fuck.
For those that aren't American
I really appreciate your long and detailed response and I completely agree- every symptom you mentioned happened to me too. Sadly, super processed foods with HFCS are becoming more common in Europe as well. I can’t even find a normal carton of grapefruit juice anymore- it’s either an overpriced BIO organic glass bottle or a 'nectar' which is just our fancy way of labeling watered down juice with added HFCS
I dabbled in some not-so-legal stuff back in the day and honestly- no withdrawal was worse than sugar withdrawal
 
I learned about Jae Bae fairly recently from reaction channels. She apparently messaged this guy to get him to appear in a documentary about her, basically as one of her detractors.
He's mostly going over her psych hold. But he also talks about how by the time he responded to her message, she had blocked him and then got herself arrested.
 
I learned about Jae Bae fairly recently from reaction channels. She apparently messaged this guy to get him to appear in a documentary about her, basically as one of her detractors.
He's mostly going over her psych hold. But he also talks about how by the time he responded to her message, she had blocked him and then got herself arrested.
Anyone that knows: why do some body-positive women have a nose like Jae Bae or Virgie Tovar? It reminds me a bit of rhinophyma but I couldn't find any information on what might cause it.
 
Anyone that knows: why do some body-positive women have a nose like Jae Bae or Virgie Tovar? It reminds me a bit of rhinophyma but I couldn't find any information on what might cause it.
I actually dove into this before for another cow. Some believe rhinophyma is caused by rosacea, especially since you can’t have Rhinop without rosacea. People that are obese have a higher risk for rosacea, particularly women. So it could be a form of rhinop a la rosacea a la FAT


(oldish article but can’t be arsed to do more research again right now)
 
Anyone that knows: why do some body-positive women have a nose like Jae Bae or Virgie Tovar? It reminds me a bit of rhinophyma but I couldn't find any information on what might cause it.
I am not any type of medical fag, but I think they just have flatter noses that appear more deformed in a giant fat face.
 
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